Sangoma-number divination

Patrick123

Member
Hi Springbok,
I saw most of the balls drawn were only from a few draws back, with I think the max was only 8 draws ago. But now 41 is starting to show critical mass,at 500 draws it is showing 100% with 7 other numbers. I would keep 2,41 and 44 and possibly scrutinise 48.

Hi barge,
version 1.0 of the program was running a random selection of 50 pairs. Version 2.0 looks at all the possible combinations of the pairs and triplets. I added in mode, purely to complete the statistical analysis, the is usually defined as the value that occurs the most frequent. i.e. a skip list of 0,1,5,2,8,2,3,2,5,2,7,4 would give a mode of 2.
Regards
Patrick
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Patrick
I have cut the ANY 7 filter from MDIED. This shows you how far back each draw went to incorporate the winning numbers. Today's lunchtime draw shows the pool went back 9 draws(count starts at 0). So no high skip ball would have come out. Notice the previous 2 draws(on Sunday) when each ball of the two draws had a skip of 24. That's when the two highly rated pairs hit each time. As a matter of interest the plus/minus signs indicate the direction of the filter. Two consecutive plus signs indicates the filter will drop and vice versa for the minus sign. One could even think that for maximum safety we should be looking for a number pair whose real numbers are well within the median but show a historical high. I will check into this. I have a distinct preference for a next draw hit.

Any 7

median
16
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8-
23
23+
11+
10-
16-
21+
10-
24+
18-
41+
10-
15-
22+
16+
4-
14-
21+
19+
12-
 

Springbok

Member
Simulated file vs real number file

I created a simulated file and put the last 8 real draws on top. Ran the pairs evaluation program. The last four real numbers were skipped and used for checking. Then I did exactly the same test using only the real number drawings. Look and see how the number pairs are evaluated . Only the 100% rated pairs are taken.
simulated file XP1
{9, 25} skip 19 hit 3rd
{9, 40} skip 26 hit 1st
{25, 40}skip 19 hit 1st
{25, 42}skip 14 hit 3rd
{25, 49}skip 17 hit 1st
{28, 40}skip 19 hit 1st
{40, 49}skip 17 hit 1st

Now taking the same pairings we evaluate them with the real number file.
Real number file
{9. 25} skip 5 no evaluation
{9, 40} skip 5 no evaluation
{25,40}skip 10 no evaluation
{25,42} skip 5 no evaluation
{25, 49} skip 4 no evaluation
{28, 40} skip 7 no evaluation
{40, 49} skip 4 no evaluation

The question is, if we created say 3 simulated files and took the highest rated pair from each with the largest skip. Would we not be able to have 2 or 3 pairs hitting in the next line? Each simulated file is like a parallel universe, the only point of contact is the last 4 draws on top. Each simulated file looks at the real numbers from a different perspective. One could go a step further. If we had 6 simulated files, would they give us 6 multiple hits in the next draw? Next question, are the real draws apart from the last 4 of any real significance?
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Springbok, that is quite interesting, I would have though we'd need more than the last 4 draws so as to at least get a bit more info on the last true draw of more of the pairs or trips. As you imply, are these simulated files somehow linked to the draws, or could we take the uk 49's and predict the SA lottery with them?
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Patrick
I don't see why you could not take the Uk draws and use them to predict the SA draws or vice versa. When you look at it they are all supposedly random. Why not generate draws on the computer, I took 4 real draws for no reason at all. I suppose you could take 6 or 8. I am not sure really how these simulated draws work they just seem to work. Earlier this evening while experimenting I managed to achieve 3 hits with the highest rated pairs from two different simulated files on the real draw. As far as I can see the machine that shoots out the real draws has no knowledge of what has happened previously. Tomorrow I will try simulated draws with no real draws at all and see whatsup in predicting. The fact is real draws do help and so do simulated draws. I will also try and produce very clean simulated files which should be super simulated.
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Springbok, there also seems to be an issue of the best sample size to take. Using the last 100 draws, 4 numbers are predicted for last nights teatime draw {2,33,41,45} of which 3 came in. No matter what sample size, you use, 41 comes through, but the more granular sample sometimes kicks up the maverick numbers, unless it was coincidence.
 

Tomas

Member
I've been following this thread and I guess I'm dense upstairs, so could Patrick123 or Springbok tell me how you get numbers like in the previous thread. I Play 5/39 and like using bankers to play. Sure would appreciate it.

Thanks
Tomas
 

Springbok

Member
When I reasoned on my preference for the 41 for yesterday's draws was based on a sample of 200. What sample size should be used? Well chasing pairs, it seems that 1000 mark is fine. If you cannot find 100% then drop the size until you do. Take note of the less than 100% ratings in the 1000 size sample and see if any of the numbers occur in the best rated 100% types we might come across using smaller samples. That was why I was suspicious of 41 not been in the 100% recommendation of {2, 44} on the smaller sample. When we eventually start to look for pairs sitting on their medians or appearing in the last draw then the sample size will be much smaller. It is actually easier to use trips sitting on their medians becayse their medians tend to be 1. Anyway, what we have so far is a damn fine way of chasing a number pair to bet on within the 4 draw cycle. Hey Fullhouse, if you are reading this, throw away the grids and use computing power and sangoma. Exactly the same principle that you mentioned when you introduced the isolator. Also you can bet basically every day. Your wealth should increase substantialy.
 

Springbok

Member
Hello Tomas

First of all you need a data file of the drawings of your lottery. Top of the file is the very last draw. So the file is in ascending order. You need to convert the file in Excel. Load it into Excel, copy it and move it 2 blocks to the right. This will leave the first 2 columns blank, Save it into the same folder as Patrick's software. Now load the file into the software. Tick date field, and key field as you will have neither. Once loaded click on ball analysis and then later on pairs.Do that and later on we will explain more. Your computer is going to need plenty memory. If you get a warning about the creation of virtual memory then you need more memory. My desktop has at least 500 megabytes of memory and has no problem. My 165 megabyte memory on my old laptop is not enough, it makes it sweat. You will need to adjust your thinking about lotteries. This will take time. You will need to understand the logic behind the sangoma program. Read all the posts and try and follow the thinking and its developments. At the moment we are trying to catch one number in a pair hopefully in the very next draw. If you cannot catch a pair in the next draw or so then you will not catch all the remaining slots in your lottery. so we first have to catch that pair. This will give you two bankers. One should be correct.
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Tomas, In a nutshell, what we do is to take all the possible pair and triple combinations and convert them into a unique reference, then analyze their hit/skip performance where any of the balls involved would produce a hit value. It brings up the ball's behavior in relation to the other numbers much quicker then analyzing the individual balls to the level where we can predict at least one or more balls being drawn with nearly 100% accuracy. I'd suggest you follow the 'Isolator' threads also in this sub-forum for more detailed information.
Regards
Patrick
 

Tomas

Member
Ah Ha now it makes more sense. When I use smaller data files I don't get those 100% numbers. I will check out the Isolator threads and appreciate both your comments. If your looking for true random combinations you might want to check out random dot org.
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Springbok, yes now that 41 is out of the way, maybe the numbers will look more normal. It looks like {2,44} is now the pair to watch.
 

Springbok

Member
You got it Patrick. We are looking at {2, 44} . I also found a killer trip {25,44,48} on 15 skips. This may well point to 44 as going to drop in today, hopefully lunchtime. I am not fully conversant with looking at trips on the program being more used to alpha, beta files etc. Let's see what happens.
 

Patrick123

Member
I'm playing around with a formula for the Draw Probability on all the numbers, at this stage it is throwing out:
44@98
2@98
14@95
48@94
46@93
25@92
31@92
and from the previous draw
27@91
43@90

Though there is still a lot to do on the formula.
 

Springbok

Member
Reading the "bones"-median sitters(draadsitters)

Patrick here is an example of the median sitters. In all 16 trips in the gamma file only these two sit on the median. Theory says one of them should hit lunchtime ie there is a 50% that each should drop in. Looking at the patterns I would go for gamma5. For gamma7 to drop in it would be showing regularity which does not occur in lotteries. Of course gamma5 decide to do something else. To be very confident about it I would prefer to see a 3 previous consecutive skips above the median. I assume I am using the correct Afrikaans terminology for a fence-sitter.

* Gamma 5 * Hits: 43 {3, 16, 39}
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* Skips >>>>> 1 3 1 4 2 0 0 4 0 0 1 2 1 4 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 3 2 1 2 2 0 0 1 3 0 2 0 3 0 1 2 0 0 2 1 3 0 * Sorted Skips: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 ** Skip Median: 1

* Gamma 7 * Hits: 36 {11, 19,49}
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* Skips >>>>> 1 0 1 0 3 1 8 2 1 2 3 0 3 0 1 3 0 1 1 3 2 7 0 0 3 1 1 0 2 0 0 4 0 2 2 5 * Sorted Skips: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 5 7 8 ** Skip Median: 1
 

Patrick123

Member
Yes, your Afrikaans terminology is correct :) I'll most probably start working on the highlighting of the 'draadsitters' today or tomorrow.
 

Springbok

Member
Patrick, seeing you are looking at numbers you think may not appear, I will try and do he same. I looked at iota, beta and gamma files. Any trip that appeared at least twice in the last 2 draws is discounted. This is a bit of a cavalier approach as I prefer to use pairs. But what the hell, lets suck and see.:) The numbers should not appear at lunchtime(unless there is a rogue trip or two). {1,3,4,7,8,10,17,19,20,21,24,25,28,29,30,33,35,42,43,45} Statistically 3 or 4 should appear at lunchtime. But this should not happen. I could bring more files into operation but I would really be pushing my luck. Had 2 or 44 appeared in the list I would be very upset. Is this a good omen?:) Are the bones speaking to me:) :)
 

Patrick123

Member
Yes this is essentially what I'm doing, trying to compress the sheer volume of information into a summary working the one side that says these are sure to hit & the other that says these are sure not to hit. Then it's just the guys in the middle to sort out :)
 

Springbok

Member
Just to sneak this one in before the draw. These come from 2 simulated files.{22,23} and 2{23,32}. They have no ratings according to the real number file.
 

Springbok

Member
Just checked the lunchtime draw. Our real number pair are not in yet. Fence sitter Gamma5 with no 16 arrived as we expected. Both the simulated pairs hit with one of them hitting twice-this does not usually happen. Two numbers hit in the recommended deletions.:burnt: The simulated pairs had high skips of 27. the simulated pairs had the last 4 real draws on top of the simulated file. We await teatime draw for are real number pair. Later will find another pair from the simulated files. I have 10 to choose from.
 

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