Still looking to put together macro for sum of skips!

[michael168]

Michael, I have no idea what you're talking about, i did not receieve any email from you, unless you sent those emails about mortgages being at their lowest rate ever..

Hi! Snides,

I do send you the email using the address from your website.

xxxxxx.at.ionline.net using xxxxxx just for your privacy purpose.

Basically the contents of the email are as below:

1) Your group filters must keep because it reduces lot of lines. If it can make to modify or delete the group filters when wrongly choose then it will be much better instead of restarting the program.
2) Your odd/even can change to how many odds needed, e.g. Odd = 2 to 4. Once it is in this type of filter, we do three conditions in one go. i.e. 2 odd / 4 even , 3 odd / 3 even , 4 odd / 2 even.
3) How many number of nos to keep in a line from a specific noumber, e.g. from No# >=22 keep 4. This means that any line must contains 4 nos that are greater or equal to 22.
4) Increase the Filter by sum range conditions to two e.g. from 21 to 75 & 100 to 110. In this case the program rejects all the lines also for the sum from 76 to 99 as well. Instead of key in 21 to 110, it will keep the sum range 76 to 99.
5)Where as for the decades I think it is better to be like this e.g. Decade = 1 to 3. Enable the user to set the decade range like decade 1 = 1 to 9 or 1 to 10, decade 2 = 10 to 19 or 11 to 20 , decade 3 = 20 to 29 or 21 to 30 , decade 4 = 30 to 39 or 31 to 40 , decade 5 = 40 to 49 or 41 to 49.

I am not trying to pull your leg but just to express some of the filters conditions.

Regards,
Michael

 

[mirage]

Hello Snides,

Your webside link must be either buried in the long ago postings of somewhere, or, Michael has obtained it through other means. Anyway, I don't know what you think. More rewriting/testing for you maybe. Some of these points might be worthwhile and
since it's kind of my program I thought I should make some comment.
Michael point #1 - I'm sure you know what you are doing so why is this guy telling you?
Michael point #2 - If this filter could be kept flexible is good of course, but Michael's way would screen out a lot of possible hits, would it not?
Point #3 How many number of nos to keep in a line from a specific noumber, e.g. from No# >=22 keep 4. This means that any line must contains 4 nos that are greater or equal to 22.
How about 3> than 20? Is this a whole other filter suggestion that was overlooked? It's a good one, but Michael's 4 > than 22 is too high, imo.
Point #4 Increase the Filter by sum range conditions to two e.g. from 21 to 75 & 100 to 110. In this case the program rejects all the lines also for the sum from 76 to 99 as well. Instead of key in 21 to 110, it will keep the sum range 76 to 99. He's confusing sums and skip sums? Or is this just a technical strategy? What's he talking about? If skip sums, do you see an advantage to keeping sum 76 to 99? Having looked at skip sums, I don't. Otherwise, regular sum would be all over the place to higher ranges, of course.
Point #5 Would prefer to keep the decades as 1 to 9 (single digits), 10 to 19, 20 to 29, etc. Do you see a point to changing to his filter, i.e. 1 to 10, etc? Again, I don't.

Hi! Snides,

I do send you the email using the address from your website.

xxxxxx.at.ionline.net using xxxxxx just for your privacy purpose.

Basically the contents of the email are as below:

1) Your group filters must keep because it reduces lot of lines. If it can make to modify or delete the group filters when wrongly choose then it will be much better instead of restarting the program.
2) Your odd/even can change to how many odds needed, e.g. Odd = 2 to 4. Once it is in this type of filter, we do three conditions in one go. i.e. 2 odd / 4 even , 3 odd / 3 even , 4 odd / 2 even.
3) How many number of nos to keep in a line from a specific noumber, e.g. from No# >=22 keep 4. This means that any line must contains 4 nos that are greater or equal to 22.
4) Increase the Filter by sum range conditions to two e.g. from 21 to 75 & 100 to 110. In this case the program rejects all the lines also for the sum from 76 to 99 as well. Instead of key in 21 to 110, it will keep the sum range 76 to 99.
5)Where as for the decades I think it is better to be like this e.g. Decade = 1 to 3. Enable the user to set the decade range like decade 1 = 1 to 9 or 1 to 10, decade 2 = 10 to 19 or 11 to 20 , decade 3 = 20 to 29 or 21 to 30 , decade 4 = 30 to 39 or 31 to 40 , decade 5 = 40 to 49 or 41 to 49.

I am not trying to pull your leg but just to express some of the filters conditions.

Regards,
Michael

Just some input. Sorry if this is creating more work and headaches! Thanks!

 

[Snides]

holy, this site is finally working up to speed again!

that ionline mail thing is so old.. they leave my old website up and they havn't been my isp for 5 years or so... so, no, i didn't get any email.. and the portion of my website that you saw is just as old.. I guess I should update it someday..

I agree with #1, I would like to add that feature of groups on/off at some point.. havn't had time yet..

not sure what #2 with the odd/even is about.. when it is set at 2/4, it does 2/4, 3/3, and 4/2.. it actually only checks the odd numbers, or is it just the even that it checks? either way, same thing..

for #3, it is a group filtering program.. you can pick all the numbers you want to use from 22 up and set the min/max for that group to 4/4 and you'll get exactly 4 numbers >= 22

for #4, you want a low and high filter range for the sums? so that you can take out all the middle sums (sum of all numbers, not skip sums).. I guess I could add that in, though I don't know how often I'd use it myself.. but it is a good suggestion, Thanks.

for #5, I don't like grouping the decades that way.. but it likely wouldn't be hard to do.. that'll be the last thing on my list of things to change/add to the program though..

 

[mirage]

I agree with #1, I would like to add that feature of groups on/off at some point.. havn't had time yet..

not sure what #2 with the odd/even is about.. when it is set at 2/4, it does 2/4, 3/3, and 4/2.. it actually only checks the odd numbers, or is it just the even that it checks? either way, same thing..

for #3, it is a group filtering program.. you can pick all the numbers you want to use from 22 up and set the min/max for that group to 4/4 and you'll get exactly 4 numbers >= 22

for #4, you want a low and high filter range for the sums? so that you can take out all the middle sums (sum of all numbers, not skip sums).. I guess I could add that in, though I don't know how often I'd use it myself.. but it is a good suggestion, Thanks.

for #5, I don't like grouping the decades that way.. but it likely wouldn't be hard to do.. that'll be the last thing on my list of things to change/add to the program though..

Hello Snides,

Ok, #1 point thought that was covered but it's not really essential, is it, even if not.
#2 point, no I guess I didn't know what he was taking about either I just took a guess but that's also been taken care of as you say, anyway.
#3 This is flexible, yes? 6/49 has tended to be on the high side, but not Ont 49 from what I can see...
#4 Personally would not use much - up to you.
#5 Can we please keep the decades the usual way, i.e. 1 to 9, single digits only, 10 to 19, etc. as i've been keeping stats that way forever! If you feel a need to change the decades yourself, can youu leeave aas laaaasst thhiiinnng ttoo dooooo onnn yooouur liissst foorr soomedaaay, but post the program first??? Sure there's a number missing for 1st decade and is incomplete, but with 49 #s, last decade missing # anyway. I think (not sure though) that most people have been keeping stats the same way I do.
Thank you! Thank you! Sorry if I'm asking to much, Program was sounding great before! Surely it must be just about done by now!.. No need to mess around more with what was already looking like a great product....!, but of course it's up to you.

 

[michael168]

Hello! Snides,

Sorry I use your the odd email address. As for the filters conditions that I proposed are just to let the inputs be more flexible. For e.g. regarding to the odd/even instead of making odd/even = 2 & 4 why not let them be odd/odd = 2 to 4 as this will include even/even = 4 to 2 as well.

So the same apply to all the filters conditions. In another word instead of hardcoded in the program makes them more flexible by let letting the user to input and get the wheeling done.

Thanks & Regards,
Michael.

 

[mirage]

Hello! Snides,

Sorry I use your the odd email address. As for the filters conditions that I proposed are just to let the inputs be more flexible. For e.g. regarding to the odd/even instead of making odd/even = 2 & 4 why not let them be odd/odd = 2 to 4 as this will include even/even = 4 to 2 as well.

So the same apply to all the filters conditions. In another word instead of hardcoded in the program makes them more flexible by let letting the user to input and get the wheeling done.

Thanks & Regards,
Michael.

Michael168,

Yes, of course. Hopefully this is not much more extra work for our hardworking Snides! We are asking a lot of him already. All this and all I really wanted was, 1) a way to get list of sum of skips for a skip sum or a range of skip sums, and 2) about half a dozen or so simple filters, i.e. hot/cold, decades, etc.

 

[Snides]

Hey Mirage..

Yer program isn't quite ready, I've got a bit of work to do on it yet.. Good news is that as of Saturday at 5:00 I'm on 2 weeks holidays, so I'll be sure to get it done sometime within a week..

As a teaser, I'm going to post a Screen Shot of how it looks at the moment.. not all items shown are active yet, but they will be soon, and I have a few more things to add..

However, you can take a look at a screenshot of it by clicking here

Let me know how it looks, and if it looks easy to figure out.. I still have to add the option to update the database so that you can do that yourself.. Features that aren't active yet are last digits and diagonals..

and if the colours don't suit your tastes.. lemme know your favorite colours

 

[tomtom]

Hey Mirage..

Yer program isn't quite ready, I've got a bit of work to do on it yet.. Good news is that as of Saturday at 5:00 I'm on 2 weeks holidays, so I'll be sure to get it done sometime within a week..

As a teaser, I'm going to post a Screen Shot of how it looks at the moment.. not all items shown are active yet, but they will be soon, and I have a few more things to add..

However, you can take a look at a screenshot of it by clicking here

Let me know how it looks, and if it looks easy to figure out.. I still have to add the option to update the database so that you can do that yourself.. Features that aren't active yet are last digits and diagonals..

and if the colours don't suit your tastes.. lemme know your favorite colours

Well, the colors are quite nice..and the progie looks really powerful, beyond any doubts.. The superior
one....

 

[mirage]

Hello Snides,
Re prog. - WOW! and holy moly!
Looks powerful, complex but not as complicated as some. It looks pretty easy to figure out from what I can tell. However, screen shot resolution not entirely clear for my screen. Colours - fine. Blues are always good.
Yep, definitely need way to update databases, and to load entirely new databases. I will not be using this on Can 6/49 (until I've bagged my million$ - heh! heh!) - because you know, still a lot of combos and they raised the price. So flexibility for different lotteries would be - essential for my purposes.
Once a database is loaded, will there be a way to enter a line of combo of 6 for prog. to check the skip sum (of that line)?
If questions or problems crop up will you still be available to answer any questions? (What a responsibility!)
Well I should think after all this work you are owed at least one big jackpot. A cash
Thanks hugely!

 

[Snides]

Yep, definitely need way to update databases, and to load entirely new databases. I will not be using this on Can 6/49

Once a database is loaded, will there be a way to enter a line of combo of 6 for prog. to check the skip sum (of that line)?

If questions or problems crop up will you still be available to answer any questions? (What a responsibility!)

won't be a way to select which lotto before running program.. at least not in the new future.. I'll make two programs for you, one to do 6/49 and one to do ON/49.. easy enough to do.. and if the lottario info becomes available I'll do one for that..

yes, there already is a way to enter a line of 6 numbers, if you're running 1024x768 as you said, then that would be in the top right corner of the screenshot

Yes, I will be able to answer questions, though i'd imagine there won't be too many, it's fairly easy to use, and I will be adding more error-trapping.. maybe a few bug fixes in the first couple weeks..

And sure, if you win big you can send me a healthy cheque

 

[mirage]

won't be a way to select which lotto before running program.. at least not in the new future.. I'll make two programs for you, one to do 6/49 and one to do ON/49.. easy enough to do.. and if the lottario info becomes available I'll do one for that..

yes, there already is a way to enter a line of 6 numbers, if you're running 1024x768 as you said, then that would be in the top right corner of the screenshot

Yes, I will be able to answer questions, though i'd imagine there won't be too many, it's fairly easy to use, and I will be adding more error-trapping.. maybe a few bug fixes in the first couple weeks..

And sure, if you win big you can send me a healthy cheque

So the programs come with a pre-loaded database? There will be a way to update the database of course? How about I get busy and prepare a text file for the Lottario database? (This will take me awhile to do.) Would you be able to adjust to all to a 6/45?

(On reminder list: one sizable cheque to c/o Snides!)
Almost celebration time!

 

[mirage]

P.S. oh yes of course, now I see where -
at the top right corner of screen shot - so obviously & clear. Cool!

 

[Snides]

the database will be a separate file, when the program loads, it reads the database, and has a bunch of information pre-listed for your viewing pleasure.. Sure I could add the ability to pick a database before reading the data, but that would delay the project a bit more.. maybe in the future I'll do that..

I will add in a way for you to update the data yourself.. that's quite easy to do..

Yes, if you are bored, you can type in all the Lottario draws.. hope you are good with a keypad if you do it in a text file, try to make all the same format.. date draw# etc.. space between each, or comma, make sure it's the same from beginning to end. but then it'll hafta be turned into a database file to be read by the program. Which means, somehow I'll hafta get ahold of it, and through this forum you have no way of sending it to me except for cut 'n paste into a post (or a few) and I'll grab it from there..
I can adjust it to a 6/45 lottery, no big deal.. yer decades will be a little different for filtering though..

Another piece of good news. You mentioned that this started with you wanting a certain skip sum or range.. So I just added in a range option. if you do skipsum 63 to 63, you'll still just get skipsum 63, but if you do 60 to 65 like i just did for the last draw, that's what you'll get. The good news is that when I ran that with the settings the same as the screenshot, I got a total of 136 tickets, and they would have had 3 5# wins in them (plus a bunch of little wins)

This Program is starting to look too good.. I may have to charge that initial $500 price tag I mentioned before..

OH.. heh, on the bad side.. if you've had you computer for awhile, and never cleaned it, you may want to open it and blow some dust out.. my CPU was hitting 60 degrees while running till I blew it out, and now it won't go over 48 degrees.. I don't want to cook your CPU

 

[mirage]

the database will be a separate file, when the program loads, it reads the database, and has a bunch of information pre-listed for your viewing pleasure.. Sure I could add the ability to pick a database before reading the data, but that would delay the project a bit more.. maybe in the future I'll do that..

If persons in other provinces start downloading your program for their use, they might appreciate the ability to pick a database before reading the data too.

I will add in a way for you to update the data yourself.. that's quite easy to do..

This is good.

Yes, if you are bored, you can type in all the Lottario draws.. hope you are good with a keypad if you do it in a text file, try to make all the same format.. date draw# etc.. space between each, or comma, make sure it's the same from beginning to end. but then it'll hafta be turned into a database file to be read by the program. Which means, somehow I'll hafta get ahold of it, and through this forum you have no way of sending it to me except for cut 'n paste into a post (or a few) and I'll grab it from there..I can adjust it to a 6/45 lottery, no big deal.. yer decades will be a little different for filtering though..

OK, along with the millions of other things I'm trying to do, I will try to do that too. (But do I have to go all the way back to 199*? Can't I just do the last 5 years?)However, this really is important, because, sorry, it has to be the easiest Lottery in this province to win, (Unless the lottery corporation is doing "fake" draws to ensure no jackpot winner this week... ), the 2nd and lower division prizes better payouts than On 6/49, etc. You will see stats for Lottario in this BB within a month or so, unless something comes up.
Yeah, I understand about the the decades.

Another piece of good news. You mentioned that this started with you wanting a certain skip sum or range.. So I just added in a range option. if you do skipsum 63 to 63, you'll still just get skipsum 63, but if you do 60 to 65 like i just did for the last draw, that's what you'll get. The good news is that when I ran that with the settings the same as the screenshot, I got a total of 136 tickets, and they would have had 3 5# wins in them (plus a bunch of little wins)

The trick of course would be guessing what would be best range for sum of skips. Another detail that is easier with Lottario. But for Can 6/49 the payouts would be higher, if guess correctly.

This Program is starting to look too good.. I may have to charge that initial $500 price tag I mentioned before..

.

Yep!

Thanks for the tip about the CPU. Sounds like the program forces it to do serious number crunching. Does this mean other or, "commercial" lottery programs do not do intense work, like they purport to do, but cut corners? Anyway, my CPU is pretty new, but my house is dusty.

 

[mirage]

One more thought or question before I have to rush off - you spoke of your CPU almost over heating due to processing (intensity), is this an issue due to - question: is the first "sub" (I am not terribly literate when it comes to programmer speak, so pardon me for errors here) in your program, which does the filtering, the one that filters all the combos for the sum of skips? And is this - set of procedures - responsible for this?
Considering what the program is designed to do, is it best in your opinion to keep it this way, if this is the case, or would it help if a few simple, basic filters were added in at the beginning to shorten up the multitudes?

 

[Snides]

I have tried to place the widest filters in the beginning of the filtering section of the program.. This actually shortens the run time, it was taking close to 20 minutes (i never actually timed it..) before any filters were added.. now it's down to 5-10 minutes..

It checks the filters that will weed out the most combinations first, so, take for example a sum of line of 25 to 49 would mean that 1 2 3 4 5 6 is no good, 1 2 3 4 5 7 is no good.. etc, so it will throw these tickets out immediately before progressing through any of the other filters..

Sooo.. I guess to answer your question, yes that set of procedures is responsible for the CPU heating up, and yes, your second question is already in play..

It doesn't slow the machine down terribly.. my mp3's never choke, but it does slow down internet and pogo's solitaire game (which I tend to play while waiting for the results..) I'm just trying to tell you that it will give your computer a workout, and if your computer is not in shape, I don't want to assume responsibility for it's 'heart-attack' so to speak..

 

[mirage]

Hello Snides,
Thanks for your answers!
Now going to get to work to redo my numbers for this evening. Good Luck to you with your own selections!

 

[mirage]

Hello Snides,

Re: On 6/49 of last Sat. on regional lottery thread. Well you can't win 'em all, (but you can expect to win some of the time.)

re: your post:

(Originally posted by Snides)
Yes, if you are bored, you can type in all the Lottario draws.. hope you are good with a keypad if you do it in a text file, try to make all the same format.. date draw# etc.. space between each, or comma, make sure it's the same from beginning to end. but then it'll hafta be turned into a database file to be read by the program. Which means, somehow I'll hafta get ahold of it, and through this forum you have no way of sending it to me except for cut 'n paste into a post (or a few) and I'll grab it from there..I can adjust it to a 6/45 lottery, no big deal.. yer decades will be a little different for filtering though..

I am about to post 6 1/2 years of Lottario historical draws including last Sat.'s. I did cut and paste from MSN Sympatico, site made familiar to me by (credit given to) kind and helpful folks here on the board. Then I typed away (yes I'm a pretty good typist). Now I will cut and paste into a new thread in the Q & A section. Maybe some other people will find it useful as well. Note: Sympatico had a blooper that I was able to notice: draws April 17 and April 27 of 1999 are duplicates on MSN, but this shouldn't be of much significance relative to the big picture.

 

[mirage]

Lottario data, not 6 1/2!

Well, I feel embarrassed now - All that typing put my brain to sleep. I mean 5 1/2 years of Lottario data, not 6 1/2!
Sorry.

 

[mirage]

Hello Snides,
It is said that patience is a virtue...
How is your vacation?
How's the program going? At one point, much much earlier on you asked if I was in a hurry. I said no not that much of a hurry at the time. I know you have a really great progie that you are slowly cooking up, and when you are good and ready only then will it be posted. But what are the chances of getting something small and simple just to check skip sums for lines? As that's all I wanted and no one else in the world has anything for this as yet? There are other programs out there that filter for just about everything else.

As for the Lottario data, well whatever... You must have read the other thread. Meanwhile knowing Those details I don't feel much like doing more typing...
I haven't been around on this board long enough to amass the knowledge and/or data that others have, etc. etc.