Single Digits Or Double Digits When Counting The Digits Drawn

[PAB]

Hi everyone,

This is a general discussion about Digits with regard to the numbers drawn in a Lotto, but more specifically, COUNTING the Digits and NOT a discussion about First Digits or Last Digits, I have just referenced them as an example and to try and explain in a bit more detail what I am curious about.

As you know, you can either refer to the Lotto numbers as Single Digits or Double Digits. By this I mean as an example, the number 9 can either be used as 9 OR 09.

This obviously ONLY affects the numbers 1-9 when COUNTING the First Digits as Single Digits or Double Digits.

My question is, when using the Digit 0 for COUNTING, is it better to use the 0 in a Single Digits or Double Digits environment?

The range for 6 numbers drawn within any combination with regard to Double Digits is...

From 0-6 times for Digit 0
From 0-7 times for Digits 1-4
From 0-5 times for Digits 5-9

The overall pattern for ALL Digits includes a step pattern because of the Leftmost Digit having a cutoff of at 4 and is therefore biased towards the low Digits.
I have calculated the following for Digit 0 from the UK Main 649 Lotto upto and including draw 1,820.

Double Digit

0 Drawn = 262 Times
1 Drawn = 655 Times
2 Drawn = 570 Times
3 Drawn = 269 Times
4 Drawn = 57 Times
5 Drawn = 7 Times
6 Drawn = 0 Times
7 Drawn = 0 Times
Total Drawn = 1,820 Times

Single Digit

0 Drawn = 1,062 Times
1 Drawn = 626 Times
2 Drawn = 128 Times
3 Drawn = 4 Times
4 Drawn = 0 Times
5 Drawn = 0 Times
6 Drawn = 0 Times
7 Drawn = 0 Times
Total Drawn = 1,820 Times

Just thought I would see what peoples thoughts on this were.
As I said at the beginning of this thread, this is a general discussion about Digits with regard to the numbers drawn in a Lotto, but more specifically, COUNTING the Digits. This discussion is NOT about splitting into groups, doubles, triples, cycles etc.

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[Icewynd]

Well, I count following zeros (e.g. 40), but not leading zeros (eg. 04).

But I am a little confused as to what you are after If this is a 6/49 lottery, what happened to the 8s & 9s?

 

[PAB]

Hi Icewynd,

Well, I count following zeros (e.g. 40), but not leading zeros (eg. 04).
But I am a little confused as to what you are after If this is a 6/49 lottery, what happened to the 8s & 9s?

I tried NOT to make this confusing but have obviously failed .
I am just talking about ZERO's, so for instance, if we use what I call Single Digits the numbers 10, 20, 30 & 40 are the only numbers with ZERO's that apply.
Now if we use Double Digits the numbers 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 20, 30 & 40 are the only numbers with ZERO's that apply.

As an example, suppose we have the combination...

2, 5, 21, 22, 25, 32

Using the Single Digits scenario with the combination 2, 5, 21, 22, 25, 32 there are...

NONE with 0 <<<<<<<<<
One with 1
Six with 2
One with 3
None with 4
Two with 5
None with 6
None with 7
None with 8
None with 9

Using the Double Digits scenario with the combination is 02, 05, 21, 22, 25, 32 there are...

TWO with 0 <<<<<<<<<
One with 1
Six with 2
One with 3
None with 4
Two with 5
None with 6
None with 7
None with 8
None with 9

It is basically, the way that the ZERO is used or not. The rest of the figures are NOT impacted to any extent, they are identical.

What do you mean by...

...what happened to the 8s & 9s?

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[Icewynd]

As an example, suppose we have the combination...

2, 5, 21, 22, 25, 32

I would count this in a couple of ways:

1. First Digits/Decades: 0-0-2-2-2-3

2. Last digits: 2-5-1-2-5-2

I consider the digits 5,6,7,8,9,0 as add-ons to the basic 1-4 digits that show up so much more frequently. For example, the digit "1" occurs 15 times in a 6/49 game: 1,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,31,41. Similarly for 2,3,& 4. For 5-0 there are only 5 possibilites for each: 5,15,25,35,45, except for 0 which only occurs 4 times as 10,20,30 & 40.

So, there is definately a bias towards 1-4 or, depending on how you count, 0-4.

I'm still not clear on your definition of "Double Digit" and "Single Digit".

 

[PAB]

Hi Icewynd,

I would count this in a couple of ways:-
1. First Digits/Decades: 0-0-2-2-2-3
2. Last digits: 2-5-1-2-5-2

This is to do with First Digits & Last Digits which is not what I am curious about in this thread, but I do keep what you have stated above anyway.

I consider the digits 5,6,7,8,9,0 as add-ons to the basic 1-4 digits that show up so much more frequently. For example, the digit "1" occurs 15 times in a 6/49 game: 1,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,31,41. Similarly for 2,3,& 4.

I like...

"I consider the digits 5,6,7,8,9,0 as add-ons to the basic 1-4 digits that show up so much more frequently."

...because that is a good way of categorising and interpreting it.
In fact, the digit 1 ONLY appears 14 times, as do Digits 2, 3, 4.

For 5-0 there are only 5 possibilites for each: 5,15,25,35,45, except for 0 which only occurs 4 times as 10,20,30 & 40.

Yes I agree, there are 5 possibilities for Digits 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, this is because they can never be First DOUBLE Digits, and only 4 possibilities for the Digit 0.

So, there is definately a bias towards 1-4 or, depending on how you count, 0-4.

That's how I worked it out in my initial post.

I'm still not clear on your definition of "Double Digit" and "Single Digit".

Basically, 9 is a Single Digit and 09 is a Double Digit.

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[jack]

Hello, pab! a lottery 49/6 I have array of initial digits 0-4 that the right always
100% in any lottery, can even forge the draw always hit 100% with
210 lines, lack clear endings or the last digit 0-9, but part of the front, but attention is the initial digit, ie half
This guaranteed 100% of whatever comes, you have to put the draws in order
ready!! half this solved.
Increasing because the array is linear perfect, as you can set it and filter the last digit
Do you want to die?

 

[Icewynd]

In fact, the digit 1 ONLY appears 14 times, as do Digits 2, 3, 4.

Well, I count 1,10,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,31&41 as 1 and 11 as 2 occurrences of digit 1. So, 14 numbers containing the digit 1, 15 apperances of the digit 1. Just a different way of looking at it.

 

[jack]

Hello, pab e ice, good if you are playing a lottery 49/6 half already hit 100% of any lot, can check the draw can be simulated up will always hit 100%, but initial attention are the digits 0 through 4 garanatido this 100% clear lack wing terminations 0a 9, but the front does not need to worry ok
As for cycles, one filter is numbered lines within each cycle = example at the moment after you're starting a new line noa 16 numbers that in 16:17 cycles of cycles, you can delete a numbers 30,
Below the matrix always perfect hits half (digit initial 100%)
000000
000001
000002
000003
000004
000011
000012
000013
000014
000022
000023
000024
000033
000034
000 044
000111
000 112
000 113
000 114
000 122
000123
000124
000 133
000134
000144
000222
000 223
000 224
000 233
000 234
000 244
000333
000334
000 344
000 444
001111
001 112
001 113
001114
001122
001123
001124
001 133
001 134
001 144
001 222
001 223
001 224
001 233
001234
001244
001 333
001 334
001 344
001 444
002222
002 223
002 224
002 233
002 234
002 244
002 333
002 334
002,344
002 444
003333
003 334
003 344
003 444
004 444
011111
011 112
011 113
011 114
011 122
011 123
011 124
011 133
011 134
011 144
011 222
011 223
011 224
011 233
011 234
011 244
011 333
011 334
011 344
011 444
012 222
012 223
012 224
012 233
012 234
012 244
012 333
012 334
012 344
012 444
013 333
013 334
013 344
013 444
014 444
022 222
022 223
022 224
022 233
022 234
022 244
022 333
022 334
022 344
022 444
023 333
023 334
023 344
023 444
024 444
033 333
033 334
033 344
033 444
034 444
044 444
111111
111112
111113
111114
111122
111123
111124
111133
111134
111144
111222
111223
111224
111 233
111234
111244
111333
111 334
111344
111444
112222
112223
112224
112233
112234
112244
112333
112334
112344
112444
113333
113334
113344
113444
114 444
122222
122223
122224
122233
122234
122244
122333
122334
122 344
122444
123333
123334
123344
123444
124444
133333
133334
133344
133444
134444
144444
222222
222223
222224
222233
222234
222244
222333
222334
222344
222444
223333
223334
223344
223444
224444
233333
233334
233344
233444
234444
244444
333333
333334
333344
333444
334444
344444
444444
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[PAB]

Hi Icewynd,

After giving this some serious thought I have decided that using the Single Digit method and approach is the way to go.
I would just like to thank YOU for your input and sharing your strategy with regard to this, it is appreciated.

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[Icewynd]

After giving this some serious thought I have decided that using the Single Digit method and approach is the way to go.

That is what I use, PAB. I didn't find that the increased granularity of adding the leading zeros really added any useful information.

I would just like to thank YOU for your input and sharing your strategy with regard to this, it is appreciated.

Not a problem. Anytime.

 

[PAB]

Hi Icewynd,

That is what I use, PAB. I didn't find that the increased granularity of adding the leading zeros really added any useful information.

Yes, my results showed the same.
Using the Single Digit method and approach I have decided to use it as an additional filter because I can still omit 2.98% which equates to 417,056 combinations from the full 13,983,816 combinations.

So all in all, it was a useful exercise .

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[jack]

Hello, pab and ice, the path is the digits!, Because the draw can be a number each ball, or separate draw the initial and last digit, no matter the precision is the same
The matrix above proves it perfect,
Good first digit after the groups and then the deltas of previous draws, the order is to filter a good game, but because, first the endings or last digit, then the groups
Chosen and then see the values ​​of Delta sweepstakes past, to make a single bet
And unlike in the past ok sweepstakes

 

[PAB]

Hi Icewynd,

CORRECTION

It should be 2.98% which equates to 417,062 combinations from the full 13,983,816 combinations.
I know it is only 6 different, but 6 is 6 .

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[Teufellj]

Hello, PAB,
I'm curious as to wether your counting system would be better or not were you to use base12 rather than base10 for a more quantifiable answer(s) since you are not using 10?

Teufellj...[/B]

 

[PAB]

Hi Teufellj,

I'm curious as to wether your counting system would be better or not were you to use base12 rather than base10 for a more quantifiable answer(s) since you are not using 10?

I don't quite follow what you are saying, I am using 10, 20, 30 & 40 in the data analysis!

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[Teufellj]

Hello again, PAB...
My question as it may seem, wasn't frivilous. You had mentioned in your opening that..."you used 1 thru 9 or the reverse..." Since "0" is omitted, I assumed that not using this digit would qualify base12 over base10 which does not entertain the "0". Have I read your meaning wrong?
Again, I'm not trying for a confusing enigma, just curious!

Thank you for your previous quick reply,

Teufellj...

 

[PAB]

Hi Teufellj,

Thanks for the reply.
When I said...

This obviously ONLY affects the numbers 1-9 when COUNTING the First Digits as Single Digits or Double Digits.

...what I tried to say was that if I was to use the above as Double Digits then there would be an EXTRA ZERO to take into consideration with respect to the data analysis for those numbers ONLY.
Sorry if I made it unclear.

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[Teufellj]

PAB and single digits...

Hello PAB,
I would say that I'm the "mudbrain" because the curiosity that drives some of my comments and questions from off of the wall usually lead to misunderstanding my intent. Hope that you can understand but I do do some math with Base12 trying to get a handle on how those genius pyramid builders make math so concise without a zero. Makes me wonder what I could do with lottery in terms of less numbers

Teufellj...

 

[PAB]

Hi Teufellj,

...I do do some math with Base12 trying to get a handle on how those genius pyramid builders make math so concise without a zero. Makes me wonder what I could do with lottery in terms of less numbers.

This concept sounds quite interesting, perhaps you could elaborate in a bit more detail please or even start a new thread.

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.