Sangoma-number divination

blitzed

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more probabilities

Ok EuroMillions star numbers were covered in my previous post...here is the 5of50 in 28draws probabilities:
0x 5.23%
1x 16.28%
2x 24.42%
3x 23.52%
4x 16.33%
5x 8.71%
6x 3.71%
7x 1.30%
8x 0.38%
9x 0.09%
10x 0.02%
11x 0.00%


While I'm at it, here is 6of49 in 28draws:
0x 2.58%
1x 10.08%
2x 18.99%
3x 22.96%
4x 20.03%
5x 13.41%
6x 7.17%
7x 3.15%
8x 1.15%
9x 0.36%
10x 0.09%
11x 0.02%
12x 0.00%

cheers!
blitzed:thumb:
 

Springbok

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Anti-prediction

Mornin' Patrick

I created a special anti-prediction folder for the filters(opening batsmen, inbetweeners and draadsitters. So for example I have draadsitter8-anti going all the way down to draadsitter2-anti.The criteria for each was reversed. It is logical to presume that when we look for prediction according to skip cycles we can do the opposite. Initial testing has produced pleasing results. For example in the 5/34 section of the UK Thunderball, I have managed to knock out on occasions 14 numbers purely on the draadsitter-anti filters. A 5/20 game is preferable to a 5/34 game. You will have to run tests to see how far you can push the envelope here.
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Patrick

I am puzzled by the internal column. It gives an index. What criteria is used to calculate the index? I just cannot figure it out and it can be very accurate.
 

blitzed

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Springbok said:
Thanks for your efforts. Will have a look at see what I can make out.

hiya, you are most welcome.

I can take the number of draws out further ifya wish, but 28 seemed like a reasonable snapshot to me.

cheers!
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bloubul

Member
Hi Springbok

We "Klap them well in the rugby and cricket". Is it not the >Overdue rule,Overdue weight, How long is too long for a hit NOT to come in?>Not Recent Rule, Not Recent weight, Hit Span(Gap) Value?
I'm only asking?

BlouBul :cool:
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi All,
Sorry I've been predisposed for the last few days.
The Internal Column, should have been the internal number given to the pair or triplet. i.e. {1,2} = 1, {1,3} = 2 all the way up to {48,49} = 1176. but since I changed the number storage to byte, the number overflows thus it goes from 0 to 255 repeating the cycle all the time. So at this stage, it's not serving any purpose and I presume any accuracy is purely co-incidental unless there is some pattern to the way the numbers are drawn??? Possibly I should change this to the frequency of the number as Excellence suggested.

Black Prince, as this is a relatively simple probabilistic wheel, where all I do is to populate the initial wheel, run some simulated drawings though it, then calculate the percentages, biased against the x out of y picks, I then swap some numbers & repeat the process, keeping the best performing wheel. Thus, when you see the percentages stabilise, you click the stop button.

Thanks to all for the tips & probabilities, I've got a bit of homework cut-out for me :)

Regards
Patrick
 

barge

Member
Hi Springbok

May I ask a small favour.......I forecast 3 hits on the 6/49 last Saturday, 21 25 36. I have been trying to backtest for the other 3 numbers, 3 7 12 without success, trying every filter I know. fails to point at any of them. Do you have any ideas how I might find them, if they can be found? :confused:

Purely out of curiosity I produced 5 randomly generated versions of the 3/163 wheel I mentioned earlier, and Lo! all five came up with the same numbers that I did....I could hear the great god Lotticus chortling up his sleeve.
 

Springbok

Member
Dumela Patrick

At last I managed to understand the readout of the filter checking on the program. When an opening batsmen hits on the program, is it for the next draw or is the hit registered if it hits for the next draw or so until it hits the median ie within the required parameters. There is some cool programming there, Patrick. Sweet, ek se. Well done.

I am not happy with the way the filters hit at the moment, they are not in the ball park figures. They are streaky. When they are hot they are hot but when they are cold they are cold. I will talk about this more later. Some adjustments may have to be made with the pairings. I have spent a lot of time tossing coins(on the internet). The streaks are in line with the ball park figures. The problem lies in the way we look at skip cycle medians. Coin tossing results cannot be totally ported the skip cycle medians even if they are in the 50% probability zone. More later.

Alles van die beste
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Barge

What method did you use for those 3 numbers you forecasted? When I know that then I could possibly suggest a way for the other 3 numbers. It's always those last 3 numbers that are hard to get:burnt: :confused:
 

Springbok

Member
Afternoon Patrick

I have been running tests using my new found abilities with the checking facilities of the program. Now it appears that the anti predictive filters have a better hit rate although they are supposed to have the opposite effect from the normal filters. There is no doubt that the existing predictive filters will have to be remodelled for greater accuracy.

This is how I see the situation with coin tossing and the 50% median. If you have say 100 coin tossers and they are all tossing coins and writing down the outcomes and at a certain point you say stop. Now all the people with 2 consecutive skips(either heads or tails) have one more toss, then you will find the results hitting the theoretical ballpark. Same with 3,4,5 etc consecutive hits. Each person is an independent entity and the results are indicative of the previous result stream of that particular person(I would use the word tosser but that is an insulting word in England:) ) Now when we look at the pairs pulled out by say draadsitter2 it would appear as the same as the coin tossers. But the results are not dependent on the previous result stream but on an independent event that is the next draw. That is why we are not getting the theoretical ballpark figures.

The next step is to find the correct coding for these filter. The anti filters give us some insight into this recoding.
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Springbok,

What is the possibility that some of these anti-filters, although they are working fine in rejecting the draadsitters, are in fact now an equivalent filter for e.g. the opening batsmen?
 

Springbok

Member
Goie Aand Patrick

Here is an example of what Draadsitter3-anti produced. Testing was with 200 draws with the top 4 draws left out.Data file current including teatime draw today. Target was the fourth draw. CS is current skip, S1,S2 ... S4 are previous skip cycles.
............... CS........S1........S2..........S3.........S4
18, 49........2...........0.........0............0...........0
20, 49........2...........0.........0............0...........4
23, 46........2...........0.........0.............1...........6
46, 49........2............1........0............0...........0

All 4 pairs hit. 46 and 49 were the actual numbers drawn. The scenario does not include any known filter. What you see is the exact opposite criteria to the straight draadsitter3. Funny peculiar, ne. In two of them, the S4 should have been above the median(I better check the parameters of the coding:) )

How do you copy and paste the output screen to the checking program so that the slider control works? I want to show some readings which do not coincide with my manual checking. Differences can be substantial.

I am looking at my alpha4,bravo4 etc files. These are 4 number groupings and there are 12 in each file and they replicate coin tossing as each group has a 50% probability in the 6/49 game. There is a coin tossing link in the Full Spectrum thread. Choose the Polish 5 zloty coin as it is easy to read and nice to look at. Spend time tossing coins and noting what they do. This builds up intuition and that is where we are smarter than computers. There is one thing I picked up, beware of 0 0 cycles. Some time ago I made a prediction of what would not come up next draw and many came up in the draw after. This was based on the 0 0, and 0 0 0 cycles.
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Barge

Thinking about those missing 3 numbers. Some time ago in the classified section of the local Durban afternoon paper, there were small classified ads thanking St Jude for his help. This puzzled me for some time. Why were these people doing these things? I did a check on the internet. St Jude is the patron saint of hopeless causes. Now St Jude can assist but when he does you have to make a public acknowledgement(spelling) of his help. Maybe this knowledge might help you:)
 

Springbok

Member
Here is another example of the anti filter. Testing conditions the same as the previous test. Openingbatsmen2-anti is brought into action. 31 pairs are produced. This gives a pool of 21 numbers to eliminate. One number(10) is a winning number. The remaining pool has 28 numbers. 6 of the 7 winning numbers are contained in that pool. Would other anti filters eliminate more numbers?
 

Springbok

Member
Patrick, the automatic checking system is not bringing the result up with opening batsman2-anti in that draw. It is not giving the correct result.
 

barge

Member
Hi Springbok

Any port, as they say, in a storm. I chose my Avatar carefully......as an ex Mariner, and a Scot as well, I need all the help I can get! :agree:
I have been having most success using the a-z on various columns, although occasionally it's the other way round. I seem to lose it every three days or so on the 49s, therefore I am not consistent enough as yet. I also have to knuckle down and take more extensive notes, we have to know where we have been to move forward............
 

barge

Member
Springbok and Patrick123

Hint for Tball tomorrow, Rebal and Double hit and Rebal has been useful over 4 draws recently.
 

struxo

Member
hi barge

For those missing 3 numbers check good old Eliminator and Isolator. If those numbers don't come in Sangoma maybe there's missing numbers :thumb:
good luck
 

blitzed

Member
Springbok said:
Thinking about those missing 3 numbers. Some time ago in the classified section of the local Durban afternoon paper, there were small classified ads thanking St Jude for his help. This puzzled me for some time. Why were these people doing these things? I did a check on the internet. St Jude is the patron saint of hopeless causes. Now St Jude can assist but when he does you have to make a public acknowledgement(spelling) of his help. Maybe this knowledge might help you:)

perhaps Patrick can include a Sangoma panic button with the label Hey Jude!
blitzed:rolling:
 

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