Test runs and lottery software predictions

[mirage]

Iamswamee is correct and makes very good points. It would stand to reason that protocols for lottery drawings exist and are in usage everywhere including some pre or post testing being routine practice for established lotteries. All in aid of ensuring randomness, and so? However, I'm a bit puzzled by certain comments by Shirazbai, ie.:

(Originally quoted by Shirazbai)
.. The only protocol I am aware of though is two sets of balls and a random choice (at draw time) of which set gets used. That protocol alone is bad enough to mess up the data. Adding "phantom" draws would be .... well, let's just say I would then rather just buy scratch tickets.

What have the laws that would apply to physical balls rotating in a physical hopper used in a lottery drawing, no matter however many multiple draws that are done, have to do with (purely?) mathmatical laws? Logically, statistical realities applied to the lotto, would not be affected by balls bouncing in a machine. Lotto is part science, part art (and if you have the stomach for it, I would like to add, part intuition). None of these are clearly understood, of course, but that's what makes it fascinating. Clearly and occasionally a few small crumbs are to be had which somehow seem defy the superficial odds. I would like to believe that slowly ground is being gained. Lotto is a game after all. It is the approach to the game that requires adjustment.

 

[Babarlish]

What have the laws that would apply to physical balls rotating in a physical hopper used in a lottery drawing, no matter however many multiple draws that are done, have to do with (purely?) mathmatical laws?

Hello Mirage,

There are a few laws I have noticed. They might sound totally stupid, but...

The Rio-Catteau machines play pool with 49 balls, but no cue balls.

The pool table is spherical or 3 dimensional compared to a real pool table which is flat only 2 dimensions.

As in a game of pool which starts with a triangle of balls, so the Rio-Catteau machines have the balls loaded the same way in the charger when the machine is ready to start, so, that means its always the same balls that hit the bottom of the machine first. The rest is again like a pool table, but the banks rotate. If there would be a program that can calculate this type of settings and collisions from ball to ball and from the spherical banks, the same way there are computer pool games, then predicting lotto 649 would be easier, meessa think.

Bab

 

[mirage]

The Rio-Catteau machines play pool with 49 balls, but no cue balls.

The pool table is spherical or 3 dimensional compared to a real pool table which is flat only 2 dimensions.

As in a game of pool which starts with a triangle of balls, so the Rio-Catteau machines have the balls loaded the same way in the charger when the machine is ready to start, so, that means its always the same balls that hit the bottom of the machine first. The rest is again like a pool table, but the banks rotate. If there would be a program that can calculate this type of settings and collisions from ball to ball and from the spherical banks, the same way there are computer pool games, then predicting lotto 649 would be easier, meessa think.

Babarlish,

I'm not sure I follow. I doubt that there are any softwares (?however you are aware of something that can provide calculation about pool table game?) - that can predict the fall or trajectory of pool table balls, either of the flat (2nd dimensional) or spherical (Rio-Catteau or whatever)variety. Although the idea is interesting as a concept...

However, that is looking at lotto as a phenomena of physics... not of numbers drawn. Sorry for stating the obvious?

 

[Iamswamee]

Hello lucky winners

Catching up on the thread and wanted to say hello to all us lucky winners. I just know that someone in our group has that Mega Millions winning ticket. Come on, fess up.
Anyway, I did download my stats for the Friday/Sat. draws. But still missing those inbetween draws. Have a good week!! Jennifer

 

[Konrad]

pattern recognition lotto draws

To Iamswanee:
I am trying too to discover patterns in the
historic draws of German lotto 6/49. Actually there are 2728 draws.
Please tell me whether you use for that purpose software on the basis of
artificial neural networks.
If you tell me your email-address we may discuss the difficulties of pattern recognition.

 

[Iamswamee]

Konrad

I use Gail Howard for keeping stats. However, there are glitches in her software that make it not a real good source. I have had more "last digit" totals than could be drawn in a 10 game period. I do stat analysis that are tailored for each game. It allowed me to be on the money with the 3 of 5 and the Powerball for the Calif. draw. The powerball was the shocker as it is very hard to predict. I just do a wing and a prayer. I'd love to discuss patterns with you. However. not sure how to get you my email address without publishing it to the world. So, let me know. Jennifer

 

[Konrad]

To IamSwanee:
I use especially the U.S. software Attra
soft Predictor version 2.8 for searching
for recognition of patterns in the
German lotto 6/49 by using as dataset the past draws. Actually exist 2732 past draws. My experience:
The default setting L.I. 10/5 + or - is the best of all settings. The best results you gain by dividing the 6 numbers of all draws in two parts of only three eighbouring numbers.

Is it possible that you may send me by email the dataset of all draws of one
U.S.lotto 649 company as a MS ACCESS
or EXCEL table? You may be sure that
I don't send your email-address to another person. What for an NN-software you do use?

Konrad

 

[Iamswamee]

email address

Konrad, I don't see your email address anywhere so that I can send you my email address. So, we may be at an impasse. There is no list of member email addresses. Thanks, Jennifer

 

[thornc]

Use LT as a gateway to send stuff among youselves...

Other than that, by the rules of the board emails and other contacts are furbidden!

 

[stevex33]

Not Possible To Pick Winning Numbers, However...

Hi,
I think it's importan that everyone realize, that it is impossible to predict the next numbers that are likely to come out.

This is because the numbers 12, 38, 16, 22, 11 and 47 is just as likely to come out as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

So even if a certain number hasn't EVER come out, it doesn't mean that it is more liekly to next time. It is just as likely as any other number to come out.

However, I have found a system which makes your odds of winning substantially higher.

I won't go into too much detail here, because there are too many benefits to focus on.

Here is the link though:

<<< the usual old lottery affiliate syndicate link deleted >>>

Make sure you check out the 2 movie clips. Lots of information.

Steve

 

[Brad]

virxxxxxxxirect=Syndicate/Affiliate =broken rules=reported

LT is on top of it

... must be reading my mind cuz I haven't hit the report button yet

 

[LT]

Well thanks for your usual dilligence anyhow Brad
If I hadn't seen it now I feel good knowing that you and others would have red flagged it for me.