There's gotta be a way...

[Teufellj]

I have been working prodigiously on a program for pick3 in Ohio and some of it can be viewed in the "Daily Lotto" forum. I can pretty well nail down what will be played on a daily basis and...part 2 of this program verifies what Part 1 has indicated. The situation arrives with the prediction area. I have to evolve a concentrated numbers group or a way to get pointers for a win but with as few as six digits. The reason for as few as six digits is overwhelming. When dealing with numbers, I don't want to work with hundreds of possible sets and then have to do a three or four hour filtering setup too. There's just gotta be a way and I am not seeing it so far! There are hints off and on but not enough info to go on.

Comments: (serious)

Teufellj...

 

[johnph77]

Six numbers narrows the possibilities down to 216 total, including 6 trips and 90 pairs. Guess it'll depend on how reliable the system has been historically.

 

[Teufellj]

I can agree with that, johnph77. The pointer matrix-not my predictions because I'm not good as a seer, proves what I have said. Check the Ohio stats vs. what I have thus far posted and you will see that I'm not crowing! I have a part of the picture that works but the futures are the hangups!

Thanks for the reply,

Teufellj...

 

[blitzed]

yup, you are right...from what I've seen, a good system should have 2 or 3 cross-check algorithms to validate picks.

later,
blitzed

 

[Teufellj]

Thanks guys!

Teufellj...

 

[blitzed]

you are most welcome

cheers!
blitzed

 

[johnph77]

Teufellj -

One thing to keep in mind if you're trying to develop a system to turn a profit - OH's Pick 3 game has an overall payout percentage of just under 50%. It's 50% on most of the straight bets and 49% (or a hair less) on the straight/box and box bets. The system therefore has to be capable of beating the normal odds by at least a factor of two - a tall proposition under any circumstances.

Earlier you said your system was to be focused on six numbers, yielding 216 possibilities. If that's the case, these six numbers in any combination have to hit the next draw more than 43.2% of the time in the very next draw to reach the break-even point. If the system is dynamic - different predictions for each draw if the system includes the numbers in the immediate previous draw - it'll get complicated, but not impossible.

I'm certainly not trying to be discouraging. I'm just pointing out the math behind all this. The ray of hope I can offer you is that there are places on the Internet where you can play Pick 3 and Pick 4 games in any jurisdiction you desire and be assured of a 90% payout. This means your system only has to hit 24% of the time to break even. I won't cite those websites since I don't want to incur LT's wrath about advertising but a Google search on Internet + betting + Pick 3 will yield results. I have no idea whether these locations still accept bets from the U.S. or how reliable they are - so caveat emptor.

Good luck.

John

 

[Teufellj]

Hello again John,
I have accepted your findings a long time ago and am not phased. The on going production of a lottery program is not for public use by other players.
It's my baby! I do and will try to help other folks as I have tried in the past with only a small portion of what is being done on display. What I have shown in the forums is the "pointer section" of my program. In real time when I have the right info I insert this data and produce the right sets as a group for the general public for whatever province, parrish or state, etc...! With minor adjustments, I have proven that My program works in several states. Now again I will state that this regimen is not for public sale---I am the sole owner and user. Number equations and patterns are a challenge and there's no way am I going to be beaten for long!

Regards,

Teufellj...

 

[yelena.au]

I have been working prodigiously on a program for pick3 in Ohio and some of it can be viewed in the "Daily Lotto" forum. I can pretty well nail down what will be played on a daily basis and...part 2 of this program verifies what Part 1 has indicated. The situation arrives with the prediction area. I have to evolve a concentrated numbers group or a way to get pointers for a win but with as few as six digits. The reason for as few as six digits is overwhelming. When dealing with numbers, I don't want to work with hundreds of possible sets and then have to do a three or four hour filtering setup too. There's just gotta be a way and I am not seeing it so far! There are hints off and on but not enough info to go on.

Comments: (serious)

Teufellj...

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Yes there's a way. Getting a hit on the draw right after is a tall order. But there's a way to reduce your combinations and hit consistently.

Provided that your "pivot draw" or the most recent draw is not a triple (i.e. 777, 888), choose any number from that pivot draw. The best pivot draws are the ones with doubles (i.e. 007, 141), in my experience that is. In case of doubles, get the one that has a double! In case of singles (i.e. 123, 071) choose the one that has the SECOND most hits within the last 30 consecutive draws.

That number you've singled out will repeat within 2-4 draws from the pivot. (you can check it yourself, get any 100 consecutive draws and use your program to see how many draws came up where ANY1 number came from the last 2-4draws--- which is 91/100).......... Point is, simply don't bet on your numbers within the next 2 draws. Personally, I don't bet on the 3rd draw as well especially if it hits the first draw.

Now what to do with the number you've singled-out? Let's say its the integer 0 (zero)? Produce 30 combinations, 10combi ordered as ##0, then #0#, and lastly, as 0##. I have a program by Ion Saliu, that's for free, to generate the best pairs from the last 30 draws or so. I always discard that top most, coz as we all know, numbers come out after a certain cycle. For the order ##0, I select the top3 numbers where skip is lower than the median. Each of that number has a great pair less the very first pair. For #0#, I combine with mid range pairs then for 0## the worst pairs.

It's a daunting task, I know. But for just 30 combinations and a 91% chance, I'm sticking with it til it becomes second nature to me. It gives a steady income and for free! I don't have the brains to do the algorithms, so hopefully, someone could devise it in the near future. Haven't seen a software close to what I do. So I'll stick with Parpaluck's DOS programs =)

Sorry, I tried my best to relay to the simpliest way possible.

Hope it helps. Maybe someone could share how to out smart 6/49... the closest I got so far is 45 combinations that sleeps 6 draws after pivot draw and hits 2 hit3s and 1 hit4 within 1-2draws afterwards. I get to hit5 digits only after 86-88 draws. Yeah, I'm willing to share so long as someone has a better strategy.

 

[Teufellj]

Thank you, yelena.au, your comments are most welcome. I will have to sift thru much information before I can pratice any of the other ideas. My program is about 1/3rd. finished and what has been used so far is promising. I will check over your material and see what I can use and incorporate.
Thank you again,

Teufellj...

 

[yelena.au]

Thank you, yelena.au, your comments are most welcome. I will have to sift thru much information before I can pratice any of the other ideas. My program is about 1/3rd. finished and what has been used so far is promising. I will check over your material and see what I can use and incorporate.
Thank you again,

Teufellj...

You're welcome. Just to add: I'm allergic to triples coz they signify a change in system. To what system............ I have no idea!

But for everyone's benefit, I compiled 7 pick-3s with 900 real draws each. Without using filters, just pure observation, I realized that when a the recent combination starts with the numbers 7,8,9, 67% of the time it drops to a lower number for the draw right after, specifically between 6-0, for pos1. only 43% of the time does it sustain another 7,8,9, still for the same pos1. And when the 2 scenarios occur, the chanes of another 7,8,9, for draw3 still at pos1 drops to 12%. I've only seen 2 sets of 4 consecitive draws from the 6300 draws where they were all starting from 7,8,9.

And the converse it true. If the 1st and 2nd draws after the pivot draw doesn't have the 7,8,9, its bound to appear on the 3rd and/4th draw.

For the reasons above I let my strategy sleep for 3 draws. I only bet on the 4th draw and if no staright win, then the 5th draw. No further than that.

Interesting enough, when a draw where pos1 is 7,8,9 the succeeding draws fall within the bell curve. I listed them below in descending order for convenience, they're about 280(?)

6 9 1 - 5 6 1 - 4 2 7 - 2 9 7
6 8 9 - 5 6 0 - 4 2 5 - 2 9 6
6 8 8 - 5 5 9 - 4 2 3 - 2 9 5
6 8 6 - 5 5 5 - 4 2 1 - 2 9 4
6 8 5 - 5 4 8 - 4 2 0 - 2 9 3
6 8 3 - 5 4 7 - 4 1 9 - 2 9 2
6 8 1 - 5 4 6 - 4 1 8 - 2 9 1
6 8 0 - 5 4 5 - 4 1 7 - 2 9 0
6 7 9 - 5 4 3 - 4 1 6 - 2 8 9
6 7 8 - 5 4 1 - 4 1 5 - 2 8 8
6 7 7 - 5 3 9 - 4 1 4 - 2 8 7
6 7 6 - 5 3 8 - 4 1 3 -
6 7 5 - 5 3 7 - 4 1 1 -
6 7 4 - 5 3 6 - 4 0 9 -
6 7 3 - 5 3 5 - 4 0 8 -
6 7 1 - 5 3 4 - 4 0 6 -
6 6 8 - 5 3 3 - 4 0 3 -
6 6 7 - 5 3 2 - 4 0 1 -
6 6 6 - 5 3 1 - 4 0 0 -
6 6 5 - 5 3 0 - 3 9 9 -
6 6 0 - 5 2 9 - 3 9 8 -
6 5 8 - 5 2 8 - 3 9 4 -
6 5 7 - 5 2 7 - 3 9 3 -
6 5 5 - 5 2 5 - 3 9 2 -
6 5 3 - 5 2 4 - 3 9 1 -
6 5 2 - 5 2 3 - 3 9 0 -
6 5 0 - 5 2 2 - 3 8 9 -
6 4 9 - 5 2 1 - 3 8 8 -
6 4 8 - 5 2 0 - 3 8 7 -
6 4 7 - 5 1 8 - 3 8 6 -
6 4 5 - 5 1 6 - 3 8 5 -
6 4 4 - 5 1 5 - 3 8 4 -
6 4 3 - 5 1 4 - 3 8 3 -
6 4 2 - 5 1 3 - 3 8 2 -
6 4 1 - 5 1 2 - 3 8 0 -
6 3 8 - 5 1 1 - 3 7 7 -
6 3 7 - 5 0 8 - 3 7 3 -
6 3 6 - 5 0 7 - 3 7 1 -
6 3 4 - 5 0 4 - 3 7 0 -
6 3 3 - 5 0 3 - 3 6 9 -
6 3 1 - 4 9 8 - 3 6 7 -
6 3 0 - 4 9 7 - 3 6 6 -
6 2 9 - 4 9 6 - 3 6 3 -
6 2 8 - 4 9 5 - 3 6 0 -
6 2 7 - 4 9 4 - 3 5 8 -
6 2 5 - 4 9 2 - 3 5 6 -
6 2 4 - 4 9 1 - 3 5 5 -
6 2 3 - 4 9 0 - 3 5 4 -
6 2 2 - 4 8 8 - 3 5 3 -
6 2 0 - 4 8 4 - 3 5 2 -
6 1 9 - 4 8 3 - 3 5 1 -
6 1 8 - 4 8 2 - 3 5 0 -
6 1 7 - 4 8 1 - 3 4 9 -
6 1 6 - 4 8 0 - 3 4 7 -
6 1 5 - 4 7 9 - 3 4 6 -
6 1 4 - 4 7 8 - 3 4 5 -
6 1 3 - 4 7 7 - 3 4 4 -
6 1 2 - 4 7 6 - 3 4 2 -
6 1 1 - 4 7 5 - 3 4 1 -
6 1 0 - 4 7 1 - 3 3 9 -
6 0 9 - 4 7 0 - 3 3 8 -
6 0 8 - 4 6 8 - 3 3 6 -
6 0 6 - 4 6 6 - 3 3 4 -
6 0 5 - 4 6 4 - 3 3 2 -
6 0 1 - 4 6 3 - 3 3 1 -
5 9 9 - 4 6 2 - 3 3 0 -
5 9 8 - 4 6 0 - 3 2 9 -
5 9 7 - 4 5 9 - 3 2 6 -
5 9 5 - 4 5 7 - 3 2 5 -
5 9 4 - 4 5 6 - 3 2 4 -
5 9 3 - 4 5 4 - 3 2 3 -
5 9 2 - 4 5 3 - 3 2 2 -
5 9 1 - 4 5 2 - 3 2 1 -
5 8 9 - 4 5 1 - 3 2 0 -
5 8 5 - 4 5 0 - 3 1 9 -
5 8 4 - 4 4 9 - 3 1 8 -
5 8 2 - 4 4 8 - 3 1 7 -
5 8 1 - 4 4 6 - 3 1 6 -
5 8 0 - 4 4 5 - 3 1 5 -
5 7 9 - 4 4 3 - 3 1 4 -
5 7 8 - 4 4 2 - 3 1 3 -
5 7 7 - 4 4 1 - 3 1 0 -
5 7 6 - 4 3 9 - 3 0 9 -
5 7 3 - 4 3 8 - 3 0 7 -
5 7 2 - 4 3 6 - 3 0 6 -
5 6 6 - 4 3 5 - 3 0 5 -
5 6 5 - 4 3 4 - 3 0 4 -
5 6 4 - 4 3 1 - 3 0 3 -
5 6 3 - 4 2 9 - 3 0 2 -
5 6 2 - 4 2 8 - 2 9 8 -


in order to choose the 30combinations to play, eliminate numbers that skipped 2 for the first skip and 7 for the second skip. You can use Ion Saliu's SkipSystem.exe so that it will just display the results in a 1KB file. It will give you some 4-5 numbers. Remove any number from the bell curve list above that falls within that 2 and 7skips. The combinations then drops to just around 21-25. You can play it for the 4th and 5th draws after that 7,8,9 draw. And like always, it will produce 1 straight winner and some 3 box winners.

Isn't it beautiful be able to actually forecast the next numbers??? i'm quite amazed that they follow some order. Reminds me of the theory of 6-degrees of affinity. Anyway, you can do back testing. And when you start earning some, share some to the less fortunate.

 

[veronica]

Cannot figure out saliu's website. Downloaded it, but it didn't open to atlantic canada games? How do I find information on it?

regards

You're welcome. Just to add: I'm allergic to triples coz they signify a change in system. To what system............ I have no idea!

But for everyone's benefit, I compiled 7 pick-3s with 900 real draws each. Without using filters, just pure observation, I realized that when a the recent combination starts with the numbers 7,8,9, 67% of the time it drops to a lower number for the draw right after, specifically between 6-0, for pos1. only 43% of the time does it sustain another 7,8,9, still for the same pos1. And when the 2 scenarios occur, the chanes of another 7,8,9, for draw3 still at pos1 drops to 12%. I've only seen 2 sets of 4 consecitive draws from the 6300 draws where they were all starting from 7,8,9.

And the converse it true. If the 1st and 2nd draws after the pivot draw doesn't have the 7,8,9, its bound to appear on the 3rd and/4th draw.

For the reasons above I let my strategy sleep for 3 draws. I only bet on the 4th draw and if no staright win, then the 5th draw. No further than that.

Interesting enough, when a draw where pos1 is 7,8,9 the succeeding draws fall within the bell curve. I listed them below in descending order for convenience, they're about 280(?)

6 9 1 - 5 6 1 - 4 2 7 - 2 9 7
6 8 9 - 5 6 0 - 4 2 5 - 2 9 6
6 8 8 - 5 5 9 - 4 2 3 - 2 9 5
6 8 6 - 5 5 5 - 4 2 1 - 2 9 4
6 8 5 - 5 4 8 - 4 2 0 - 2 9 3
6 8 3 - 5 4 7 - 4 1 9 - 2 9 2
6 8 1 - 5 4 6 - 4 1 8 - 2 9 1
6 8 0 - 5 4 5 - 4 1 7 - 2 9 0
6 7 9 - 5 4 3 - 4 1 6 - 2 8 9
6 7 8 - 5 4 1 - 4 1 5 - 2 8 8
6 7 7 - 5 3 9 - 4 1 4 - 2 8 7
6 7 6 - 5 3 8 - 4 1 3 -
6 7 5 - 5 3 7 - 4 1 1 -
6 7 4 - 5 3 6 - 4 0 9 -
6 7 3 - 5 3 5 - 4 0 8 -
6 7 1 - 5 3 4 - 4 0 6 -
6 6 8 - 5 3 3 - 4 0 3 -
6 6 7 - 5 3 2 - 4 0 1 -
6 6 6 - 5 3 1 - 4 0 0 -
6 6 5 - 5 3 0 - 3 9 9 -
6 6 0 - 5 2 9 - 3 9 8 -
6 5 8 - 5 2 8 - 3 9 4 -
6 5 7 - 5 2 7 - 3 9 3 -
6 5 5 - 5 2 5 - 3 9 2 -
6 5 3 - 5 2 4 - 3 9 1 -
6 5 2 - 5 2 3 - 3 9 0 -
6 5 0 - 5 2 2 - 3 8 9 -
6 4 9 - 5 2 1 - 3 8 8 -
6 4 8 - 5 2 0 - 3 8 7 -
6 4 7 - 5 1 8 - 3 8 6 -
6 4 5 - 5 1 6 - 3 8 5 -
6 4 4 - 5 1 5 - 3 8 4 -
6 4 3 - 5 1 4 - 3 8 3 -
6 4 2 - 5 1 3 - 3 8 2 -
6 4 1 - 5 1 2 - 3 8 0 -
6 3 8 - 5 1 1 - 3 7 7 -
6 3 7 - 5 0 8 - 3 7 3 -
6 3 6 - 5 0 7 - 3 7 1 -
6 3 4 - 5 0 4 - 3 7 0 -
6 3 3 - 5 0 3 - 3 6 9 -
6 3 1 - 4 9 8 - 3 6 7 -
6 3 0 - 4 9 7 - 3 6 6 -
6 2 9 - 4 9 6 - 3 6 3 -
6 2 8 - 4 9 5 - 3 6 0 -
6 2 7 - 4 9 4 - 3 5 8 -
6 2 5 - 4 9 2 - 3 5 6 -
6 2 4 - 4 9 1 - 3 5 5 -
6 2 3 - 4 9 0 - 3 5 4 -
6 2 2 - 4 8 8 - 3 5 3 -
6 2 0 - 4 8 4 - 3 5 2 -
6 1 9 - 4 8 3 - 3 5 1 -
6 1 8 - 4 8 2 - 3 5 0 -
6 1 7 - 4 8 1 - 3 4 9 -
6 1 6 - 4 8 0 - 3 4 7 -
6 1 5 - 4 7 9 - 3 4 6 -
6 1 4 - 4 7 8 - 3 4 5 -
6 1 3 - 4 7 7 - 3 4 4 -
6 1 2 - 4 7 6 - 3 4 2 -
6 1 1 - 4 7 5 - 3 4 1 -
6 1 0 - 4 7 1 - 3 3 9 -
6 0 9 - 4 7 0 - 3 3 8 -
6 0 8 - 4 6 8 - 3 3 6 -
6 0 6 - 4 6 6 - 3 3 4 -
6 0 5 - 4 6 4 - 3 3 2 -
6 0 1 - 4 6 3 - 3 3 1 -
5 9 9 - 4 6 2 - 3 3 0 -
5 9 8 - 4 6 0 - 3 2 9 -
5 9 7 - 4 5 9 - 3 2 6 -
5 9 5 - 4 5 7 - 3 2 5 -
5 9 4 - 4 5 6 - 3 2 4 -
5 9 3 - 4 5 4 - 3 2 3 -
5 9 2 - 4 5 3 - 3 2 2 -
5 9 1 - 4 5 2 - 3 2 1 -
5 8 9 - 4 5 1 - 3 2 0 -
5 8 5 - 4 5 0 - 3 1 9 -
5 8 4 - 4 4 9 - 3 1 8 -
5 8 2 - 4 4 8 - 3 1 7 -
5 8 1 - 4 4 6 - 3 1 6 -
5 8 0 - 4 4 5 - 3 1 5 -
5 7 9 - 4 4 3 - 3 1 4 -
5 7 8 - 4 4 2 - 3 1 3 -
5 7 7 - 4 4 1 - 3 1 0 -
5 7 6 - 4 3 9 - 3 0 9 -
5 7 3 - 4 3 8 - 3 0 7 -
5 7 2 - 4 3 6 - 3 0 6 -
5 6 6 - 4 3 5 - 3 0 5 -
5 6 5 - 4 3 4 - 3 0 4 -
5 6 4 - 4 3 1 - 3 0 3 -
5 6 3 - 4 2 9 - 3 0 2 -
5 6 2 - 4 2 8 - 2 9 8 -


in order to choose the 30combinations to play, eliminate numbers that skipped 2 for the first skip and 7 for the second skip. You can use Ion Saliu's SkipSystem.exe so that it will just display the results in a 1KB file. It will give you some 4-5 numbers. Remove any number from the bell curve list above that falls within that 2 and 7skips. The combinations then drops to just around 21-25. You can play it for the 4th and 5th draws after that 7,8,9 draw. And like always, it will produce 1 straight winner and some 3 box winners.

Isn't it beautiful be able to actually forecast the next numbers??? i'm quite amazed that they follow some order. Reminds me of the theory of 6-degrees of affinity. Anyway, you can do back testing. And when you start earning some, share some to the less fortunate.

 

[Teufellj]

Howdy, veronica, I'll step in for just a second and say that when I need direct info from Ion Saliu, I ask directly. Some where on his websight is a place to get answers. Havn't been there in a while but he will take the time to answer good questions pertaining to anything that he has programmed.

Regards,

Teufellj...