6 winning numbers in combination 37/36

[taaroa]

Hi,

I scanned millions of groups of drawings and did not succeed to approach 5 missing numbers per group or 37,38,39,40. Sometimes when there was 4 numbers, they were parsed on many lines. I used the random method. So, I think that we cannot go farther without a very powerful computer for analysing all groups. When you use groups of 20 or so, then you get many 6 number missing groups, even 7 number missing groups but there was never more than 4 winning numbers on line. As there were many lines, it was very difficult to know which line to choose. I also tested analysing these groups within less than 100 draws. There was no improvement; the results where worse.


So, for me, this method is useless. It will take too much time to do the job. Hope someone will find the good computer to go farther with this method.


taaroa

 

[GameBelgium]

It was worth a shot Taaroa, thanks for the efforts.

Since lots of Lotto draw have repeating number (i.e. numbers that were drawn in the previous game), I've also tried to eliminate all lines which do not contain one of the numbers drawn in the last drawing. This cuts back the original 100 lines to approx. 60-67 lines. Even with this amount of lines, it's still a hell of a job to analyse the groups of 37!

And, of course, this would only work for drawings were there are repeating numbers (42% of the drawings in Belgium have one repeating number, 17% of the drawings have two repeating numbers).

 

[taaroa]

It was worth a shot Taaroa, thanks for the efforts.

Since lots of Lotto draw have repeating number (i.e. numbers that were drawn in the previous game), I've also tried to eliminate all lines which do not contain one of the numbers drawn in the last drawing. This cuts back the original 100 lines to approx. 60-67 lines. Even with this amount of lines, it's still a hell of a job to analyse the groups of 37!

And, of course, this would only work for drawings were there are repeating numbers (42% of the drawings in Belgium have one repeating number, 17% of the drawings have two repeating numbers).

Hi GameBelgium,

With 100 drawings you have :

3,420,029,547,493,938,143,902,737,600 combinations of 37 drawings.

With 67 drawings you have :

9,989,690,752,182,277,136 combinations of 37 drawings.

It's by far less combinations to analyse. I'll try this method once I have understood it.

taaroa

 

[bloubul]

Hi GameBelgium / taarao

What is the effect of missing draws for analyse... When our lotto stopped on 31/03/2007 there was 655 draws. When it reatarted on 13/10/2007 the draw number was 711 (56 draws further) BTW our lotto is run by a private consortium)

BlouBul

 

[GameBelgium]

Bloubul, do I understand it correctly? There were no drawings between 31.03.2007 and 13.10.2007? No matter what number is given to the drawings, if there were no drawings between those dates, the effect is absolutely nothing.

Even if there were drawings, but there is no way to get the drawing results, it won't effect the short-term trends. I guess everything depends on what you want to study from drawings in the past. Wether or not studying past results is useful or not is not the topic here

 

[Flexalong]

Hi,

I scanned millions of groups of drawings and did not succeed to approach 5 missing numbers per group or 37,38,39,40. Sometimes when there was 4 numbers, they were parsed on many lines. I used the random method. So, I think that we cannot go farther without a very powerful computer for analysing all groups. When you use groups of 20 or so, then you get many 6 number missing groups, even 7 number missing groups but there was never more than 4 winning numbers on line. As there were many lines, it was very difficult to know which line to choose. I also tested analysing these groups within less than 100 draws. There was no improvement; the results where worse.


So, for me, this method is useless. It will take too much time to do the job. Hope someone will find the good computer to go farther with this method.


taaroa

Its true, I recently gotten the code to do it in excel and it's programmed to source out those with 6 missing numbers. And there are literally thousands to a million of such lines.

 

[GameBelgium]

Thousands and thousands of combinations, which is exactly what I predicted to happen several posts ago

I would have rather been wrong about this one tho', we could have earned an extra buck or two here on the forum

 

[taaroa]

Hi GameBelgium / taaroa

What is the effect of missing draws for analyse... When our lotto stopped on 31/03/2007 there was 655 draws. When it reatarted on 13/10/2007 the draw number was 711 (56 draws further) BTW our lotto is run by a private consortium)

BlouBul

"GameBelgium
Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 29

"Bloubul, do I understand it correctly? There were no drawings between 31.03.2007 and 13.10.2007? No matter what number is given to the drawings, if there were no drawings between those dates, the effect is absolutely nothing."

"Even if there were drawings, but there is no way to get the drawing results, it won't effect the short-term trends. I guess everything depends on what you want to study from drawings in the past. Wether or not studying past results is useful or not is not the topic here "


Hi Bloubul,

I agree with GameBelgium. For my analysis, when playing the 6/49, I never go back more than 100 draws back, so, I don't need more draws. For global statistics like distribution of decades, you can use all draws old and new from my point of view. Some players use more than 100 draws back for particular statistics as short-trend ones, like determining hot numbers. In that case, I would not use the old draws but using also the old draws would not change the result a lot.

taaroa

 

[heminen]

Hello taaroa

J'ai perdu ton email
Peux tu me renvoyer un message svp
merci

As tu testé le logiciel lotto Sorceler?

cdt

 

[taaroa]

Hello taaroa

J'ai perdu ton email
Peux tu me renvoyer un message svp
merci

As tu testé le logiciel lotto Sorceler?

cdt

Hi heminem,

To be polite, I'll not answer you in french because this is an english site and thread. Some do post with another languages but I don't agree this behaviour. You must respect others posters and the first poster.When you come on this site, whoever you are, you come because you can read english and then you can write it. I would agree if the post is written in both languages. I could do so but I have no time for that. Everybody on this site must be able to read each post.

About emails, the rules on this site forbid the usage of emails in posts. So, I must respect that and so, I cannot send you mine. Sorry.

About Lotto Sorcerer, Yes, I have tested this program. I didn't got good results. Nearly all programs are similar. There are some different ones. Saliu's programs are good enough if you can use them and if you have good ideas. These are Dos programs except MDIE. In fact, not any program will give you the good numbers to play, safe if you are lucky. Now, if you have a lottery like 5/30, it will be easier to get the good numbers than if you play the 5/49 or 6/49.


taaroa

 

[bloubul]

Hi GameBelgium /taaroa

Nou de enige reden dat ik ben gevraagd omdat ik denk dat onze lotto is tuig,

taarao,
I agree with you

BlouBul

 

[wizrdeye]

Tried in Excel

I have a spreadsheet that checks every combination of 5 numbers 1-56(I was using the white balls in the US Mega Millions) out of the past however many draws. Out of 100 past draws there were many sets of 5 that did not appear lowest set being 44 times out of 100, but again there were many of those. The spreadsheet needs some work cause it tries to show the result one one page(Results being every combination of 5 numbers and how many times they did not appear), not sure how to break it up. But with some tweeking and adjusting for the 6/49 thought it might help with this.
By the way very interesting approach, and great work for the searching, I bet it was time consuming.

 

[PAB]

Hi wizrdeye,

Welcome to the board.

The spreadsheet needs some work cause it tries to show the result one one page ...

Am I correct in saying that your results are produced using a Macro and that it is the Macro putting one result per sheet?
If so, you could do one of two things:

(1) Upload your Spreadsheet so we can see better. You can do this using www.mediafire.com and then just post the link to the file.
(2) Post your Macro so we can have a look.

Good luck!

Regards,
PAB


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Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns everywhere in nature.

 

[PAB]

Hi wizrdeye,

The spreadsheet needs some work cause it tries to show the result one one page ...

I assume that because you have NOT answered my previous post that you have managed to sort out what was wrong with the SpreadSheet?

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
Mathematics is the language of nature.
Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns everywhere in nature.