Still looking to put together macro for sum of skips!

[gsobier]

...a friend plays Ontario 49, I'm working on 6/49... ...I test and develop for 6/49 and then try it out in Ontario 49 to make sure I'm not getting fooled with flukes...

Well, at least we will miss that weather , this winter again I might bet...missing some snow somethimes though...

BTW, havent seen that much winneres in that 49 of yours. Gotta improve your strategies a bit, I guess..

 

[tomtom]

...a friend plays Ontario 49, I'm working on 6/49... ...I test my and develop stuff in 6/49 and then try it out in Ontario 49 to make sure I'm not getting fooled with flukes...

Well, wish you luck...I'll probably try that 7/47 very soon despite the odds, or might switch to some entertaining cassino games with fair odds...if they decide to stay with $2 per line in 6/49. $2 per line is way too much in my opinion ..

Don't even see those nice grannies waiting in line to buy only one line with their lifetime treasured numbers any more...and that makes me mad in some way..they deserved a chaces for some dreams..

Well, really wonder what will Snides decide regarding that little macro... It seems it's a pretty hard decision.....

 

[gsobier]

...the HELL with Stoopid 7... ...Ontario is forced to take 2 Quick Picks for every $2... ...the odds and prizes for that game suck anyway!... ...if Snides didn't post it by now, I wouldn't hold your breath...

Well, wish you luck...I'll probably try that 7/47 very soon, or might switch to some entertaining cassino games with fair odds...if they decide to stay with $2 per line in 6/49. $2 per line is way too much in my opinion regarding the odds..

Well, really wonder what will Snides decide regarding that little macro... It seems it's a pretty hard decision.....

 

[mirage]

...the HELL with Stoopid 7... ...Ontario is forced to take 2 Quick Picks for every $2... ...the odds and prizes for that game suck anyway!... ...if Snides didn't post it by now, I wouldn't hold your breath...

(Excuse me for speculating Snides)
Snides is probably working on making his program much more comprehensive and refined as time and health permit. Snides is one generous dude. TT, you will have to wait I guess.

It is so ironic - I asked for a program that would do what Snides has made available and it works for everyone but me. But it's Ok, really, because I can't afford to play a Kajillion lines anyway, so I find other ways to produce lines, and Snides has given me 2 useful features - one to check the sum of skips for each line, and 2, once the program is updated, scan through the sums of skips in the history to make a guestimate as to what aprox. range I think the sum of skips will hit in next. (Don't need a fancy graph). As for my idea about choosing one sum i.e. 30, or 35, or 46 or whatever, I guess my naivete got quashed re that.

Having this environment where we all share (trial and error & learning) is what makes this board so awesome. By the way TT, you mentioned something about having an idea similar to the idea of sum of skips a while ago but you never described what it was. Care to elaborate? It might be interesting. Start a new thread if you think it should be separate topic of discussion.

gsobier, read your posts of couple pages back but I've been away from computers so long, I feel I have nothing meaningful to contribute or discuss, other than to tell you I found it interesting.

 

[tomtom]

TT, you will have to wait I guess.

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Having this environment where we all share (trial and error & learning) is what makes this board so awesome. By the way TT, you mentioned something about having an idea similar to the idea of sum of skips a while ago but you never described what it was. Care to elaborate? It might be interesting. Start a new thread if you think it should be separate topic of discussion.

Mirage, some people don't need to depend on somebody’s willingness to share a 15 lines macro. I'm not one that waits at all, but at least since this thread takes all the time some space at the board, it would be fair that not me or Gsobier, but some other players have at least an opportunity to try that for which this very long thread was intended for. At this board are quite many players that do not play ON/49 and such, so it is pretty strange if a program is intended for a very small group of people . The only difference is possibility for an easy accesible database. Hiding an access to numbers database, and making some possible updates only for a few certain lotteries, without a reason? And in that case , without a small macro that is only maybe 0.5% of the whole thing?…Well, there must be a BIG reson for that.....and that's about sharing.

It's a sad thing that about the same time you started this thread, I asked for a totally different, but wery long and really powerful macro at some programming forum..Those gays were willing to make it, since it was their hobby(and possibly profession), and share with me and anybody who was interested in it , in less than a few hours....that's about sharing, too.


This idea about sums of skips is very old and when you started this thread many people including me told you that you will have many thousands resulting lines to deal with...whatever sum you use..
My ( and it was not actually my ) ideas were to deal further with number of possible same skips in the draw, and with number of different possible skips from one column only looking at the coldest number in that column, which actually has more with positioning. If the sum of skips was some number, that doesn't mean at all that all the skips are actually from different columns in your databse..

 

[tomtom]

About a real sharing at this Forum see here

 

[gsobier]

Mirage:

No problem, you can just keep reading... ...you'll catch on (we hope)... ...as for Snides, he might be sick again. I was chatting with him in MSN last week. He has some new ideas to get his program to work properly. There were too many loop-holes in it which yields unexpected results... ...when he posts again, we will see.

Regards,
George

Snides is probably working on making his program much more comprehensive and refined as time and health permit. Snides is one generous dude. TT, you will have to wait I guess.

gsobier, read your posts of couple pages back but I've been away from computers so long, I feel I have nothing meaningful to contribute or discuss, other than to tell you I found it interesting.

 

[mirage]

(Originally posted by tomtom)

This idea about sums of skips is very old and when you started this thread many people including me told you that you will have many thousands resulting lines to deal with...whatever sum you use..
My ( and it was not actually my ) ideas were to deal further with number of possible same skips in the draw, and with number of different possible skips from one column only looking at the coldest number in that column, which actually has more with positioning. If the sum of skips was some number, that doesn't mean at all that all the skips are actually from different columns in your databse..

Well, tomtom, it wasn't very old to some people because when I first asked about it, I had to explain it again and again, to different people, including what appeared to be seasoned lotto players on this board. Maybe it was very old to you, but everybody has different ideas and approach to lotto. Everybody is entitled to their own strategy. I guess one thing I've learned is it can be a waste of time to be stuck on one way of looking at lottery. You can always change course and try a different strategy. You can also discuss endlessly with others which is best way to approach lotto and you will find others who agree in part, whole or not at all.

Reading your above idea, not sure what you mean by "column", (column -in what database, the history file?...) possible same skips and differents skips I understand I think, and positioning too, but the last sentense, (forgive me for being dense), "If the sum of skips was some number, that doesn't mean that all the skips are actually from different columns in your database." - I don't understand your point here. Of course the the skips are almost always from different columns in database. It sounds as if you are looking for patterns in skips in the database columns??

And I did read the other link where there was a macro posted by another board member a long time ago who I haven't seen around for awhile. Why are you disgruntled when this program is very specific purpose? If other, programming forum was willing to give you long, complicated macro, and you want this little one, then why not go back to that other forum and put in request to them?

tomtom, people do things for reasons which may not seem fair or logical. I had to fight for what I did get, and I got lucky. Nobody else was going to give me this program on this board, some maybe most even laughed at me. I just happened to run into Snides. But Snides is probably not done yet. His other, wheeling program took him a while to complete. You say you are not one to be patient - well maybe lotto is wrong game for you in that case, because first of all lotto - unless you are quik pik type - does require lots and lots of patience, and work besides. No free lunch in that department, no kidding!!

 

[Snides]

Try this Mirage

click here for the program updater.

I've removed the "current skip for #" stuff from the textbox that shows the wheeled tickets, so if the program wheels tickets for you, they will be the first thing you see in this box..

Made several other changes too.. most of which you won't see, lots of error-traps set up, but there are probably more that could be done.

If this still won't produce tickets for you I'll work on it some more when I have time and feel up to it.. I've had some pretty nasty headaches off and on for the last week or so.. I think I might try to get an appt. with my doc before this CT scan to see if I should be taking some anti-B's along with the nasonex. I was reading the infomation with the spray and it says I shouldn't take it if there is an infection that is not being treated at the same time, and I think that might be part of my problem..

Hope this works for you.. I'm beat, and going to bed..

 

[mirage]

Try this Mirage

click here for the program updater.

I've removed the "current skip for #" stuff from the textbox that shows the wheeled tickets, so if the program wheels tickets for you, they will be the first thing you see in this box..

Made several other changes too.. most of which you won't see, lots of error-traps set up, but there are probably more that could be done.

If this still won't produce tickets for you I'll work on it some more when I have time and feel up to it.. I've had some pretty nasty headaches off and on for the last week or so.. I think I might try to get an appt. with my doc before this CT scan to see if I should be taking some anti-B's along with the nasonex. I was reading the infomation with the spray and it says I shouldn't take it if there is an infection that is not being treated at the same time, and I think that might be part of my problem..

Hope this works for you.. I'm beat, and going to bed..

Hello Snides,
Hope you are going to see doctor and will feel better soon. Thanks for continuing to work on the program. Please don't feel you have to work on it if you are still not feeling healthy.

I downloaded it. Extracted files from update. Set up went really fast & smoothly. Used last draw for Lottario and left settings just as they were as all seemed to fit. Got 'run time error 9 - suscript out of range' and list of skips within a few seconds i.e. no lines.
Later today will try again, skips range loosened up (used 63 for skip value only) and will try it on On 6/49. (Have to get ready to rush off now.)

 

[mirage]

Good Evening Snides!
Hope your health is better than yesterday, that you are not in pain or discomfort and your energy is much better today.
The program worked!!!

(The run time error was my fault - I was in a rush earlier today and put in wrong settings).
It also still displays the skips for each number first, but that's OK by me. There was not an unmanageably large number of ticket lines produced for the rather narrow range I used - 62 to 65.
It also did this interesting thing of displaying the numbers of tickets for the high end of the distribution curb for the sum skips. For some of the high end sum skips there were only something like 5 or 10 ticket lines.... (Hmmm. If one has the patience, there's a strategy right there.)
Thank You, Snides, It's Grreaaat!!!

 

[gsobier]

Mirage:

I guess my little bit of time spent chatting with Snides in MSN paid off. There are loop-holes you have found, he will need to close so you get output as expected without problems.

Regards,
George

Good Evening Snides!
Hope your health is better than yesterday, that you are not in pain or discomfort and your energy is much better today.
The program worked!!!

(The run time error was my fault - I was in a rush earlier today and put in wrong settings).
It also still displays the skips for each number first, but that's OK by me. There was not an unmanageably large number of ticket lines produced for the rather narrow range I used - 62 to 65.
It also did this interesting thing of displaying the numbers of tickets for the high end of the distribution curb for the sum skips. For some of the high end sum skips there were only something like 5 or 10 ticket lines.... (Hmmm. If one has the patience, there's a strategy right there.)
Thank You, Snides, It's Grreaaat!!!

 

[mirage]

Mirage:

I guess my little bit of time spent chatting with Snides in MSN paid off. There are loop-holes you have found, he will need to close so you get output as expected without problems.

Regards,
George

[color=royal blue]Yes, George, thank you also for your help! Much, much appreciated, believe me!![/color]

 

[gsobier]

Mirage:

Just a few ideas and questions from me in the right direction makes a difference.

I'm sure you will find some ways to break it... ...remember how you did, so it can be fixed.

There is a law/rule I preach "If you can't see it, you can't fix it"... ...being able re-creating the failure is the best way to help the programmer... ...the more vague reports usually go unfixed until something else turns up to lead the programmer to discover the root cause.

From the last contact with Snides, he was trying out some stuff to make it more reliable and also more portable. I'm not sure what he decided to do in the end.

Regards,
George

[color=royal blue]Yes, George, thank you also for your help! Much, much appreciated, believe me!![/color]

 

[Snides]

Originally posted by mirage
Good Evening Snides!
Hope your health is better than yesterday, that you are not in pain or discomfort and your energy is much better today.
The program worked!!!

Finally, That makes me feel much better I downloaded it at work today and tried it out there, it worked for me too!
[color= blue]
It also still displays the skips for each number first, but that's OK by me.[/color]

It shouldn't be doing that, i think you may be running an older version of it.. or maybe I saved the exe's before removing that function.. I'll have to check. You can tell if it's the latest version if you try to type a letter in any of the textboxes where you are supposed to enter numbers, it won't recognize anything other than a number key..

Thank You, Snides, It's Grreaaat!!!

I'm happy that you have finally seen it in action, and that you can see what it is capable of doing to help you.

 

[mirage]

Snides! George! I've looking and waiting for this idea to be possible for 7 years! And now it's done!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!


(Originally posted by gsobier)
Just a few ideas and questions from me in the right direction makes a difference.

I'm sure you will find some ways to break it... ...remember how you did, so it can be fixed.

There is a law/rule I preach "If you can't see it, you can't fix it"... ...being able re-creating the failure is the best way to help the programmer... ...the more vague reports usually go unfixed until something else turns up to lead the programmer to discover the root cause.

George, I probably wont break it. If I do, I will try to remember how I broke it.

(Originally posted by gsobier)
...From the last contact with Snides, he was trying out some stuff to make it more reliable and also more portable. I'm not sure what he decided to do in the end.

This is just the beginning of something big!!! Good Luck and Thanks again!

 

[gsobier]

Mirage:

Its Snides program... ...I just helped it along a tiny little bit. I'm sure you will find ways to break it... ...the more you can explain exactly, the better change it will be fixed if the programmer is willing and able.

Regards,
George

Snides! George! I've looking and waiting for this idea to be possible for 7 years! And now it's done!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!


(Originally posted by gsobier)
Just a few ideas and questions from me in the right direction makes a difference.

I'm sure you will find some ways to break it... ...remember how you did, so it can be fixed.

There is a law/rule I preach "If you can't see it, you can't fix it"... ...being able re-creating the failure is the best way to help the programmer... ...the more vague reports usually go unfixed until something else turns up to lead the programmer to discover the root cause.

George, I probably wont break it. If I do, I will try to remember how I broke it.

(Originally posted by gsobier)
...From the last contact with Snides, he was trying out some stuff to make it more reliable and also more portable. I'm not sure what he decided to do in the end.

This is just the beginning of something big!!! Good Luck and Thanks again!

 

[snozberries]

All I know is that the more tickets you have the better your odds of winning. I'm going to get 160 tickets a month for the California State Super Lotto for just 24 bucks at 20chances.

Group play is the only way to go, heck that's how I hit the jackpot the first time!- -In a lottery pool at work!

 

[mirage]

All I know is that the more tickets you have the better your odds of winning. I'm going to get 160 tickets a month for the California State Super Lotto for just 24 bucks at 20chances.

Group play is the only way to go, heck that's how I hit the jackpot the first time!- -In a lottery pool at work!

snozberries,

Seems like you want to talk. Want to tell us more? I don't know about the 24 bucks at 20 chances though - we don't encourage that kind of thing around here. Don't post a site please!

 

[mirage]

Hello Snides,

Just FYI, You get a run time error if you try to enter text into a settings box. Box displays the text but program craps out.
I'm still very happy, whatever! The program is beautiful as far as I'm concerned!

Do you think it's time to close out this thread finally?