# Picks Aug.2

#### Nick Koutras

##### Member
hot4 said:
Hi Nick,

only today I got to see this forum (database problem ?!).

I cannot tell you now how many draws I used to get my last group of 17 numbers. May be you used a different amount of past draws ...

But may be my history file is different from yours and not correct. I'll check that.

These groups of 17 numbers are the *only* having no triplet? Or can you get more?

Frank

Hi Frank..

>> These groups of 17 numbers are the *only* having no triplet? Or can you get more?

Yes, many more...

#### Nick Koutras

##### Member
hot4 said:
Ok Nick!

For those not believing in any advantage of these groups, there are two bets:

First- 3 numbers will come in every group in next 5 draws;

Second- 57 lines with Max=4 Min=1 hit better than 1:57

I think that this way of thinking can get the most of these groups IF really they will hit from 1 to 4 numbers.

There is another way too: to use only 3 numbers (Max=3 Min=3) from one group (e.g. the first) and 1 to 4 numbers of the remaining 3 groups. LOf course players must wait till 3 numbers matching.

LottoDesigner can make such wheel in two clicks.

Frank

Results:
02040910111619232427353638394243
02030409101618192327343536394243
02060911161823242735363839404243
01020306091023273135363839404243
01020306091018212327353638394043

G_1=4
G_2=3
G_3=3
G_4=3
G_5=2

Any conclusions?

#### hot4

##### Member
Nick Koutras said:
Results:
02040910111619232427353638394243
02030409101618192327343536394243
02060911161823242735363839404243
01020306091023273135363839404243
01020306091018212327353638394043

G_1=4
G_2=3
G_3=3
G_4=3
G_5=2

Any conclusions?

Yes, the majority of the 5 groups hit better than expected (2).

This advantage makes players to think about the best way to wheel these groups.

I think all three bets have been good. To wheel every group in 16,6,?,6 would not be a good way to explore the advantage.

Till now I cannot see a better way to *try_and_get* the slight advantage from this strategy.

I'd like to know some other opinions, meanwhile.

Frank

#### hot4

##### Member
Nick Koutras said:
Hi Frank..

>> These groups of 17 numbers are the *only* having no triplet? Or can you get more?

Yes, many more...

I like to get the minimum possible amount (the most overdue groups), so that I can compare groups easier.

To choose from a big set of groups is more difficult. But till now I'm not sure that >=3 hits are associated with the *most* overdue and that, those groups having 3hits this draw will not have 3 again next draws.

Frank

#### Nick Koutras

##### Member
hot4 said:
Yes, the majority of the 5 groups hit better than expected (2).

This advantage makes players to think about the best way to wheel these groups.

I think all three bets have been good. To wheel every group in 16,6,?,6 would not be a good way to explore the advantage.

Till now I cannot see a better way to *try_and_get* the slight advantage from this strategy.

I'd like to know some other opinions, meanwhile.

Frank

Hi Frank,

What I have noticed is that
the frequency of the Triplet of 16,27,38
does belong to at least 3 of the 5 groups.
This is an indicator that we shall use
Triplets from these Groups with the highest frequncy.

#### hot4

##### Member
Nick Koutras said:
Hi Frank,

What I have noticed is that
the frequency of the Triplet of 16,27,38
does belong to at least 3 of the 5 groups.
This is an indicator that we shall use
Triplets from these Groups with the highest frequncy.

Yes Nick,

and we can make another good assumption:

these triplets frequently appear <= 4 next draw.

It's possible to reduce in a good percentage winner lines.

Frank