Sums Charts (Bell Curve Data)
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johnph77
Hey there johnph77,
Most all of the players that I am acquainted with are not of the engineering type and don't understand the concepts behind what a "sine wave" is or it's probable usage in lottery. A pro lottery player is probably way ahead on the "bell curve" theory and the use of the "trough" digits and percentages involved. So in respect to what you are suggesting, it's my belief that you will have a very small following once the average player actually sees the functions and how the distribution of digits are manipulated.
Teufellj....Ohio
Hey there johnph77,
Most all of the players that I am acquainted with are not of the engineering type and don't understand the concepts behind what a "sine wave" is or it's probable usage in lottery. A pro lottery player is probably way ahead on the "bell curve" theory and the use of the "trough" digits and percentages involved. So in respect to what you are suggesting, it's my belief that you will have a very small following once the average player actually sees the functions and how the distribution of digits are manipulated.
Teufellj....Ohio
Sums Charts reply - I'm interested!
hello Johnph77
Re Sums charts - I would be Interested in that kind of data! You have a web page? I thought that kind of information was not to be disclosed in this forum. Anyway, i have been looking into getting a programmer to design different filters, in particular to do what I had previously suggested - finding combos which equal sum of skips. I ran it by one professional macro designer - she referred me to a colleague of hers who has a doctorate in math! Is the query really that complicated? Meanwhile I have a lead on a professional stats analyser who is quite brilliant who said she would try and have a go at it for free, but she is on holiday until next week. I have been looking at bell curves and troughs and I think there is a tendency to this natural phenomena even in the lottery. Also, as I said before, some sums of skips seem to be more likely than others.
hello Johnph77
Re Sums charts - I would be Interested in that kind of data! You have a web page? I thought that kind of information was not to be disclosed in this forum. Anyway, i have been looking into getting a programmer to design different filters, in particular to do what I had previously suggested - finding combos which equal sum of skips. I ran it by one professional macro designer - she referred me to a colleague of hers who has a doctorate in math! Is the query really that complicated? Meanwhile I have a lead on a professional stats analyser who is quite brilliant who said she would try and have a go at it for free, but she is on holiday until next week. I have been looking at bell curves and troughs and I think there is a tendency to this natural phenomena even in the lottery. Also, as I said before, some sums of skips seem to be more likely than others.
Different sums
Peter
Your 191 different sums is right when you consider the sum of all 7 numbers (including the bonus). For the main 6 numbers, not considering the bonus number, there have been 174 different sums.
For 7 numbers, the lowest sum is 48 and the highest one is 284.
For 6 numners. the lowest sum is 45 and the highest one is 263.
Peter
Your 191 different sums is right when you consider the sum of all 7 numbers (including the bonus). For the main 6 numbers, not considering the bonus number, there have been 174 different sums.
For 7 numbers, the lowest sum is 48 and the highest one is 284.
For 6 numners. the lowest sum is 45 and the highest one is 263.
Sums Charts ( Bell Curve Data )
Hi johnph77,
I would also be interested in a chart ( for the Main UK 649 Lotto and UK Daily Play 727 Lotto ) incorporating this data
.
The more information we have at our disposal the better the chance of getting closer to Winning the Jackpot.
I thought there would have been more interest for this.
All the Best
PAB
Hi johnph77,
I would also be interested in a chart ( for the Main UK 649 Lotto and UK Daily Play 727 Lotto ) incorporating this data
.The more information we have at our disposal the better the chance of getting closer to Winning the Jackpot.
I thought there would have been more interest for this.
All the Best
PAB
~~~ Sums Charts ( Bell Curve Data )
Hi Sheba,
Below is a list of the Number of Times for each Total Sum Drawn in the UK Main 649 Lotto ( 872 Draws ). All the others NOT included in the list have yet to be Drawn. The list is Sorted in Times Drawn.
Sum Total Times Drawn
157 17
160 15
146 14
153 14
155 14
118 13
122 13
133 13
140 13
142 12
151 12
161 12
166 12
170 12
180 12
137 11
148 11
150 11
162 11
163 11
127 10
131 10
141 10
152 10
154 10
167 10
169 10
173 10
179 10
112 9
117 9
119 9
125 9
129 9
143 9
174 9
176 9
177 9
178 9
186 9
192 9
200 9
128 8
134 8
138 8
144 8
145 8
149 8
158 8
159 8
171 8
184 8
188 8
168 7
182 7
185 7
193 7
107 6
113 6
120 6
123 6
126 6
132 6
135 6
139 6
147 6
156 6
164 6
183 6
197 6
103 5
105 5
106 5
111 5
115 5
121 5
130 5
175 5
187 5
195 5
204 5
206 5
89 4
95 4
100 4
102 4
114 4
124 4
181 4
190 4
191 4
198 4
199 4
203 4
86 3
90 3
108 3
109 3
172 3
189 3
196 3
205 3
213 3
216 3
218 3
241 3
67 2
68 2
76 2
78 2
81 2
82 2
85 2
92 2
94 2
96 2
98 2
101 2
104 2
110 2
136 2
165 2
201 2
202 2
207 2
212 2
215 2
221 2
228 2
232 2
59 1
61 1
71 1
73 1
74 1
75 1
79 1
80 1
83 1
91 1
93 1
97 1
99 1
116 1
194 1
210 1
211 1
217 1
222 1
223 1
226 1
233 1
238 1
242 1
243 1
245 1
All the Best
PAB
Hi Sheba,
Below is a list of the Number of Times for each Total Sum Drawn in the UK Main 649 Lotto ( 872 Draws ). All the others NOT included in the list have yet to be Drawn. The list is Sorted in Times Drawn.
Sum Total Times Drawn
157 17
160 15
146 14
153 14
155 14
118 13
122 13
133 13
140 13
142 12
151 12
161 12
166 12
170 12
180 12
137 11
148 11
150 11
162 11
163 11
127 10
131 10
141 10
152 10
154 10
167 10
169 10
173 10
179 10
112 9
117 9
119 9
125 9
129 9
143 9
174 9
176 9
177 9
178 9
186 9
192 9
200 9
128 8
134 8
138 8
144 8
145 8
149 8
158 8
159 8
171 8
184 8
188 8
168 7
182 7
185 7
193 7
107 6
113 6
120 6
123 6
126 6
132 6
135 6
139 6
147 6
156 6
164 6
183 6
197 6
103 5
105 5
106 5
111 5
115 5
121 5
130 5
175 5
187 5
195 5
204 5
206 5
89 4
95 4
100 4
102 4
114 4
124 4
181 4
190 4
191 4
198 4
199 4
203 4
86 3
90 3
108 3
109 3
172 3
189 3
196 3
205 3
213 3
216 3
218 3
241 3
67 2
68 2
76 2
78 2
81 2
82 2
85 2
92 2
94 2
96 2
98 2
101 2
104 2
110 2
136 2
165 2
201 2
202 2
207 2
212 2
215 2
221 2
228 2
232 2
59 1
61 1
71 1
73 1
74 1
75 1
79 1
80 1
83 1
91 1
93 1
97 1
99 1
116 1
194 1
210 1
211 1
217 1
222 1
223 1
226 1
233 1
238 1
242 1
243 1
245 1
All the Best
PAB
Sums Charts ( Bell Curve Data )
Hi Sheba,
Below is a list of the Number of Times for each Total Sum Drawn in the Canadian 649 Lotto ( 2,116 Draws ). All the others NOT included in the list have yet to be Drawn. The list is Sorted in Times Drawn.
Sum Total Times Drawn
143 36
142 35
153 34
165 30
172 30
151 29
152 29
126 28
141 28
149 28
150 28
161 28
146 27
148 27
158 27
128 26
167 26
171 26
136 25
139 25
154 25
155 25
160 25
138 24
147 24
157 24
163 24
180 24
121 23
135 23
140 23
159 23
169 23
170 23
156 22
176 22
120 21
124 21
175 21
181 21
182 21
137 20
164 20
174 20
187 20
130 19
134 19
162 19
168 19
109 18
119 18
131 18
144 18
166 18
177 18
127 17
145 17
173 17
122 16
123 16
125 16
129 16
192 16
194 16
197 16
98 15
114 15
133 15
183 15
190 15
195 14
205 14
132 13
178 13
189 13
99 12
179 12
184 12
185 12
193 12
203 12
209 12
96 11
104 11
110 11
115 11
188 11
100 10
105 10
108 10
88 9
113 9
117 9
118 9
186 9
196 9
198 9
200 9
95 8
101 8
103 8
111 8
112 8
116 7
201 7
202 7
204 7
90 6
93 6
97 6
102 6
107 6
210 6
211 6
83 5
87 5
199 5
206 5
207 5
208 5
216 5
91 4
92 4
106 4
191 4
213 4
218 4
219 4
224 4
225 4
228 4
79 3
89 3
94 3
212 3
222 3
223 3
68 2
71 2
72 2
82 2
84 2
220 2
221 2
227 2
231 2
236 2
238 2
247 2
45 1
53 1
55 1
56 1
61 1
62 1
69 1
70 1
73 1
74 1
75 1
76 1
78 1
80 1
85 1
86 1
214 1
215 1
217 1
226 1
230 1
232 1
235 1
240 1
263 1
All the Best
PAB
Hi Sheba,
Below is a list of the Number of Times for each Total Sum Drawn in the Canadian 649 Lotto ( 2,116 Draws ). All the others NOT included in the list have yet to be Drawn. The list is Sorted in Times Drawn.
Sum Total Times Drawn
143 36
142 35
153 34
165 30
172 30
151 29
152 29
126 28
141 28
149 28
150 28
161 28
146 27
148 27
158 27
128 26
167 26
171 26
136 25
139 25
154 25
155 25
160 25
138 24
147 24
157 24
163 24
180 24
121 23
135 23
140 23
159 23
169 23
170 23
156 22
176 22
120 21
124 21
175 21
181 21
182 21
137 20
164 20
174 20
187 20
130 19
134 19
162 19
168 19
109 18
119 18
131 18
144 18
166 18
177 18
127 17
145 17
173 17
122 16
123 16
125 16
129 16
192 16
194 16
197 16
98 15
114 15
133 15
183 15
190 15
195 14
205 14
132 13
178 13
189 13
99 12
179 12
184 12
185 12
193 12
203 12
209 12
96 11
104 11
110 11
115 11
188 11
100 10
105 10
108 10
88 9
113 9
117 9
118 9
186 9
196 9
198 9
200 9
95 8
101 8
103 8
111 8
112 8
116 7
201 7
202 7
204 7
90 6
93 6
97 6
102 6
107 6
210 6
211 6
83 5
87 5
199 5
206 5
207 5
208 5
216 5
91 4
92 4
106 4
191 4
213 4
218 4
219 4
224 4
225 4
228 4
79 3
89 3
94 3
212 3
222 3
223 3
68 2
71 2
72 2
82 2
84 2
220 2
221 2
227 2
231 2
236 2
238 2
247 2
45 1
53 1
55 1
56 1
61 1
62 1
69 1
70 1
73 1
74 1
75 1
76 1
78 1
80 1
85 1
86 1
214 1
215 1
217 1
226 1
230 1
232 1
235 1
240 1
263 1
All the Best
PAB
johnph77
Member
Sorry for slow reply - on road, will be until 20 May.
Sum chart: http://www.johnph77.com/math/lotsum.html
VERY rudimentary at this time, but 7/27 and 6/49 games, as well as Pick 3 and 4, are included. Probably won't be on a very high priority for further development for quite a while, but if there's a game anyone would like to see computed and included in this manner let me know and I'll get it posted as soon as possible.
gl
john
Sum chart: http://www.johnph77.com/math/lotsum.html
VERY rudimentary at this time, but 7/27 and 6/49 games, as well as Pick 3 and 4, are included. Probably won't be on a very high priority for further development for quite a while, but if there's a game anyone would like to see computed and included in this manner let me know and I'll get it posted as soon as possible.
gl
john
johnph77
Member
New Page Address
PAB -
Correction made. Thanks again.
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PAB, mirage -
Page address and format has changed, mostly due to other format content being plagiarized and quoted without credit in the old positional frequency page. The format on the old sum chart page was similar. Main disadvantage is that new page is vastly larger (4MB) due to total structure inclusion, but that difference will disappear as formats and data for same are added. No new games added as yet, but that has moved up a little in priority.
New address: http://www.johnph77.com/math/lotsum2.html
Accessible from Math index page.
gl
john
PAB -
Correction made. Thanks again.
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PAB, mirage -
Page address and format has changed, mostly due to other format content being plagiarized and quoted without credit in the old positional frequency page. The format on the old sum chart page was similar. Main disadvantage is that new page is vastly larger (4MB) due to total structure inclusion, but that difference will disappear as formats and data for same are added. No new games added as yet, but that has moved up a little in priority.
New address: http://www.johnph77.com/math/lotsum2.html
Accessible from Math index page.
gl
john
Re: New Page Address
johnph77 said:PAB -
Correction made. Thanks again.
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PAB, mirage -
Page address and format has changed, mostly due to other format content being plagiarized and quoted without credit in the old positional frequency page. The format on the old sum chart page was similar. Main disadvantage is that new page is vastly larger (4MB) due to total structure inclusion, but that difference will disappear as formats and data for same are added. No new games added as yet, but that has moved up a little in priority.
New address: http://www.johnph77.com/math/lotsum2.html
Thank you johnph77!
johnph77
Member
powerball -
Owing to the previously-mentioned plagiarism, the only way I can make the page smaller is to split it up, possibly into the individual number of picks (all 7/xx games for instance), and I chose not to do that at this time. If you have need of information on specific games Email me and I'll be glad to send same to you. I will take that into consideration should I receive further comments to that effect.
all -
The positional frequency page has also been updated, adding an internal link chart to individual games as in the sum chart. Both pages can be seen from:
http://www.johnph77.com/math/
Thanks for your comments. I'm going to take a few days off from this project, work calls.....
Owing to the previously-mentioned plagiarism, the only way I can make the page smaller is to split it up, possibly into the individual number of picks (all 7/xx games for instance), and I chose not to do that at this time. If you have need of information on specific games Email me and I'll be glad to send same to you. I will take that into consideration should I receive further comments to that effect.
all -
The positional frequency page has also been updated, adding an internal link chart to individual games as in the sum chart. Both pages can be seen from:
http://www.johnph77.com/math/
Thanks for your comments. I'm going to take a few days off from this project, work calls.....