Math Help

Karnac

Member
I'm looking for a little math help to decide whether this system I'm reassessing has merit or are it's results the expected values or greater.

I backchecked 100 draws.
Using 15 numbers each draw at a particular setting I hit for a minimum of 3 numbers in 44 draws.
Here is the breakdown:
29 x 3 numbers
13 x 4 "
2 x 5 "

A second setting using 15 numbers hit a minimum 3 in 40 draws.
Here is the breakdown:
26 x 3 numbers
7 x 4 "
5 x 5 "
2 x 6 "

A third setting using 15 numbers hit a minimum of 3 in 39 draws
Here is the breakdown:
26 x 3 numbers
9 x 4 "
3 x 5 "
1 X 7 " Amazing:kaioken:

Bonus incl.
My question ... Mathwise, is this normal distribution of hits or above normal and worth pursuing ?
 

hot4

Member
Karnac,

from a set of 15 numbers (in a lotto 6/49) it's expected (without bonus):

3_hits: 1 in 5,14 draws
4_hits: 1 in 18,26 draws
5_hits: 1 in 136,96 draws
6_hits: 1 in 2794 draws

In 100 draws expect:

19,45 *3_hits*
5,47 *4_hits*
0,73 *5_hits*
0,035 *6_hits*

Indeed the 3 sets hit better than expected in 3_hits, 4_hits and 5_hits but that can be caused by the bonus number. I suggest you to make the calculations without bonus, namely for these three prizes. If you want to study the 2+b and the 2nd prizes, then include the bonus. :agree2:
 

GillesD

Member
Probabilities for a good system

Karnac,

Using the formula =COMBIN(15,N)*COMBIN(49-15,6-N)/COMBIN(49,6) where N is the number of winning numbers, I get the following probabilities:

- getting 3 numbers right: 19.47%;
- getting 4 numbers right: 5.48%;
- getting 5 numbers right: 0.73%;
- getting 6 or more numbers right: 0.04%.

Your winning ratios are definitely higher than that, so you may have something.

I hope you will use this system of yours in a very formal experiment for another 6/49 lottery in the new year. Hope to see you there.

hHot4 - you beat me to it, but at least we agree on the values
 

Karnac

Member
Thank you gentlemen for assisting. Here are the values without the bonus ball.

Using 15 numbers I hit a minimum 3 in 28 draws

Here is the breakdown:
20 x 3 numbers
7 x 4 "
1 x 6 "

A second setting using 15 numbers hit a minimum 3 in 28 draws.
Here is the breakdown:
22 x 3 numbers
5 x 4 "
1 x 5 "


A third setting using 15 numbers hit a minimum of 3 in 29 draws
Here is the breakdown:
25 x 3 numbers
2 x 4 "
2 x 5 "
 
Karnac,

Are you referring to your 6 out of 15 Gail Howard "My secrets of winning" chart 7?

How do you press F4 it is a software?
 

Karnac

Member
Grandmaster said:
Karnac,

Are you referring to your 6 out of 15 Gail Howard "My secrets of winning" chart 7?

How do you press F4 it is a software?

Welcome to the Forum, Grandmaster.

I am using GH Advantage Chart 7 to pick these numbers.....Search Karnac Theory on this forum and there are detailed examples of the theory. Best of luck in the new year. Questions always answered.:agree2:
 
Karnac,

Using the formula =COMBIN(15,N)*COMBIN(49-15,6-N)/COMBIN(49,6) where N is the number of winning numbers, I get the following probabilities:

- getting 3 numbers right: 19.47%;
- getting 4 numbers right: 5.48%;
- getting 5 numbers right: 0.73%;
- getting 6 or more numbers right: 0.04%.

Your winning ratios are definitely higher than that, so you may have something.

I hope you will use this system of yours in a very formal experiment for another 6/49 lottery in the new year. Hope to see you there.

hHot4 - you beat me to it, but at least we agree on the values

GillesD, Karnac,

LottoStatistcsXLp (Nick Koutras) has the next formula for 15 numbers in average:

Wins 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Expected 6.3 23.5 34 24.6 9.5 2 0.2 0

Then I would expect 25 hits of 3 in 100,
also 10 hits of 4 in 100 , 2 of 5 in 100 and 0.2 of 6 in 100..


GillesD,

Your formula is correct, only change to 7 instead of 6 in case of 6/49+B:

=COMBIN(15,N)*COMBIN(49-15,7-N)/COMBIN(49,7)


Karnac,

I suppose your results are for 6/49+B, if your test is for 6/49 only then GillesD formula is correct..

Good Luck :wavey:
 
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