6/49 Discussion For June 05, 2004

[gsobier]

Dennis:

For those who don't have a Quad Announcers report with Bonus; we had this...
43 17 01 47 41 37 36 30 26 46... ...half of it was in there. This doesn't work all the time... ...when it does, it helps.

A report I've been working on gave me this...17 44 25 38 31 20 43 45 40 21 07 05 01 26 12 (notice hitters from the last draw are in here too, very interesting)... ...I've seen this before again and again, its no fluke... ...I'm learning more about where the hitters end up in the list (the order they are in is a ranking). Once in a while it does not turn out and you have to expect that... ...we will see how things go with it... ...this can be applied to Ontario 49 which I will be moving to when I'm not so busy.

2122 looked like this... ...24 38 33 45 15 38 05 01 46 16 11 10 32 26 37.

When some projects I've working is done, I'll get back to developing and testing to get more reliable results... ...not sure if its possible... ...we will see.

Do you think I'd post this kind of list a few days before the draw???, I say NOPE to lurkers!

Regards,
George

Based on some projection and backtests...The double and triple announcers taken alone could help spot these outliers in about 30% of the time... (using the total history, Margin of error 1 out of 5...)

 

[nt1]

Instead of buying just one ticket, too many silly system players continued to waste money on wheels and sales increased by 63% from the previous Wednesday!

dont you know that lottery is the "quiet fools tax" ?
it doesnt really matter how you play, your odds are always
the same, relative to the money you invest in the game.
personaly i play only with wheeling system games <<< no ads for the sale of lotto software in the forums please >>>

 

[hot4]

Dennis:

For those who don't have a Quad Announcers report with Bonus; we had this...
43 17 01 47 41 37 36 30 26 46... ...half of it was in there. This doesn't work all the time... ...when it does, it helps.

A report I've been working on gave me this...17 44 25 38 31 20 43 45 40 21 07 05 01 26 12 (notice hitters from the last draw are in here too, very interesting)... ...I've seen this before again and again, its no fluke... ...I'm learning more about where the hitters end up in the list (the order they are in is a ranking). Once in a while it does not turn out and you have to expect that... ...we will see how things go with it... ...this can be applied to Ontario 49 which I will be moving to when I'm not so busy.

2122 looked like this... ...24 38 33 45 15 38 05 01 46 16 11 10 32 26 37.

When some projects I've working is done, I'll get back to developing and testing to get more reliable results... ...not sure if its possible... ...we will see.

Do you think I'd post this kind of list a few days before the draw???, I say NOPE to lurkers!

Regards,
George

George, before I can give you my opinion about the usefulness of such list, I need to know what is Quad announcers? May be I'm not the only one not knowing that but if so,

 

[Dennis Bassboss]

George, before I can give you my opinion about the usefulness of such list, I need to know what is Quad announcers? May be I'm not the only one not knowing that but if so,

I can answer that Hot4...And I have worked and still am working with these too...And so is Beaker...I smell it in his picks from time to time...Take a full pick 4 wheel for the 7 numbers that came up yesterday Lets put it here as an example...
Pick 4 : 7 numbers (4/4) 35 games
The 7 wheel numbers are 12 13 17 26 43 45 11
001. 12 13 17 26
002. 12 43 45 11
003. 26 43 45 11
004. 13 17 45 11
005. 12 13 26 43
006. 17 43 45 11
007. 12 13 17 11
008. 13 26 43 45
009. 12 17 26 11
010. 12 26 43 45
011. 13 17 43 11
012. 12 13 26 45
013. 17 26 45 11
014. 12 13 17 43
015. 13 43 45 11
016. 12 17 26 45
017. 12 26 43 11
018. 13 17 26 11
019. 12 13 43 45
020. 12 17 45 11
021. 13 17 26 43
022. 13 26 45 11
023. 12 17 43 11
024. 12 17 43 45
025. 13 26 43 11
026. 12 13 17 45
027. 12 26 45 11
028. 13 17 43 45
029. 12 13 26 11
030. 17 26 43 11
031. 12 17 26 43
032. 12 13 45 11
033. 13 17 26 45
034. 12 13 43 11
035. 17 26 43 45
So all of these came up yesterday...
Now lets search in the history what each of these foursome have announced the following draws after they showed up...(keep in mind that some foursome appeared for the first time in the history yesterday...so you can't used them as quads announcers)
Lets start with the 13-17-45-11
0377 02/09/1987 11 13 17 20 22 45 49
2055 01/10/2003 01 11 13 17 41 42 45
2126 05/06/2004 11 12 13 17 26 43 45
So has you see 3 times before in the history this foursome showed up...What we aim for is what is happenning after it comes up..Lets check it...
in 378 we have..
08-11-15-31-32-33-35
in 2056 we have...
03-28-29-32-34-37-45
We can see here that 32 has been announced twice by that foursome...In fact the low thirty are well announced by this group of 4 numbers...
But before jumping to conclusions here...
The idea here is to compile all of what each foursome has announced in the past...You than get an overall picture and like George is saying some nices ones at times...
You can also look at it another way like compiling all the three hitters(triples announcers or all the pairs(double announcers)
The picture is than even better...
I know that George is working hard with it (I saw a few of his work)

 

[Karnac]

Dennis....take a look

Originally posted by Dennis Bassboss
Here are some good ones...
10-11 has never come up with 13 or 18
14-15 has never come up with 33,22 or 29 or 07
12-13 has never come up with17
13-14 has never come up with 22
17-18 has never come up with 14 or 11
11-12 has never come up with 35
31-32 has never come up with 34
47-48 has never come up with 38
44-45 has never come up with 35 0r 08
32-33 has never come up with 43
35-36-37 never happened
48-49 has never come up with 25
16-17 never showed up with 46
15-16 never showed up with 21
20-21 never showed up with 23
03-04 never showed up with 42
04-05 never showed up with 02
07-08 never showed up with 32or 14
19-20 never showed up with 05

 

[Dennis Bassboss]

Dennis....take a look

Originally posted by Dennis Bassboss
Here are some good ones...
10-11 has never come up with 13 or 18
14-15 has never come up with 33,22 or 29 or 07
12-13 has never come up with 17
13-14 has never come up with 22
17-18 has never come up with 14 or 11
11-12 has never come up with 35
31-32 has never come up with 34
47-48 has never come up with 38
44-45 has never come up with 35 0r 08
32-33 has never come up with 43
35-36-37 never happened
48-49 has never come up with 25
16-17 never showed up with 46
15-16 never showed up with 21
20-21 never showed up with 23
03-04 never showed up with 42
04-05 never showed up with 02
07-08 never showed up with 32or 14
19-20 never showed up with 05
12-13 has never come up with 17

I saw that yesterday and I keep hitting my head on the wall....It was talked over by some players lately...And I played that 17 heavy too yesterday...I thought about playing 12 and 13
but decided to go with the trends in decades...
I certainly missed the boat on that one..

But this list is pure gold...Others will come from it...

 

[Sheba]

Received in email from (LotteryBuddy)
$17 Million Lotto 6/49
It seems that the Interprovincial Lottery Corporation has decided to have a bonus jackpot of $17 million for the next draw on Wednesday, June 9. Sales continued to be higher than expected, and the sole jackpot winner from Regina won $10,929,379.

--------------------------
I don't agree with that statement at all. Sales up?.
Tickets that were sold for:
May 29 : 14,296,268 @ 1.00 each
June 2 : 8,642,125 @ 2.00 each
June 5 11,138,148 @ 2.00 each...
So sales are not up just the amount of money they are making... What a bunch of Dumb A$$'s...

Sheba__ ~~~
Everybody's Got a Dream...JACKPOT!
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[Karnac]

Dennis
Thanks for the explanation on the quad announcers, I will put it to good use with my trailing numbers data.

 

[Dennis Bassboss]

Dennis
Thanks for the explanation on the quad announcers, I will put it to good use with my trailing numbers data.

You are very much welcome..Lots of variantations could be done with these...
example; Nick's is using the neural net method in his software...
I'm trying to mix it with another strategy that would complement it at least 40% of the time...
Nick's last post on positionning is an avenue to follow..
I don't know what avenue George is following but just looking up at his post it certainly worth a look...
By the way keep up your great work Karnak...
you are doing just fine yourself...

 

[hot4]

I can answer that Hot4...And I have worked and still am working with these too...And so is Beaker...I smell it in his picks from time to time...Take a full pick 4 wheel for the 7 numbers that came up yesterday Lets put it here as an example...
Pick 4 : 7 numbers (4/4) 35 games
The 7 wheel numbers are 12 13 17 26 43 45 11
001. 12 13 17 26
002. 12 43 45 11
003. 26 43 45 11
<snip>....
035. 17 26 43 45
So all of these came up yesterday...
Now lets search in the history what each of these foursome have announced the following draws after they showed up...(keep in mind that some foursome appeared for the first time in the history yesterday...so you can't used them as quads announcers)
Lets start with the 13-17-45-11
0377 02/09/1987 11 13 17 20 22 45 49
2055 01/10/2003 01 11 13 17 41 42 45
2126 05/06/2004 11 12 13 17 26 43 45
So has you see 3 times before in the history this foursome showed up...What we aim for is what is happenning after it comes up..Lets check it...
in 378 we have..
08-11-15-31-32-33-35
in 2056 we have...
03-28-29-32-34-37-45
We can see here that 32 has been announced twice by that foursome...In fact the low thirty are well announced by this group of 4 numbers...
But before jumping to conclusions here...
The idea here is to compile all of what each foursome has announced in the past...You than get an overall picture and like George is saying some nices ones at times...
You can also look at it another way like compiling all the three hitters(triples announcers or all the pairs(double announcers)
The picture is than even better...
I know that George is working hard with it (I saw a few of his work)

Thanks Dennis, very good explanation, really.
May be the double announcers are easier to get, but if George can make a Quad announcers report for each draw, let's take it and see what we get.
I'll go on searching in a different orientation but whishing good results with QuadAnnouncers. It's better to not focus only in one method/strategy, let's spread our efforts in other strategies ...

 

[Beaker]

How about this from last draw - 2DN'S + 2

Originally posted by Beaker June 2nd
Time to unleash the winners:

3DNs = 12-43-46
with
$$$ 5-7-13-14-15-20-26-38-40-47 $$$

Good luck players

Let the begin

 

[Karnac]

Dennis,

I ran those 35 quads through the database, and I was amazed at how many of the 35 had never occurred. In keeping with that thought, I analyzed each draw that occurred after the usuable quads. In 8 usable quads I found 16 numbers that had 10+ skips when they were selected.
Also here are 16 numbers that never occurred following the 35 quads period:
4 10 12 16 18 19 21 24 25 26 30 34 38 42 44 47

I'll let you draw conclusions and strategy, but there are interesting parameters available here.

 

[gsobier]

Dennis:

Those other lists I posted are created this way... ...from reading 7,500 individual reports I maintain... ...you then find the extremes in those reports and run against a collection of 6.8M reasonable/probable sets. What comes out, is pure gold sometimes.

Last month, I notice something out of the ordinary and figured out why... ...I created the condition on purpose in test mode and presto, a more reliable report... ...when I have time, I'll be polishing my new toy.

BTW, those 2 lists are in reverse order (best is at the end)... ...looking at them that way, DNs = .

Regards,
George

You are very much welcome..Lots of variantations could be done with these...
example; Nick's is using the neural net method in his software...
I'm trying to mix it with another strategy that would complement it at least 40% of the time...
Nick's last post on positionning is an avenue to follow..
I don't know what avenue George is following but just looking up at his post it certainly worth a look...
By the way keep up your great work Karnak...
you are doing just fine yourself...

 

[hot4]

How about this from last draw - 2DN'S + 2

OK Beaker you want to win every weight title! After being the Champion of Oneoffitis, now you are the Champion of the ONEAHEAD TITLE!

 

[Dennis Bassboss]

Dennis,

I ran those 35 quads through the database, and I was amazed at how many of the 35 had never occurred. In keeping with that thought, I analyzed each draw that occurred after the usuable quads. In 8 usable quads I found 16 numbers that had 10+ skips when they were selected.
Also here are 16 numbers that never occurred following the 35 quads period:
4 10 12 16 18 19 21 24 25 26 30 34 38 42 44 47

I'll let you draw conclusions and strategy, but there are interesting parameters available here.

Karnak both tails end of the announcers are gems at times...We who are aware of that are using it a lot...Very rewarding at times...like you'said mixed with other gems...

 

[gsobier]

Frank:

The biggest problem, (probably never solved) is where to look. Even all these things do not work all the time.

Regards,
George

Thanks Dennis, very good explanation, really.
May be the double announcers are easier to get, but if George can make a Quad announcers report for each draw, let's take it and see what we get.
I'll go on searching in a different orientation but whishing good results with QuadAnnouncers. It's better to not focus only in one method/strategy, let's spread our efforts in other strategies ...

 

[Dennis Bassboss]

Frank:

The biggest problem, (probably never solved) is where to look. All these things do not work all the time.

Regards,
George

But they don't have too....Because when they do ...They put you on track for $$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[gsobier]

Beaker:

If 46 hit instead 45, that would really make you.

Regards,
George

How about this from last draw - 2DN'S + 2

 

[gsobier]

Dennis:

The new prize structure has changed things where playing less sets is advised... ...playing less sets in turn, rules out some possible winnings. The aminals doing the research on 6/49 aware of how some players have played before I'm sure know the ramifications of the change beyond the typical blah, blah, blah of bigger jackpot... ...like I explained before, $20 for a 3 hitter is how it should be.

Here in Ontario, Stupid 7 is 2 manditory Quick Picks... ...the ordinary Quick Pick shmuck would think twice about 1 set for 6/49 and favor Stupid 7 more if I was them and sort of aware of the situation. This $17M is just another tactic to get customers interested.

Regards,
George

But they don't have too....Because when they do ...They put you on track for $$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Maggie]

I really do not like this 2 dollar a line crap at all.