US Election Nite Decision 2004!
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... ...if all Canadians voted in our own elections, we'd be queued up like cattle too... ...may the least crook win
Beaker
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Stick a fork in it - its doneshirazbai said:
4 more Bush years.
Congratulations
Without Colin Powell there I would be very afraid
W: 'So Rummy, with Powelly gone whuddya think about Wolfy takin' over State?
Rumsfeld: ' Wolfowitz????'
W:' Yeah Wolfy - then we could really kick some Arab A$$' hahahahaha'
Be afraid - very afraid
Brad
Member
Just one more ...
I sure hope the US public realizes there is nothing stopping the steamrolling now ... at least with Enron there was still someone to clamp down on those crooks. With Hawks, there were only the voters left and they blew it IMO.
This doesn't mean to say that Kerry was a prize but at least there was hope of some cooperation with the rest of the globe, if nothing else. With that option gone I think we've just taken a step backwards to the medieval ages ...
DisneyWorld here we come ...
I sure hope the US public realizes there is nothing stopping the steamrolling now ... at least with Enron there was still someone to clamp down on those crooks. With Hawks, there were only the voters left and they blew it IMO.
This doesn't mean to say that Kerry was a prize but at least there was hope of some cooperation with the rest of the globe, if nothing else. With that option gone I think we've just taken a step backwards to the medieval ages ...
DisneyWorld here we come ...
Dennis Bassboss
Member
But we as Canadian have little advices to talk about....We also put back
clowns
and illeterate people in charge....
clowns
and illeterate people in charge....This is a great day for freedom. The Party of Liberation and Freedom (Republican Party) soundly defeated the Party of Perversion (Democrat Party) and its Hollyweird brethren.
Let me tell you why Bush won Ohio and in the rest of middle America. First, it was the constant ridicule of the leftists in Europe and Canada and the Michael Moores here. You see, we Americans don't like to be told how to think, and we don't like others trying to influence our elections. Michael Moore alone probably gave Bush 2 million votes.
And we are a lot smarter than you think we are. You tell us there is a Halliburton scandal; we know better. We know they won no-bid contracts many years ago, just like in Kosovo. We know Cheney cannot profit from Halliburton's rise or fall; any profits he gets are automatically given to charity, and losses are offset by insurance. So he will leave office in the exact same financial position as when he entered. When you say Bush lied, then that means Blair lied, and Putin, and Chirac, and Hussein of Jordan, etc. Why do you think our soldiers all carried gas masks? Was it just part of the master scheme by Bush, or were they actually fearful of the WMD's that Jordan and Egypt warned us of? You tell us our economy is terrible, yet, we know the economic figures are better than when Clinton sought re-election. And this after terrible blows to our economy - many feared (including me) that our economy would never grow again, yet here we are 3 years later growing at a 3-4% rate. You tell us we are alienating Muslims, yet we know we just dethroned the man who has killed more Muslims than any man alive.
You tell us we should be more sensitive to the wishes of Europe and Canada, yet we know Canada, France, Germany, Russia, and China were scamming the oil-for-food program for riches for themselves, and we know France was selling weapons to Iraq right up until the war. You tell us we should do only what the UN wants us to do, yet we know that if anything needs fixing in this world, it's America that is the one to fix it. We know the UN is corrupt, and the rest of the world is too weak and too timid to do much of anything.
Look, I know Europe was once the center of the world, but those days are gone. We are an extremely generous people, we jumped in and bailed out the world in WWII, even though Hitler never attacked us. So when we embark on something we feel is important, we expect Canada and Europe to offer help, but instead they openly defy us. Do you know why Bush went to that aircraft carrier and declared the end of major combat operations? That's because France and others said they would help us once major combat operations were over, but guess what? They lied.
If you want to improve relations between Europe, Canada, and the US, here's a simple solution: next time we ask for your help, give it. Or at worst, stay neutral. But don't openly defy us, you give our enemies comfort by doing that. If you don't like the fact that we are so dominant in the world, then stop whining about it and get rid of the socialism in your countries - that is what has made you so weak. If you want to be our allies, then be our allies. You should have helped us in Iraq, whether you agreed with us or not, because you know that a united front would help to demoralize and defeat the terrorists, and fewer people all over the world would have to die.
But instead the terrorists look at Canada and Europe as THEIR allies, not ours, so it empowers them. So you sit back and hope that being sympathetic to the terrorists will keep you safe from attack; that is a very narrow, naive, selfish and short-sighted approach. So I hope Canada and Europe have gotten a wake-up call from this election and decides that being an ally is a two-way street. But if not, then you will just become more irrelevant and more of a nuisance to us, and when it comes time for you to ask our help, we may be less inclined to give it. I remember the sympathy from Canda and Europe after 9/11, but I don't remember any actual help to get us back on our feet. And yet, if it had happened to you, we would have given billions to help. I imagine many in Canada and Europe were secretly glad to see us weakened - not the sign of an ally now is it?
So either decide to become our ally or shut up. We don't care about what you think, we care about what you do, and you haven't done much lately except complain. You think things are bad in Iraq? Then send troops and come help make it better. But whining from the sidelines accomplishes nothing. Actions speak louder than words; it is time for Canada and Europe to act - go fix the Sudan, go fight AIDS in Africa, go clean up the corruption in the UN, do SOMETHING. But please stop doing nothing but complaining; it's gotten very old, and it won't make you our ally.
I can't wait until our loony leftwing liberals move to Canada like they constantly threaten to (but never do). Canada can have our losers to go along with our draft dodgers that live in Canada.
Let me tell you why Bush won Ohio and in the rest of middle America. First, it was the constant ridicule of the leftists in Europe and Canada and the Michael Moores here. You see, we Americans don't like to be told how to think, and we don't like others trying to influence our elections. Michael Moore alone probably gave Bush 2 million votes.
And we are a lot smarter than you think we are. You tell us there is a Halliburton scandal; we know better. We know they won no-bid contracts many years ago, just like in Kosovo. We know Cheney cannot profit from Halliburton's rise or fall; any profits he gets are automatically given to charity, and losses are offset by insurance. So he will leave office in the exact same financial position as when he entered. When you say Bush lied, then that means Blair lied, and Putin, and Chirac, and Hussein of Jordan, etc. Why do you think our soldiers all carried gas masks? Was it just part of the master scheme by Bush, or were they actually fearful of the WMD's that Jordan and Egypt warned us of? You tell us our economy is terrible, yet, we know the economic figures are better than when Clinton sought re-election. And this after terrible blows to our economy - many feared (including me) that our economy would never grow again, yet here we are 3 years later growing at a 3-4% rate. You tell us we are alienating Muslims, yet we know we just dethroned the man who has killed more Muslims than any man alive.
You tell us we should be more sensitive to the wishes of Europe and Canada, yet we know Canada, France, Germany, Russia, and China were scamming the oil-for-food program for riches for themselves, and we know France was selling weapons to Iraq right up until the war. You tell us we should do only what the UN wants us to do, yet we know that if anything needs fixing in this world, it's America that is the one to fix it. We know the UN is corrupt, and the rest of the world is too weak and too timid to do much of anything.
Look, I know Europe was once the center of the world, but those days are gone. We are an extremely generous people, we jumped in and bailed out the world in WWII, even though Hitler never attacked us. So when we embark on something we feel is important, we expect Canada and Europe to offer help, but instead they openly defy us. Do you know why Bush went to that aircraft carrier and declared the end of major combat operations? That's because France and others said they would help us once major combat operations were over, but guess what? They lied.
If you want to improve relations between Europe, Canada, and the US, here's a simple solution: next time we ask for your help, give it. Or at worst, stay neutral. But don't openly defy us, you give our enemies comfort by doing that. If you don't like the fact that we are so dominant in the world, then stop whining about it and get rid of the socialism in your countries - that is what has made you so weak. If you want to be our allies, then be our allies. You should have helped us in Iraq, whether you agreed with us or not, because you know that a united front would help to demoralize and defeat the terrorists, and fewer people all over the world would have to die.
But instead the terrorists look at Canada and Europe as THEIR allies, not ours, so it empowers them. So you sit back and hope that being sympathetic to the terrorists will keep you safe from attack; that is a very narrow, naive, selfish and short-sighted approach. So I hope Canada and Europe have gotten a wake-up call from this election and decides that being an ally is a two-way street. But if not, then you will just become more irrelevant and more of a nuisance to us, and when it comes time for you to ask our help, we may be less inclined to give it. I remember the sympathy from Canda and Europe after 9/11, but I don't remember any actual help to get us back on our feet. And yet, if it had happened to you, we would have given billions to help. I imagine many in Canada and Europe were secretly glad to see us weakened - not the sign of an ally now is it?
So either decide to become our ally or shut up. We don't care about what you think, we care about what you do, and you haven't done much lately except complain. You think things are bad in Iraq? Then send troops and come help make it better. But whining from the sidelines accomplishes nothing. Actions speak louder than words; it is time for Canada and Europe to act - go fix the Sudan, go fight AIDS in Africa, go clean up the corruption in the UN, do SOMETHING. But please stop doing nothing but complaining; it's gotten very old, and it won't make you our ally.
I can't wait until our loony leftwing liberals move to Canada like they constantly threaten to (but never do). Canada can have our losers to go along with our draft dodgers that live in Canada.
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Cleo your right wing rhetoric puts Pravda in the old Soviet Union to shame. And yes Bush was re-elected for another 4 years. And yes we all know it will be 4 years of the same.
You can be sure one thing will grow and thats your deficit. Why do you think your dollar keeps falling? Its cuz the financial experts of the world think its a s**** economic policy and they are not buying your T-bills.
As for not going into Iraq, it wasn't the right thing to do. It was very unpopular with the population, and would have been equivalent to political suicide with an election coming up. Even Stephen Harper who is a right wing conservative is denying now that he would have sent Canadians into Iraq. The premise for war was WMD's. Where are the WMD's? That coalition is getting smaller and smaller every day. Hungary just said they will be pulling out in February. Canada didn't send troops but we sent aid in the range of 300 million dollars.
I don't think anyone who didn't send troops regrets that decision with the chaos going on Iraq at the moment. Even the Pentagon said in a report a few months back if they are lucky things will remain the same as current conditions, and if its bad it will be a full blown civil war within a year. Charity and aid agencies are pulling out with all the kidnappings and poor security. Suicide bombings are on the rise. Holding elections in Iraq by February is a long shot at best.
And good luck getting other European countries to send more troops. G.W alienated and insulted all of them, and saying let bygones be bygones is not gonna convince them to send troops. Its a very expensive mess over their in Iraq, and good luck getting someone else to foot the bill.
As for your remark on saving Europe in WW2, no one disputes the US played a pivotal role in WW2, but they were also known as "Johnny come lately" in that war. And you can't expect Europe to join in on a war that they feel is unpopular and unilateral. If you want to use that premise you can say your debt is paid by France for providing aid to the US when they fought for independance from Great Britain.
As for France and Germany saying they would send troops, I never heard them say that in public or on any news reports. All I remember from that specific news reference was GW went to that aircraft carrier and said " mission accomplished" possibly as a PR stunt and possibly to boost troop morale.
As for Canada being the US allies, we are your allies. We just don't feel we should be dragged into something we don't want to be in. We can be allies and have our differences on certain issues. Neighbors can be neighbors without agreeing on everything. We are in Afghanistan and in Haiti and Kosovo. Also it would be political suicide for Martin to send in troops being in a minority government because it would be very unpopular with the population. In addition even if Martin wanted to, I don't think they have the troops to send to Iraq at the current time. After that Somalia incident they disbanded that infantry unit and never replaced it.
You can be sure one thing will grow and thats your deficit. Why do you think your dollar keeps falling? Its cuz the financial experts of the world think its a s**** economic policy and they are not buying your T-bills.
As for not going into Iraq, it wasn't the right thing to do. It was very unpopular with the population, and would have been equivalent to political suicide with an election coming up. Even Stephen Harper who is a right wing conservative is denying now that he would have sent Canadians into Iraq. The premise for war was WMD's. Where are the WMD's? That coalition is getting smaller and smaller every day. Hungary just said they will be pulling out in February. Canada didn't send troops but we sent aid in the range of 300 million dollars.
I don't think anyone who didn't send troops regrets that decision with the chaos going on Iraq at the moment. Even the Pentagon said in a report a few months back if they are lucky things will remain the same as current conditions, and if its bad it will be a full blown civil war within a year. Charity and aid agencies are pulling out with all the kidnappings and poor security. Suicide bombings are on the rise. Holding elections in Iraq by February is a long shot at best.
And good luck getting other European countries to send more troops. G.W alienated and insulted all of them, and saying let bygones be bygones is not gonna convince them to send troops. Its a very expensive mess over their in Iraq, and good luck getting someone else to foot the bill.
As for your remark on saving Europe in WW2, no one disputes the US played a pivotal role in WW2, but they were also known as "Johnny come lately" in that war. And you can't expect Europe to join in on a war that they feel is unpopular and unilateral. If you want to use that premise you can say your debt is paid by France for providing aid to the US when they fought for independance from Great Britain.
As for France and Germany saying they would send troops, I never heard them say that in public or on any news reports. All I remember from that specific news reference was GW went to that aircraft carrier and said " mission accomplished" possibly as a PR stunt and possibly to boost troop morale.
As for Canada being the US allies, we are your allies. We just don't feel we should be dragged into something we don't want to be in. We can be allies and have our differences on certain issues. Neighbors can be neighbors without agreeing on everything. We are in Afghanistan and in Haiti and Kosovo. Also it would be political suicide for Martin to send in troops being in a minority government because it would be very unpopular with the population. In addition even if Martin wanted to, I don't think they have the troops to send to Iraq at the current time. After that Somalia incident they disbanded that infantry unit and never replaced it.
Karnac
I am glad you are reading rense.com
great website that exposes those liars
Cleo:
As for Freedom winning hahaha, you just wrote down your demise
by letting zionists and right wing christians control you.
Don't be fooled by Kerry cause he was no difference. He would have attacked Iran..But they can't even finish Iraq off
As for casualties it's more than 5,000 not the pathetic 1100 they claim hahaha...the more the better such filthy killers
I am glad you are reading rense.com
great website that exposes those liars
Cleo:
As for Freedom winning hahaha, you just wrote down your demise
by letting zionists and right wing christians control you.
Don't be fooled by Kerry cause he was no difference. He would have attacked Iran..But they can't even finish Iraq off
As for casualties it's more than 5,000 not the pathetic 1100 they claim hahaha...the more the better such filthy killers
Dennis Bassboss
Member
And besides...Who can tell with solid proof that Bush is not gay... 
from some people here after seeing the election results.Dennis Bassboss
Member
The owners are now realizing their past mistakes...They will hold on...
So we are out of hockey for quite a while....
But this U.S. garage league will make place for real hockey canadian way...
Anyways the americans never understood the game itself...They corrupted the sport...
So we are out of hockey for quite a while....
But this U.S. garage league will make place for real hockey canadian way...
Anyways the americans never understood the game itself...They corrupted the sport...As always, they only understood How to try and make a buck, I agree they destroyed the gameDennis Bassboss said:The owners are now realizing their past mistakes...They will hold on...
So we are out of hockey for quite a while....
But this U.S. garage league will make place for real hockey canadian way...