pick 3 system/ program forecasting doubles

A doubles draw (including triples) is a coveted draw as the payout is much better than a singles draw. Excluding the relatively rare possibility for triples, the payout for a doubles draw is $300 ($1 ticket) at the best paying sites. At the local state level doubles payouts have been as high as approximately $220, but generally they are less than $200, and you also have the disadvantage of not having the flexibility to play a game that might be a better candidate for a doubles play.

For a boxed play, to cover all possibilities, it takes 100 combinations. With a $300 payout you have 2 chances to make some money, 3 to break even, and then you have to increase your commitment to go 4 draws out or more.

There are means of filtering out a key number, a root, even/odd, triples, and so on, to reduce the size of the bet, but the gross total to make sure nothing is missed (i.e. you win if a doubles hits) 100 combinations are required:

Code:
000,111,222,333,444,555,666,777,888,999,001,002,003,004,005,006,007,008,009,011,022,033,044,055,066,077,088,099,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,122,133,144,155,166,177,188,199,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,233,244,255,266,277,288,299,334,335,336,337,338,339,344,355,366,377,388,399,445,446,447,448,449,455,466,477,488,499,556,557,558,559,566,577,588,599,667,668,669,677,688,699,778,779,788,799,889,899


Although I do not have a precise formula yet for determining to the day, or at least within a few draws, when a doubles draw will play, a step in that direction (just one way to go at it) is to start with looking at the statistical extremes of consecutive singles play.

In this current 361 draw period (as of today) the maximum number of consecutive singles plays is 22. In the last two years I have seen 29 (CAE). So if you wait until a draw is, let's say, x number of draws beyond the max for all games, to start play, the odds of hitting in a few draws are at least better than a blind bet.

Another approach is to wait until an individual game is reaching its max, decide on x number of draws past the old max, and then play. For example, Pennsylvania Evening has had 16 consecutive singles plays, which happens to be 100% of its max in the last 361 draws. I have not thoroughly tested this idea, but on the face of it, we 'should' see a doubles draw in PAE within 4 draws.

Another approach is similar, but this time we look for the games with the lowest maximum count of consecutive singles play, and play within 1 to 2 draws of the current max, or maybe play if the max gets hit.

The games in this category are:

QC - 11
ID - 11
NJE - 11
NM - 11
NYD - 11
KYD - 10
CTE - 10

Another factor to look at is percentage of singles play in the last 30 draws to fine tune the above:

QC - 83.3%
ID - 73.3%
NJE - 63.3%
NM - 76.7%
NYD - 70.0%
KYD - 76.7%
CTE - 76.7%

When we combine the two we see New Jersey Evening (NJE) as the most likely (near term) to play a duplicate in a draw.

Currently NJE has played 5 consecutive singles plays with a current max of 11. If NJE gets out to 8 or so, then based on this approach, it would be in play for a duplicate draw.

Another approach is to look at the games that have been the hottest draws for duplicates in the last 30 draws.

VAD - 50%
PAD - 46.7%
TXE - 43.3%
NYE - 36.7%
MOE - 36.7%
WI - 36.7%
NJE - 36.7%

It is interesting to note that, with the exception of TXE (1) and NJE (5) all of these games just hit a doubles.

In terms of overall max consecutive singles play the current hottest doubles players look like this:

VAD - 14
PAD - 22
TXE - 13
NYE - 16
MOE - 13
WI - 13
NJE - 11

So if we 'throw out' PAD, we see that the currently hottest doubles players have relatively low max's for consecutive singles play, for a mean of 13, which is 3 off the low and 8 off the current high.

So perhaps what we should focus on is games (in this approach) where the max is no more than +2 above the mean AND where they have shown at least x number of consecutive singles plays.

Exactly what to assign to x is tricky, obviously. A percentage of the mean?

Based on the above, PAD and NJE are the best near term candidates for a doubles play based on the known data.

While it is very helpful to have a program that can deliver the stats, their interpretation is still up to the user. But I have found having them is better than not, as it helps me to easily develop and test ideas. The good ones I keep, the bad ones i throw out.
 

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Pick 3 Turbo Pl said:
...the payout for a doubles draw is $300 ($1 ticket) at the best paying sites. At the local state level doubles payouts have been as high as approximately $220, but generally they are less than $200...
My last good win was on a gamble that back to back doubles would strike. My $1 straight/box split in CA Daily 3 paid out $429 which is better than many straights pay out heh!

Pick 3 Turbo Pl said:
For a boxed play, to cover all possibilities, it takes 100 combinations.
I bet the most probable doubles if recent draw behavior seems to be stickin to expected probabilities.

Pick 3 Turbo Pl said:
a step in that direction (just one way to go at it) is to start with looking at the statistical extremes of consecutive singles play. In this current 361 draw period (as of today) the maximum number of consecutive singles plays is 22. In the last two years I have seen 29 (CAE). So if you wait until a draw is, let's say, x number of draws beyond the max for all games, to start play, the odds of hitting in a few draws are at least better than a blind bet.
Yup, that is part of what I watch too. Also, when seeking double digit candidates, I like digits which have been out 6 draws or more. That seems to be a pretty safe thresh-hold.

Also, most importantly if a game is demonstrating fishy behavior with an absurdly hot digits, then I'll sit out and wait for it to normalize. A perfect example is the recent CA Daily 3:

1 4 6
6 8 4
8 6 5
8 4 6
6 4 6
1 3 8
8 2 1
6 2 1

:dang: blitzed
 
blitzed said:
My last good win was on a gamble that back to back doubles would strike. My $1 straight/box split in CA Daily 3 paid out $429
That is pretty lucky. To play just *one* three number combination and come out with $429 is good old fashioned luck. The odds of that happening (a straight win) are 1 in 1000.

A straight win online, by the way is $900. If you had played online and played a 50 cent boxed bet on one combination and a 50 cent straight bet you'd have won $450 on the straight side. I am running a program right now on all CAD draws in the last year to show what the payouts were. This is coming right from the lottery site.
 
NJE hit as forecast

Pick 3 Turbo Pl said:
Based on the above, PAD and NJE are the best near term candidates for a doubles play based on the known data.

As noted above, NJE in fact played a doubles tonight - 779.

I need to correct the PAD to PAE. It is Pennsylvania evening that is also a good candidate for a doubles play.

PAE is - coincidenally - also set for a root repeat play within approximately 7 draws.
 
Payout History California Mid Day

In regards to payouts, here is the data from the CA lottery web site (I ran a program to pull this data from the site, as it is not readily available in the form you see below):

CAD Payouts 8/25/05-11/03/06 328 draws
Singles draws 76%
Straight Boxed St/Box Box only
Average 533 84 309 42
Maximum 881 140 511 70
Minimum 273 42 158 21


CAD Payouts 8/25/05-11/03/06 102 draws
Doubles + 3 triples plays draws 24%
Straight Boxed St/Box Box only
Average 559 180 371 90
Maximum 807 258 532 129
Minimum 255 120 249 60

source: http://www.calottery.com


as one can see, the maximum payout for a singles boxed draw was $140, with the average being a paltry $84 ($1 tickets)

The doubles payouts show a maximum of $259, with an average of $180, about consistent with my earlier post. If you check the data for all the states you'll find these figures to be generally the norm.

for all of the raw data, http://pick3.hits.io/cadpayout.doc (a word document)

Online payouts at the highest paying sites are nearly double the state's payouts. Higher payouts are not only good because they give a player more money, but they lower the odds of losing/increase the odds of winning.
 

blitzed

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Pick 3 Turbo Pl said:
That is pretty lucky. To play just *one* three number combination and come out with $429 is good old fashioned luck. The odds of that happening (a straight win) are 1 in 1000.

A straight win online, by the way is $900. If you had played online and played a 50 cent boxed bet on one combination and a 50 cent straight bet you'd have won $450 on the straight side. I am running a program right now on all CAD draws in the last year to show what the payouts were. This is coming right from the lottery site.

Yup. It wasn't entirely luck...I was using my system and playing probabilities. The luck aspect was on the gamble that back to back doubles would hit :)

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blitzed

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Pick 3 Turbo Pl said:
90 boxed combinations doubles
10 triples
120 singles

When i speak of doubles i tend to lump the triples in with em, for 100.

Sometimes triples don't hit for over a year. I only play one if my system gives me an indicator that a certain triple is primed to hit.

For example, on CA Daily 3 Eve 08OCT I might play 333 for the heck of it. 3 has been out of the 1st position for 24 draws, and out of 2nd position for 8 draws, and out of 3rd position for 11 draws. Doubles were drawn tonight though, and they hit back to back last time...but who knows...maybe 333 will spill out...or spill out soon if the alignment doesn't get knocked out.

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