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[Brad]

Hey Rob,

I am not necessarily saying you're wrong but rather that you are at the wrong place to try and prove your case, so hence my question along the lines of 'why bother?' I'm sure you're well qualified but the point of doing that here is what I don't understand ...

There have been others before you that tried the same, even as far as going into similar examples with dice as you just did. Just search the posts and you'll find the ensuing discussions. I don't really want to get into that.

Maybe I am nearing the end of my search for an advantage and realizing that it's not there, or maybe I'm just running out of fresh ideas of what to try next ... but that's not going to stop me from reading what others think. So call me a lotto-optimist, interested in the approaches others take.

Having said all that, reading that lotto draws are totally random is no fun, hehe. But, you haven't disturbed me enough to reach for a hit of BC's best to calm my nerves nor to enhance my delusions about four corners of Mother Earth, LOL.

And yes, I was referring to non-perfect apparatus used for draws, as you put it, possibly resulting in a bias. I don't think that lotto corps are intentionally manipulating the draw results, but even they must be aware that biases can exist or why else would they periodically change ball-sets? Could it be to try and negate any possible chance that they may be spotted and exploited by observant lotto-players, how ever infinitesimal they may be?

 

[red0412303609]

heres a new theory

why dont we guys get a computer program up an running that will hold the entire world results of all lotto games- I think theres 187 at the moment-and enter into this comp program all the winning combinations- there must be at least 2 million of them- then we can play the remaining 8 or so million and win it every week--
I would kinda like to guess that no identical 6 number winning combos have ever been drawn????
so what say u guys- can this be done??????

 

[Rob50]

Hello Brad

I must say I very much appreciate your willingness to politely answer to an issue that as you say “often it will lead to digs and barbs which may or may not be amusing”. So, thanks a lot for that. I also agree with the fact that most likely in this case I am “at the wrong place to try and prove my case”, but again I also am very interested in knowing “what others think” and although I am not a lotto-optimist in the sense that you use it, I still hope that Lady Luck might blink one of her blue eyes for me. Professionally, I also am very “interested in the approaches others take”, because this allows me to know the different biases the truth can endure.

I think that no matter how much struggle and care the lotto corporations put into keeping the lotteries as fair as possible (meaning, as random as possible, meaning as unpredictable as possible) they can’t avoid spontaneous, uncontrollable biases. But:
1- They don’t care about whether possible chances can be spotted and exploited by “observant lotto-players”, because they take their share no matter whether who wins is a dumb-lucker, or a smart observant.
2- They don’t like the idea of some statistics university professor publishing papers demonstrating that the lottery is not fair, because he could spot an anomalous statistical behavior in the lottery draws.

All the best and good luck!

Rob

 

[luckystrike]

HAS ANYONE EVER TRIED PUTTING 49 #'S INTO A HAT..AND PULLING 7 #'S OUT AT A TIME....10 x's in a row.....???????

THERE LIES YOUR ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THAT SOME PEOPLE ASK....

 

[nipsirc]

Re: heres a new theory

Yes. already done that !

why dont we guys get a computer program up an running that will hold the entire world results of all lotto games- I think theres 187 at the moment-and enter into this comp program all the winning combinations- there must be at least 2 million of them- then we can play the remaining 8 or so million and win it every week--
I would kinda like to guess that no identical 6 number winning combos have ever been drawn????
so what say u guys- can this be done??????

 

[lottohotmail]

I am lurker but this board s not very ACTIVE AS it use to be .. why

 

[mirage]

I am lurker but this board s not very ACTIVE AS it use to be .. why

Hello fellow lurker,

I haven't had a chance to visit the board much in the past several months. And when I do, since I'm not often here these days, I just lurk. I think I tend to be too opinionated and not enuf informed anyway.

If you miss the activity then start posting. You are more likely to get a response if you ask an interesting, specific question.

If you've been watching the board, a bunch of ppl who were the most active got their noses out of joint, etc. and left. The void left behind made it seem a bit chilly around here so a bunch more ppl left. It's unfortunate because a couple or so of them did make some interesting points or contributed some decent info. Some of the time. The rest were a bit fluffy.

In answer to your question, I dunno- maybe the world has changed or all the questions have been talked out? ppl are not so gung-ho anymore.

 

[lottohotmail]

QUOTE]Originally posted by mirage

If you've been watching the board, a bunch of ppl who were the most active got their noses out of joint, etc. and left. The void left behind made it seem a bit chilly around here so a bunch more ppl left. It's unfortunate because a couple or so of them did make some interesting points or contributed some decent info. Some of the time. The rest were a bit fluffy.

In answer to your question, I dunno- maybe the world has changed or all the questions have been talked out? ppl are not so gung-ho anymore. [/QUOTE]

ok

 

[mirage]

QUOTE]Originally posted by mirage

If you've been watching the board, a bunch of ppl who were the most active got their noses out of joint, etc. and left. The void left behind made it seem a bit chilly around here so a bunch more ppl left. It's unfortunate because a couple or so of them did make some interesting points or contributed some decent info. Some of the time. The rest were a bit fluffy.

In answer to your question, I dunno- maybe the world has changed or all the questions have been talked out? ppl are not so gung-ho anymore.

Are they the ones who gotted banned from here or something.I thought I read somewhere, that they were banned. [/QUOTE]

yes, some were banned-the 1st ones to go. the rest left voluntarily to join the 1st group. LT posted a long a long, well reasoned, strongly felt and strongly stated posting giving his arguments for these measures-it used to be among these threads somewhere. I don't know if LT has deleted it by now-he said he would leave it up for awhile. The board is trying to leave that not very pretty chapter behind and move on. So even though drama and intrigue are colourful, let's try to move on.
P.S. I have "lurked" a couple of times to see how the other group are making out, and if you think this board is quiet, the other one so far has been really dull.
Regarding the out group: without the support of intelligent ideas of broader perspective publicly shared, they have nothing much going for them. From what one can see on the public forum. Again, enuf said.

 

[Rob50]

Just out of curiosity, and I might be wrong, but:

Have you lottohotmail ever been member of this BB under a different name?

You can answer Yes or No, or not answer at all.

Regards

Rob

 

[lottohotmail]

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[pebbles]

Here is my 2 cents about this issue.
I just saw some posts in here and it's been quite a while since I came here...Though I often lurked under other aliases like many many posters here, I was surprise that all the great players that once came here are out, The bests of the bests , I also saw some accusations posted here about a few members. So I went looking for them and I found them , unfortunately for me and probably for many more like myself , I could not enter their site , But It makes me wonder about the accusations of membership stolen because first I know one of them personnally and that person would never have done such a thing as stealing...and if the intention of stealing was in their mind they wouldn't close the door to their site like they do, doesn't make sense!
My feeling is that some people from here joined them on their free will and got banned!
I whish everyone here best of luck because they will miss the great posts from the bests of the bests,
I certainly will!
A simple lotto fan!

 

[luckystrike]

Here is my 2 cents about this issue.
I just saw some posts in here and it's been quite a while since I came here...Though I often lurked under other aliases like many many posters here, I was surprise that all the great players that once came here are out, The bests of the bests , I also saw some accusations posted here about a few members. So I went looking for them and I found them , unfortunately for me and probably for many more like myself , I could not enter their site , But It makes me wonder about the accusations of membership stolen because first I know one of them personnally and that person would never have done such a thing as stealing...and if the intention of stealing was in their mind they wouldn't close the door to their site like they do, doesn't make sense!
My feeling is that some people from here joined them on their free will and got banned!
I whish everyone here best of luck because they will miss the great posts from the bests of the bests,
I certainly will!

I GUESS THE REST OFF US ARE JUST DIRT...

 

[Brad]

Originally posted by luckystrike
<<snip>> I GUESS THE REST OFF US ARE JUST DIRT...

Wouldn't take it too personally because who ever pebbles is (related to primitive Fred Flinstones? ) he/she/it is using the same bait tactics that caused a lot of crap on this BB ... avoiding anyone that starts up along the same lines is probably the best approach ... cuz how long can they carry a torch?

No one is irreplaceable, and if poor pebbles misses a departed member so badly to write a pining post, then it's just a matter of time before "she" leaves in search of the said member (if "she's" telling the truth in the first place that is).

I have managed to not say anything for a long time about it all because enough was said already, rehashing it again does not do anyone any good, IMO ... so nufced

LT's BB will do just fine in the long run. Let's not forget that things are slow here partly because of the summer holidays too ...

 

[luckystrike]

Wouldn't take it too personally because who ever pebbles is (related to primitive Fred Flinstones? ) he/she/it is using the same bait tactics that caused a lot of crap on this BB ... avoiding anyone that starts up along the same lines is probably the best approach ... cuz how long can they carry a torch?

No one is irreplaceable, and if poor pebbles misses a departed member so badly to write a pining post, then it's just a matter of time before "she" leaves in search of the said member (if "she's" telling the truth in the first place that is).

I have managed to not say anything for a long time about it all because enough was said already, rehashing it again does not do anyone any good, IMO ... so nufced

LT's BB will do just fine in the long run. Let's not forget that things are slow here partly because of the summer holidays too ...

WELL SAID...ENUFCED...

 

[Rob50]

Pebbles, why don't you keep your 2 cents in your wallet?

 

[pebbles]

My,My,My...What a welcome I receive here, You miss them more than what I thought!
I miss them too!
I won't post anymore here I'll go away just like they did...And like most lotto fan will do...I'm not interested in Troll talks! And no I'M not one of the fab 4 like you're calling them! Nobody can trust anybody here it seems, I just posted what I knew about the story! And the information is absolutely right!
Strange that summer is used to explain the missing posts!
I don't buy that!

 

[Rob50]

Good idea, pebbles, I am sure you won't be missed. Everybody has the right to have a home, you go where you feel welcome!

 

[Rob50]

By the way, you betray yourself with that "Troll talk".

 

[Rob50]

Why don't you start counting the missed boats?