Sangoma-number divination

[Excellence]

Hello Springbok,

I agree whit your tactic. It is best to try to find groups of numbers that contain one or two numbers that are to be drawn then chasing combinations. In fact I don’t think that anyone will find someday an algorithm or formulae to predict only the winning numbers. Don‘t forget that p = 1 doesn’t exists.

Indeed your example whit the inbetweener is surprising. But for me is also surprising how can a pair or ball reach 7 skip cycles above median. If we toss a coin we can obtain larger skips for one side. That proves that lotto is, let’s say chaotic, but we still research it right? And with success I can say.

Nice dream . Living your live as it should be lived is the highest aspiration that a man can have. Well lying on your back all day is not the best way to live but if you would give me a TV, internet and good food in a nice and warm cave I would be pleased.

 

[Springbok]

Hi Excellence

Look at the 6/49 game from this viewpoint. Supposing you identify 2 pairs that will hit next draw say {13,,21} and {34, 41}. This will give you 4 two number combinations:
13 34
13 41
21 34
21 41
If you identified the pairs correctly then one if those combinations is correct. This is quite possible with the programme. Already you are far ahead of the vast herd of people who have bought tickets. You now have to supply the remaining 4 numbers. If you randomly pick 4 that come into your head first the chances are you will be wrong. Your second pick of 4 numbers will increase your chance of getting at least one correct number. So you now have a chance of hitting 3 numbers in one of those combinations. You now are one of the few people who have hit 3 numbers. You are in the top 2 percent. None of this is rocket science. It is simple common sense. Winnalotto(or my alpha, beta etc files) can put you into the top 2 percent without hardly any effort. This little technique is thousands of times superior to quick picks or consulting an astrologer, witch doctor, shaman, or your grandmother.

There is a Belgian person who posted on this board some time ago(first name is Stefan) I think. He sells a lottery programme. I checked his site. He can produce a 52 line wheel. Whatever the result is you will get 2 numbers. So you spend £52 to win nothing. Even if you were lucky enough to hit 3 numbers in one of those combinations you will have made a net loss of £42. So using the Winnalotto software is a huge leap forward compared to his offerings. With 4 lines at least you have some chance of even making a little profit.

Don't worry about making mistakes- mistakes are merely feedback. Two days ago I was checking the weather forecast for London . It showed a cloud with the sun peeping out from one side(the sun does make the occasional guest appearance in the UK). This meant a cloudy day with occasional sunny spells. I looked out of the window and there was a monsoon type rainstorm with the wind howling. So they make mistakes despite their new Cray super computer running in zillions of terraflops for weather forecasting.

 

[barge]

Hi Springbok

As an ex mariner who studied Met, I can confirm that the Met office gets it correct about 51% of the time. they used to do better when they had a couple of weather ships out in the Atlantic reporting to them directly on depressions..........now they have to interpret pretty pictures! Their computer is like computers anywhere, garbage in, garbage out.
Many of the people who need accurate weather forecasts use other wx companies, who tend to be more accurate. Personally seaweed tells me all I want to know about now!
I am interested in the best way to use the opening Batsmen, particularly concerning the skip parameters, any info gratefully received.
I don't know why the Belgian is using a 52 ticket wheel, the 19 ticket one on Merseyworld has the same guarantee. The trouble with these is they are so tight that it is difficult to get more than 3 winning numbers on a line. I used it because iInever changed numbers, so we could buy 8 weeks worth at a time and forget about it. What a waste............

 

[Excellence]

Hi Springbok,

I ran some tests on the 49s. Since the results are disappointing I will write here the steps that I followed while I was testing:

1. Load the file. Since I decided to test the strategy on more draws I skipped last 8 draws in my file and start loading the next 200 draws. My 49s file was updated until 25 september, inclusive.

2. I start loading filters. I begin whit inbetweener4 and if it shows more than one pair I keep increase the number of the filter until I obtain one pair. If only one pair fails to appear I increase the number of draws analyzed, usually whit 50 draws. I restart the process above until I find only one pair. I do the same whit the opening batesmen.

In 8 draws I manage to obtain one pair 5 times for inbetweeners in which only one hit in the next draw and 4 pairs for opening batesmen. Also one hit.

Thinking this can’t be good I reanalyzed the same draws using 6 / 49 not 7 / 49 as I first used. I obtained 8 pairs for inbetweeners, one for every draw, and again only one hit in the next draw. 7 pairs for opening batesmen, no hit.

So what am I doing wrong? You obviously have much more better percentages then mine, you even obtain 2 pairs that hit in the same draw and that never happened to me. Of course 8 draws is not much but is far from 85%. What are your percentage of winnings for opening batesmen and will you be kind to tell me in how many draws do you manage to play it? I mean something like in the last 20 draws I played opening batesmen 10 times and I won in 9. Please.

 

[Springbok]

Hi Excellence

Wow! Excellence, your results are certainly not good. It seems different people get different results using the same technique. This may be a good or a bad thing. Let's run a little exercise to show you how I do it with my approach which tend to be loose and free -wheeling.

We will use the inbetweener. Your history file must be frozen up to Wednesday's teatime draw. Hopefully your inbetweener filters are set up like mine.We use the 7 ball game. Load the history file by skipping the last 20 draws. Your history will be marked at 100 exactly. Click your way starting at inbetweener7 and go down. Nothing appears until you click on inbetweener4. The following pairs will appear on your screen:-
{7, 34} {7, 40} {11, 44} {27, 40}
This is no good to us. We only want one and only one.
So reload the file but use only a 80 draw history. Click your way through the inbetweener filters. Nothing happens until you hit inbetweener4. The following pairs will appear on your screen:-
{7, 34} {11, 44} {27, 40}
This is no good to us. We want one and only one
Reload the file with a history of 50 draws. Click your way through the inbetweener files. Nothing happens until you hit inbetweener4. Voila! one pair appears {27, 40} Median is 3 and current skip is 1. The number 40 appears in the the required parameter. Success!! This required some effort. It could have been worse.

Now we are down to line 16. Skip 16 draws and load with a 100 draw history. Click through the inbetweener files . Nothing happens until you hit inbetweener5. {8, 45} appears. Voila! success. It hits within the required parameter. This one was easy-a walk in the park.

We are now down to line 15. Skip 15 draws and load with a 100 draw history. Click your way down the inbetweener filters. Nothing happens until you hit inbetweener5. Our old friend {27, 40} appears. Voila! It hits within the required parameter. Another walk in the park.

Changing the history will give you different results. It seems that not only do we have floating point numbers but floating medians which bob up and down according to the length of the history files. Go thou and do likewise.

 

[Excellence]

Good morning Springbok,

Thank you for your answer. I followed exactly your indications but obtained different results. From this point it is clear that I have one of the problems: I set my filters wrong or I have a bad history file which is frustrating.

Here I put an example of how I set my filters. I will use Inbetweener5.

#20 > 0
and
#20 < #1
and
#21 > #1
and
#22 > #1
and
#23 > #1
and
#24 > #1
and
#51 > #1

I obtained column 51 by adding columns. I selected not to view all the columns that I added until 51. Now I will try to check my history file. It is hard because the sites that provide the results are not always correct. Bluesquare omits some numbers. I once loaded 2500 draws from Win-on-numbers. Around the 1000 draw they started to repeat. I noticed the mistake using Excel, unfortunately only after I used them in many analyzes… The bad part is that this fake draws replace the real ones. I am thinking of using random generated draws.

After I read your post I seen another mistake that I was doing while testing. I started with 200 draws and I kept increasing the amount. First I was puzzled to see how pairs change but afterwards I realized that their median was changing, as you mentioned. We are not using the theoretical median, but the statistical one.

 

[Springbok]

Morning Excellence

For inbetweener5 you must add the following:-
and
#52 < #1

This is the cut off point for inbetweener5. It will then supply you(hopefully) with pairs with exactly 5 skip cycles above the median. Every filter must have a cut off point.

At the moment I use the following histories. 100, 80, 50, 25, 200, 500 in that order until I hopefully get a single pair. In desperation I might even go to 1000.

 

[Springbok]

Hi again Excellence

That is the current state of my knowledge with these filters. This can change as time goes by. I find the draadsitters very variable. sometimes they are shockingly accurate and other times so so. That is they achieve total perfection and other times well below the theoretical parameters. This is a tough game. Maybe predicting the weather in the UK is easier South African weather is easier. 99% of the time the weather is excellent. But I know one thing, if you see the high flying cirrus clouds then a cold front from the Antarctic is on the way. If you are eating supper and flying ants drop in your soup then it is going to rain soon. I wonder if flying ants can predict lottery numbers

 

[Excellence]

Hi Springbok,

Developing every day right ? Well the cause of my unsuccessful experiments was a bad history file. After secular fights that lasted all morning I managed, hopefully, to solve the problems. Now my file has only 236 draws but I intend to make it bigger.

Regarding the last criterion in the filters. That is very new right? I am asking because with my new history file and the old “versions” of the filter I obtained mostly the result that you obtained. I will only refer to the first example. I skipped last 20 draws, load next 100 and no pair appeared until InBetweener4 when 4 pairs appeared: {7;34}, {7;42}, {11;44}, {27;40}. The only difference is {7;42}. On your data appeared {7;40}. Please let me know if you obtain the same results, because if you do it means that I still have problems whit the history.

On the other hand, if I update my filters whit the last criterion I only obtain {7;34} and {11;44}. So what filters did you used when analyzing those draws? Thank you for your patience.

 

[Springbok]

Hi Excellence

I rechecked and I still get the result I posted earlier. It was inbetweener4 with the cut off at #51. See the coding below for my inbetweener4:-

#20 > 0
and
#20 < #1
and
#21 > #1
and
#22 > #1
and
#23 > #1
and
#24 > #1
and
#51 < #1

With a 50 draw history, inbetweener4 will give one pair {27, 40}. The median is 3 and the current skip is 1. Your history could be wrong or my history could be wrong or the coding of the filter could be wrong. Remember the history data is frozen up to and including teatime Wednesday.

 

[Springbok]

Ok, Excellence, let's look at the forecast for the next 2 draws. History file includes Thursday's lunchtime draw. Load current file with a 80 draw history. Now inbetweener5 gives one pair only {36, 47}. Current skip is 2 and median is 3. It should hit teatime today or lunchtime tomorrow. We are using the 7 ball game.

 

[barge]

Hi Patrick123 and Springbok

I am depressed no hits last night on the 5/34! I am checking my filters, as I noticed an error in my Inbetweener4. It's so long since I checked them, and the program has developed so fast..............?
Not really depressed we can't expect results constantly, it would just be nice to see some self generated progress.
I had some specific filtering results using the HLHLHP and HLHLL filters, one draw in each case, but no show. I suppose they could come up on Saturday...........or later!

 

[Excellence]

Hi Springbok,

I don’t know what to say. I do not obtain your result for the next 2 draws. I was so furious that I started to check manually the last 80 draws in my file. I compared each line whit the ones from Win-on-numbers. I have no mistakes. I checked filters again. 100% identical with yours. No mistakes. I checked all filters. They are all ok.

After that I went to verify if the others information provided by you are the same whit mine’s. I did not loaded any filter and analyzed all the pairs. The pair {36;47} has a current skip of 2 but a median of 4 in the last 80 draws. I thought maybe I should check more draws manually but there is no point in doing that. Number 36 was drawn 8 times in the last 80 draws and number 47 11 times, so the skip cycles analyzed should be ok. The current skip would recommend this pair for an inbetweener but not the others apparently. I do not get any pair with InBetweener5. I get 2 pairs with InBetweener4 but they are {14;30} and {31;43}. While I was writing this I rechecked my filters again and they are ok. I don’t know what to say. For the next 2 draws I also included today’s draw which is: 4, 11, 33, 39, 42, 49, 8.

If the Win-on-numbers is posting the correct results then it might be a mistake in your database. Whatever would be, it seems to be working. I also like to ask you when was the last time you downloaded Patrick’s program? After the last innovation it doesn’t seemed to work as well as before.

I see there are about 13 000 views of this thread. Can somebody who plays or watches the 49s help me elucidate where is the mistake? What are the results you gentlemen obtain using the program? Are you obtaining same result as Springbok for this draw? (27 september, teatime)

 

[Springbok]

Hello Barge

Excellence not Barge, here are the last 80 draws. The bonus ball is incorporated into the result so everything is in ascending order.


4 8 11 33 39 42 49
9 14 15 16 20 33 35
4 5 21 23 29 31 36
1 12 15 18 27 44 49
9 13 16 21 32 34 38
7 9 21 29 32 33 34
13 16 18 20 23 30 40
10 12 13 17 26 27 47
7 10 15 19 20 42 45
8 9 12 20 24 28 38
3 4 7 17 18 31 40
1 11 19 21 35 41 44
14 27 29 36 38 39 45
4 10 13 17 33 35 40
2 4 5 18 25 28 41
4 7 15 20 24 33 44
12 14 20 21 35 45 49
2 10 12 25 40 43 44
7 8 19 22 24 25 28
11 19 29 38 42 47 49
2 10 22 41 46 48 49
6 9 12 14 17 29 32
2 7 13 25 26 31 40
1 11 14 18 20 35 46
9 10 18 20 23 35 45
3 13 15 23 24 33 49
16 21 25 30 36 37 49
2 5 13 16 17 40 46
5 9 16 25 34 38 42
5 6 14 26 30 32 37
9 12 15 25 37 39 48
2 19 22 24 28 29 49
1 11 14 24 36 39 45
13 25 28 31 35 37 41
10 20 22 31 36 39 46
2 5 10 19 26 29 30
3 8 12 20 28 29 47
1 2 9 14 26 35 44
17 32 37 39 42 46 48
15 24 25 32 39 40 47
1 4 5 22 25 31 38
3 14 21 30 32 47 48
18 24 28 29 33 34 38
3 13 18 23 28 32 43
1 10 11 18 27 43 45
1 5 10 12 33 37 46
5 6 15 29 33 38 49
7 13 14 20 25 30 38
1 2 6 15 17 26 30
9 13 17 20 31 33 38
3 4 11 17 24 25 31
3 11 23 24 35 37 40
6 7 8 18 19 22 26
11 32 34 35 36 41 45
16 20 24 27 30 31 47
3 7 16 21 23 42 46
4 11 20 23 31 32 34
6 7 8 10 19 27 43
3 8 10 20 33 38 47
4 12 13 20 28 31 48
2 3 11 23 42 44 45
3 17 23 27 28 38 42
5 7 23 24 26 34 40
5 9 12 25 41 43 46
8 12 15 20 36 37 49
12 23 25 37 38 40 42
4 9 14 26 34 36 42
3 8 9 10 20 31 43
11 16 31 33 40 42 49
5 17 18 19 24 26 49
10 16 24 26 28 37 43
8 11 23 28 38 43 45
12 13 17 20 24 25 34
23 25 28 29 33 34 49
7 10 16 27 33 34 47
2 21 22 24 26 37 40
10 12 17 18 28 41 47
9 17 24 25 36 42 45
8 15 16 28 34 42 48
1 5 7 11 30 34 42

Here is the coding for inbetweener5:-
#20 > 0
and
#20 < #1
and
#21 > #1
and
#22 > #1
and
#23 > #1
and
#24 > #1
and
#51 > #1
and
#52 < #1
Now it has just got to work. I am using Patrick's latest software. I have rechecked 3 times. It is the 7 ball game.

The reading on the inbetweener5 screen is as follows:
..................median........CS.......s1....s2....s3...s4....s5
36, 47.............3.............2.........4......4.....6....6......5
cs=current skip
s1= skip cycle 1
s2= skip cycle 2 and so on

 

[barge]

Hi Springbok

I think your last was addressed to Excellence

I found the error in my filters, and used them to locate, ALL of last nights balls, excluding the Tball of course. Thanks for the help.
I am not having any problems with Sangoma.
Excellence I have been in the same position as yourself, being unable to replicate something others have done. I would re-download the program, check your dbase again, and your filters, very carefully, and basically keep trying!

 

[Springbok]

Hi Barge

Ooops, you are quite right. I did make a quick change but not to the title bar.

 

[Springbok]

Hi again Barge

I have lately ignored the Thunderball game, more concerned with penny snatching from the bookies. Must give it more time though.

My attention is on the £88,000,000 Euromillions. I don't know why The odds on the 5/50 part are 2,118,760 to one . Hell, I could buy Sam an airconditioned kennel and the choicest steaks for the rest of his life. The odds in this part are less fearsome than the 6/49. Of course the star numbers greatly increase the odds. It is worth a little fling of a quid or two. I know one thing, if I don't enter I have no chance at all, if I do I have a teeny weeny millimicroscopic chance.

 

[barge]

Springbok

Yes! Definitely worth a try! I forecast nothing in the main draw yesterday, or in todays 49s, so hope will spring as ever.

 

[Springbok]

Barge, later on I will try to forecast 2 pairs for the Euromillions giving 4 possible 2 number combinations. I will give a Winnalotto forecast and an alpha, beta etc file forecast. I also got Saliu's Pick532 programme slowly churning out combinations. I will probably run the computer all night Some time ago it produced one combination for the South African 6/49 game. It took 4 hours to think about it and spat out one combination. It hit 4 out of the 6 numbers in the following evening's result.

 

[Springbok]

Here is my interpretation of the Winnalotto forecast for tomorrow's Euromillions. I used a 1000 draw history. This contained simulated files with the real draws on top. The skipsitters, offset opening batsmen(by 2 draws) and inbetweeners(by one draw) cluster around the numbers 18,34 and 37. So a 2 two number combination is 18,34 and 18 37. Of course only 18 might come up. The second highest historical high is 24, 26 and median due is 24, 27. If you are desperate then you could add those numbers. This is a far better way than a quick pick as the filters have proven themselves in the past. But they are not 100% accurate. If we are lucky then we might catch 3 numbers. For the other two, have a chat to St Jude.