6 winning numbers in combination 37/36

[taaroa]

Hi Taaroa,

I think GameBelgium is refering to the problem you mentioned in a previous post and I quote "It can happend that there are more than one group with 37 drawings (or others groups) that have 36 numbers. I wonder how to do then."

He is getting thousands of such groups with 36 numbers.

Which makes me think that using 100 draws may be too much.

Hi Flex,

I was speaking of groups of 37 drawings which have 36 numbers. I don't think there will be thousands of these groups with 36 numbers. Now, we can also look at the number of last drawings to use. I keep on Gandalf original idea of 100 drawings. I don't know why he use 100 drawings. Using less drawings say 42 drawings will cut the number of 37 drawings combinations a lot. We must test that. There will be 850668 combinations of groups of 37 drawings.

taaroa

 

[Flexalong]

Hi Flex,

I was speaking of groups of 37 drawings which have 36 numbers. I don't think there will be thousands of these groups with 36 numbers. Now, we can also look at the number of last drawings to use. I keep on Gandalf original idea of 100 drawings. I don't know why he use 100 drawings. Using less drawings say 42 drawings will cut the number of 37 drawings combinations a lot. We must test that. There will be 850668 combinations of groups of 37 drawings.

taaroa

Indeed Taaroa and best of luck.

 

[taaroa]

Hi,

I just analysed 300 groups of 20, 33 and 37 drawings with an Excel sheet.
I shuffled (at random) the last 100 drawings then calculate the frequency of groups of 20, 33 and 37 drawings.
I noticed that the group of 37 drawings had one missing number sometimes.
The group of 33 drawings have one number missing sometimes and 2 numbers missing rarely.
The group of 20 drawings had some 6 numbers missing and once eight numbers missing.

To calculate the frequency, I took the first 20 drawings, then the first 33 drawings (20+13), then the first 37 drawings (33+4). The calculation was made at the same time. Then I shuffled the 100 drawings again and the groups were analysed again.

My conclusion is that 6 numbers missing in 33 to 37 drawings is a rare occurence if you limit your search to a small number of groups.
The group of 20 drawings do have some 6 numbers missing but it that case there are too many numbers to choose.

Just for information, these are the 6 numbers I found for Wednesday drawing:

1-14-17-27-32-37
1-11-30-34-38-40
2-9-10-14-25-26
20-21-25-30-31-34
4-9-14-17-19-25-26-34 (8 numbers)

taaroa

 

[GameBelgium]

For what lottery is that Taaroa? I'm really curious to follow-up on these results.

 

[bloubul]

Hi GameBelgium

Ek neem aan dat jy my kan lees en verstaan, ek gaan vir jou 'n file oplaai vir Saterdag, dan moet jy my met die nommers help asb.

BlouBul

 

[GameBelgium]

Hi Bloubul, I can read and understand what you're saying, yes. However, from my earlier posts, I thought you would have understood that I have no clue how to get the 36/37 groups from the last 100 drawings. It's really complex! I'm not an excel expert, nor a programmer, just someone who tries to use common sense.

 

[bloubul]

Hello GameBelgium
So nou verstaan jy waar mee ek sukkel, ek gaan môre vir jou my vol draw oplaai, help my met die nommers vir Saterdag asb,

Thanks
BlouBul

 

[taaroa]

For what lottery is that Taaroa? I'm really curious to follow-up on these results.

These are the statistics for the 6/42 Belgium Loto for this day (Wednesday). The same loto of Gandalf.

taaroa

 

[taaroa]

Hi,

These are the results of Belgium lotto 6/42 for Wednesday :

11/02/2009 : 2 6 12 14 15 40 Bonus 20

taaroa

 

[Gandalf]

lotto belgium results 6/42

Hello again eveyone!

Today there are some more combinations 37/36 , because there is
a 41/36 hit. It's true that it is very hard to make something in excel, i am still study in the 37/100 combinations without excel, something like delta.
It is also very interesing to find maybe 10 lines that have no hit in the last line. 10 lines with 30 or 32 numbers and then have a lotto form with 10 numbers. In Belgium a line cost only 50 euro cent !

lotto 11 02 09
27-02-2008 1 3 16 17 22 28
05-03-2008 9 25 31 32 35 36
12-03-2008 17 18 20 25 30 37
05-04-2008 8 11 13 21 27 39
09-04-2008 3 5 19 21 24 41
12-04-2008 3 7 8 21 28 32
26-04-2008 16 22 23 27 29 36
30-04-2008 7 33 36 38 41 42
17-05-2008 8 13 24 28 30 41
21-05-2008 16 23 30 35 38 39
24-05-2008 5 7 23 26 29 32
31-05-2008 3 16 23 24 39 41
07-06-2008 4 5 13 18 25 38
14-06-2008 1 11 23 24 31 35
21-06-2008 1 3 4 9 22 31
16-07-2008 5 21 23 29 39 42
23-07-2008 9 19 23 26 29 42
26-07-2008 7 16 21 27 30 31
06-08-2008 1 4 23 27 29 37
13-08-2008 7 16 18 22 34 39
20-08-2008 7 18 33 35 38 39
23-08-2008 1 11 17 33 34 39
10-09-2008 8 9 17 20 22 42
13-09-2008 3 4 20 22 27 42
24-09-2008 1 4 9 10 27 42
01-10-2008 10 13 32 33 36 39
08-10-2008 7 19 23 27 35 37
11-10-2008 3 18 21 25 36 42
25-10-2008 7 8 11 16 28 30
29-10-2008 3 5 11 26 33 39
01-11-2008 4 19 22 24 27 41
05-11-2008 9 23 26 33 34 35
19-11-2008 10 16 19 26 32 37
22-11-2008 27 28 29 31 36 41
29-11-2008 7 23 27 31 33 38
03-12-2008 3 10 24 25 28 31
20-12-2008 18 22 28 31 33 36
07-01-2009 13 16 19 28 30 37
24-01-2009 17 18 19 23 36 37
31-01-2009 5 18 20 34 36 42
04-02-2009 7 8 17 22 23 35

missing numbers are
2 6 12 14 15 40

the winning numbers 11 02 09 are :
2 6 12 14 15 40

( every month have some lines/draws that do not hit in the last line/draw)

Gandalf

 

[taaroa]

Hello again eveyone!

Today there are some more combinations 37/36 , because there is
a 41/36 hit. It's true that it is very hard to make something in excel, i am still study in the 37/100 combinations without excel, something like delta.
It is also very interesing to find maybe 10 lines that have no hit in the last line. 10 lines with 30 or 32 numbers and then have a lotto form with 10 numbers. In Belgium a line cost only 50 euro cent !

lotto 11 02 09
27-02-2008 1 3 16 17 22 28
05-03-2008 9 25 31 32 35 36
12-03-2008 17 18 20 25 30 37
05-04-2008 8 11 13 21 27 39
09-04-2008 3 5 19 21 24 41
12-04-2008 3 7 8 21 28 32
26-04-2008 16 22 23 27 29 36
30-04-2008 7 33 36 38 41 42
17-05-2008 8 13 24 28 30 41
21-05-2008 16 23 30 35 38 39
24-05-2008 5 7 23 26 29 32
31-05-2008 3 16 23 24 39 41
07-06-2008 4 5 13 18 25 38
14-06-2008 1 11 23 24 31 35
21-06-2008 1 3 4 9 22 31
16-07-2008 5 21 23 29 39 42
23-07-2008 9 19 23 26 29 42
26-07-2008 7 16 21 27 30 31
06-08-2008 1 4 23 27 29 37
13-08-2008 7 16 18 22 34 39
20-08-2008 7 18 33 35 38 39
23-08-2008 1 11 17 33 34 39
10-09-2008 8 9 17 20 22 42
13-09-2008 3 4 20 22 27 42
24-09-2008 1 4 9 10 27 42
01-10-2008 10 13 32 33 36 39
08-10-2008 7 19 23 27 35 37
11-10-2008 3 18 21 25 36 42
25-10-2008 7 8 11 16 28 30
29-10-2008 3 5 11 26 33 39
01-11-2008 4 19 22 24 27 41
05-11-2008 9 23 26 33 34 35
19-11-2008 10 16 19 26 32 37
22-11-2008 27 28 29 31 36 41
29-11-2008 7 23 27 31 33 38
03-12-2008 3 10 24 25 28 31
20-12-2008 18 22 28 31 33 36
07-01-2009 13 16 19 28 30 37
24-01-2009 17 18 19 23 36 37
31-01-2009 5 18 20 34 36 42
04-02-2009 7 8 17 22 23 35

missing numbers are
2 6 12 14 15 40

the winning numbers 11 02 09 are :
2 6 12 14 15 40

( every month have some lines/draws that do not hit in the last line/draw)

Gandalf

Hi Gandalf,

It seems that you are better than any software, for you find the good numbers to play nearly each time! How many jackpots have you won since the beginning? It is the first time I see such a success! Congratulations!

taaroa

 

[taaroa]

Hi Gandalf,

I just realized that you used the GameBelgium Excel sheet to search the groups, after the last drawing, the 101th drawing. Sorry that you had not the solution to find the winning numbers before. But keep your faith. One day, the solution will come. I'm working hard on my program.

taaroa

 

[bloubul]

Hi GameBelgium,

Yea I got it now, but how to find the 6#'s for the next draw.

BlouBul

 

[GameBelgium]

Bloubul, that's the million dollar question

No seriously, I'm still very much convinced that you will found several thousands of combinations within the last 100 drawings. I hope I'm wrong!

 

[heminen]

Hello

remember you can filter your thousands combinaisons with differents filters

sum, odd/even,consecutive, and so...

exemple: elimine 20 21 22 41 42
05 12 21 34 45 is more realistic



cdt

 

[taaroa]

Hi,

I just finished to scan 1 million groups of random 34 drawings in 100 drawings. This test took me more than 7 hours. I got 246 groups of 34 drawings with 3 numbers missing, and 2 groups of 34 drawings with 4 numbers missing.
My conclusion is that the program I wrote is too slow. My computer is also too slow. There are 580,717,429,720,889,409,486,981,450 combinations of groups of 34 drawings in 100 drawings. It is very clear that with only 1 million scanned, I'm very far from the number of total combinations. I choose to scan groups of 34 drawings because it is easier to find 6 numbers missing in that group than in groups of 37. Remeber that, basically, in only 7 drawings, we can have the 42 numbers, but, due to repeaters, we need a little more drawing to exhaust all 42 numbers. And the more drawings we have, the less chance we have to have missing numbers. However, in Gandalf method, the searched drawings are not consecutive, doing the job less problematic. GameBelgium Excel sheet show that this is possible. So, my test showed me that I must now search another way to do the job. Gandalf suggestion to scan 10 lines with 30 or 32 numbers is worth trying. One thing is certain : it is very easy to search the drawings when you know the result but doing the reverse operation is a very difficult one. In the total of combinations, there is probably more than one group with 6 numbers missing. If you get 8 groups, you will have 48 numbers to choose from. Maybe a little less if there are doubles or triples. The method would be worthless. So, let's work more to make progress.

I scanned these 1 million lines to find 6 numbers missing to play for the drawing of 11 FEB 2009.

The 2 groups with 4 numbers missing popped up in lines 4220 and 975798.

Line - Group of 34 drawings
4220 7 9 11 12 13 16 17 19 22 27 28 31 39 41 44 46 51 54 56 58 60 63 64 65 68 75 76 77 82 83 85 91 94 100 Missing numbers : 4 : 15 17 25 34 0 0
975798 2 12 13 16 17 18 22 24 25 26 27 33 42 44 45 55 60 66 67 68 71 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 86 89 91 92 93 99 Missing numbers : 4 : 4 9 15 34 0 0

Drawing of 11 FEB 2009 : 2 6 12 14 15 40

There is just one number right (15) wich is common to two results.

To be good, we have to find 6 missing numbers in groups of around 37 numbers.

taaroa

 

[Flexalong]

Hi,

I just finished to scan 1 million groups of random 34 drawings in 100 drawings. This test took me more than 7 hours. I got 246 groups of 34 drawings with 3 numbers missing, and 2 groups of 34 drawings with 4 numbers missing.
My conclusion is that the program I wrote is too slow. My computer is also too slow. There are 580,717,429,720,889,409,486,981,450 combinations of groups of 34 drawings in 100 drawings. It is very clear that with only 1 million scanned, I'm very far from the number of total combinations. I choose to scan groups of 34 drawings because it is easier to find 6 numbers missing in that group than in groups of 37. Remeber that, basically, in only 7 drawings, we can have the 42 numbers, but, due to repeaters, we need a little more drawing to exhaust all 42 numbers. And the more drawings we have, the less chance we have to have missing numbers. However, in Gandalf method, the searched drawings are not consecutive, doing the job less problematic. GameBelgium Excel sheet show that this is possible. So, my test showed me that I must now search another way to do the job. Gandalf suggestion to scan 10 lines with 30 or 32 numbers is worth trying. One thing is certain : it is very easy to search the drawings when you know the result but doing the reverse operation is a very difficult one. In the total of combinations, there is probably more than one group with 6 numbers missing. If you get 8 groups, you will have 48 numbers to choose from. Maybe a little less if there are doubles or triples. The method would be worthless. So, let's work more to make progress.

I scanned these 1 million lines to find 6 numbers missing to play for the drawing of 11 FEB 2009.

The 2 groups with 4 numbers missing popped up in lines 4220 and 975798.

Line - Group of 34 drawings
4220 7 9 11 12 13 16 17 19 22 27 28 31 39 41 44 46 51 54 56 58 60 63 64 65 68 75 76 77 82 83 85 91 94 100 Missing numbers : 4 : 15 17 25 34 0 0
975798 2 12 13 16 17 18 22 24 25 26 27 33 42 44 45 55 60 66 67 68 71 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 86 89 91 92 93 99 Missing numbers : 4 : 4 9 15 34 0 0

Drawing of 11 FEB 2009 : 2 6 12 14 15 40

There is just one number right (15) wich is common to two results.

To be good, we have to find 6 missing numbers in groups of around 37 numbers.

taaroa

Hi Taaroa,

The 8 groups of numbers should be displayed as eight combinations. If the combination has 9 or 10 numbers, maybe can filter or wheel them.

Being clueless in programming, I am still looking for the macro to do it in excel. Maybe Giles D can help me on this?

Btw have you tried using less draws? Like maybe 50 instead of 100, and find the optimal number of combinations to use to get maybe >=6 and <=10.

 

[taaroa]

Hi Flex,

For the 37 groups of drawings of 37 numbers, the GameBelgium Excel sheet show us that they are dispatched over 100 drawings generally. So, il you want to take groupings not in 100 but in 50 drawings, you must analyse what groups to use, maybe 18 drawings. I'll look at that.

taaroa

 

[GameBelgium]

Taaroa, no matter what the outcome, I just wanna say I appreciate all the work and time you invest in investigating the system. I've been thinking about it a lot myself, and if I come up with any good idea, I'll definitely let you know.

 

[taaroa]

Taaroa, no matter what the outcome, I just wanna say I appreciate all the work and time you invest in investigating the system. I've been thinking about it a lot myself, and if I come up with any good idea, I'll definitely let you know.

Thanks,

This is a real challenge. I'm always trying to understand.

From your Excel sheet, there were 33 lines (drawings) which didn't have the numbers of the last drawing (101th).

14/02/2009 21 22 28 31 33 42

taaroa