ON/49 Discussion for Feb 19 2005

[mirage]

in draw 772, 43 was the bonus.. the count of winning numbers doesn't include the bonus. so if you see that 772 had 5 winners, but there is 6 listed, that mean 5+B was also possible for that draw..

as for draw 762, ya, 37 numbers is still a high set, but 6/37 is only 2.3 million combinations instead of 13.9 million. and if you use that program I made you, hmm, maybe 762 is a bad example, but by using the 0 to 2 limit on the rows and columns will drop a lot of 'unlikely' combinations.. Ahh, just noticed too that you aren't using the bonus number when you scratch rows/columns.. The way I do it, the top row would be scratched too, so that would only be 33 numbers without using the 'repeats' 6/33 is only 1.1 million combinations

Good Day Snides,

I seem to have a touch of a flu or something.
Yeah I do use the bonus number in the scratch, but looking for results that are just jackpot numbers. Yesterday spent $50 trying to cover all reasonable bases but won only $25 in Ont 6/49. Better than odds of 1 in 57 but not the jackpot. There was by my count a total of 5 scratch numbers. I was not figuring on there being 4 numbers in one decade (the 20's). Such are the inherent problems with filtering. Based on your snapshot stats of the last 6 months, having had a lot of draws with at least 5 numbers recently we must be due for draws with fewer scratch numbers, soon, starting next draw or the one after. Or do you think it's a mistake to make this assumption?

 

[Snides]

Fewer scratch numbers coming? Ya, maybe, or maybe not.. One never knows..

I think I'm going to use the scratch method combined with one other thing and some loose filters for quite some time. Lately I've been doing some experimenting, and havn't really won much. I think picking one method and sticking to it is probably the best way.. Too many times I have tried something else and then looked at the other methods only to see that it would have been a good draw to use them..

Even if the number of winners in the scratch method goes down, there is still some good chances to make a profit.. look at draw 764 - 3 from 19, 0 to 2 per row/column filter works, 4 to 5 from last draw works, no more than 2 same skips, and other filters fall into place..

 

[mirage]

Fewer scratch numbers coming? Ya, maybe, or maybe not.. One never knows..

I think I'm going to use the scratch method combined with one other thing and some loose filters for quite some time. Lately I've been doing some experimenting, and havn't really won much. I think picking one method and sticking to it is probably the best way.. Too many times I have tried something else and then looked at the other methods only to see that it would have been a good draw to use them..

Even if the number of winners in the scratch method goes down, there is still some good chances to make a profit.. look at draw 764 - 3 from 19, 0 to 2 per row/column filter works, 4 to 5 from last draw works, no more than 2 same skips, and other filters fall into place..

29 by my count numbers falling into scratch category -a bit below the average per your stats. However, seems to me we are overdue for the intersection numbers and primes, so I would expect at least one from the intersections, which also happen to be mostly primes: 5, 29, 43, 47 (and non primes, 1 & 33.) [or maybe thinking: 43 or 47 too "logical" - maybe 5 or cold 29 instead. On the other hand...]

On a Wed. night On 649 draw I often look to what I call the "Lottario effect", - I know, sounds really wacko, but let's just see, hmmm.... I stare at a graph of number Lottario hits and look at the curves that seem to be forming in the Lottario draw - looks like hits are getting ready to happen in the 14 to 21 range. If I were going to pick, I'd say, 14-15-16, or 19-20-21. Therefore I would play (some of) those numbers for Ont 6/49 or perhaps another number adjacent to a Lottario number that may hit next draw - like 5.

But I also agree, narrowing your method(s) down to just a few and sticking with those, leaving the rest loose, best way to go. Narrow a few filters down to tight to corner the numbers, and leave the rest loose.

 

[mirage]

Hello Snides,

How are you doing? How's your health?

Haven't heard from you, don't know if you are read my last post, hope you are OK--- (maybe other people have me on "ignore" if not officially then they see my name and just don't read my post --- not necessarily a bad thing in my books..) But between Gsobiers tip of many repeaters on Ont 649 and your Scratch plus my "Lottario effect", didn't do too badly last night... Spent $14 won $75.
Geez, though the 9, the 18 and the 27 -- unreal the repeaters and if I was to choose a main # number for the Lottario effect if would have been the 15. This usually means those "Lottario numbers" wont show in next Sat's Lottario draw. The Lottario effect seems to happen about half the time. (Just like everything else-or is this just psychological?)
Also, we are a little below expected primes still.
Should I start an Ont 649 discussion thread? There doesn't seem to be much interest.

 

[Snides]

Nice Job on the $75 win! I didn't play any repeaters, so you can imagine how bad I did..

I did reply to your post here hmm, a night or two ago? but when I went to hit submit, the website had gone down and all my typing was wasted because my post was lost..

my health was ok, seems the longer it is from the antibiotics I was taking, the worse I feel.. had the super-chills today, starting around 3:00 and lasting until I got in the nice hot Jacuzzi.. Left tube is still burbling, right ear is slightly painful, must be sealing up now that the tube is gone..

about yer post up there.. one of the intersection numbers came in too.. and that 'Lottario effect' looks good. I've always tracked super7, 6/49 and ON/49 and how they interact with each other as far as passing numbers around, and now I'll hafta add Lottario into the system..

yes, might as well start up a new discussion, should probably do a separate one for each draw, otherwise we'll end up with a super long thread like we did discussing the program you wanted and it would be a bit easier for others to join in and see how well we're doing cus they won't think we're only discussing one draw in particular..

 

[mirage]

Nice Job on the $75 win! I didn't play any repeaters, so you can imagine how bad I did..

I did reply to your post here hmm, a night or two ago? but when I went to hit submit, the website had gone down and all my typing was wasted because my post was lost..

my health was ok, seems the longer it is from the antibiotics I was taking, the worse I feel.. had the super-chills today, starting around 3:00 and lasting until I got in the nice hot Jacuzzi.. Left tube is still burbling, right ear is slightly painful, must be sealing up now that the tube is gone..

about yer post up there.. one of the intersection numbers came in too.. and that 'Lottario effect' looks good. I've always tracked super7, 6/49 and ON/49 and how they interact with each other as far as passing numbers around, and now I'll hafta add Lottario into the system..

yes, might as well start up a new discussion, should probably do a separate one for each draw, otherwise we'll end up with a super long thread like we did discussing the program you wanted and it would be a bit easier for others to join in and see how well we're doing cus they won't think we're only discussing one draw in particular..

Hello Snides,

Sorry it's been a few days to reply.
I didn't know how to respond or what to do when you suggested starting a new thread. I don't think I have as much time to spend on the BB or pour over this lotto business as other people on the board seem to have. I also don't have their resources. (Plus I'm not very organized). So I hesitated. But I did want to respond to your health info a bit as it is a concern. Good thing for the jacuzzi, and to me it sounds like as you I think said, you've had to learn to live with the health problems over a long period of time. Even so I'm sure doesn't make it any easier and in some ways maybe worse.
Do you think you will get the tube in your right ear replaced?

 

[Snides]

Depending on the results from my hearing test on March 24th, it will be decided then whether I'll get a tube put back in my right ear.. I'm guessing it probably will happen, but there does seem to be a lot of movement going on right now.. my left ear feels quite good, right ear feels slightly clogged, and i'm blowing my nose a lot more, so it could clear out without another tube.. I've noticed quite a few things are louder and sound different, my voice sounds different, louder and clearer, it's like going through puberty again

My sister has a cold, and she passed out walking to her room to get in bed. she said her Doc told her that it is common with the cold going around right now that stuffs up yer nose and ears so bad it throws off your equillibrium.. I told her after 5 or 6 years she would get 'used to it' like I am...

So ya.. learning to live with it, while it does suck, I've also gotten used to things.. and now that it's clearing up a bit, many things seem different.. mostly the sound of my voice and some things that i'm starting to hear clearer... like the lyrics of some songs, even really old songs, I've always thought they were singing one thing, and now i can hear that it's something totally different that they are singing.. quite a surprising difference.. almost like i've been half-deaf for a decade..

 

[Snides]

Wow, that was a high skip sum for the march 9th ON/49 at 72, but I guess it was due since there hasn't been a skip sum of 72 for a year..

That and the 3 from the one column (which was a stupid oversight on my part), not to mention the 31 coming as an intersection number... I was about to force 3 or 31 into my wheel but I didn't..

Oh well, I spent $10 and doubled my money, I get $20 back..

Hope you did well on that one Mirage! just using the scratch numbers you could have had 4+B in 19 numbers, and by adding in 'force 1 - allow 2' repeaters could've gotten 6+B in 25 numbers without adding too many combinations..

 

[mirage]

Wow, that was a high skip sum for the march 9th ON/49 at 72, but I guess it was due since there hasn't been a skip sum of 72 for a year..

That and the 3 from the one column (which was a stupid oversight on my part), not to mention the 31 coming as an intersection number... I was about to force 3 or 31 into my wheel but I didn't..

Oh well, I spent $10 and doubled my money, I get $20 back..

Hope you did well on that one Mirage! just using the scratch numbers you could have had 4+B in 19 numbers, and by adding in 'force 1 - allow 2' repeaters could've gotten 6+B in 25 numbers without adding too many combinations..

Congratulations on your win Snides!
Personally I only won $5 on $15 play. I should have played more combinations. But I thought with only 19 numbers in scratch and so many recent hits in scratch we must be due for a correction. I was wrong.

However, I thought we were overdue for primes. If I'd only just played all those primes in the scratch and with the 4 + B in only 19 numbers, plus the 2 repeats - Could have, Should have, been a Stellar win. The high sum (low/high ratio) plus the 5 to 1 odd/even, and the high sum skips threw me off. Also, to guess 32 would have been a long shot, even though there's a gap in my graph chart that's been looking kind of too empty for a while now (numbers 28 through 33). Now no longer empty. Even a 2nd prize could have been within reach. Wow. Oh well, live and learn!