June 18 Piks
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Dennis Bassboss
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I guess this kind of speed beats the hell out of Powerball... 
Dennis Bassboss
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Yes I know...very disturbing to say the least....Karnac said:Dennis ,
Perhaps your friend at the lottery office can explain that and if they can't then direct you to someone who can answer it ........the implications of such are criminal to say the least, however the JP wasn't won
I'll figure it out don't worry...
Dennis Bassboss said:I had the results at 9H35 Karnac....sympatico got them at 10:05 ...checked all my tickets before posting these results....If I can have them so soon...Others can have them too...As simple as that...What bothers me is that some terminals in B.C. might still be open at this early time...
BC terminals close at 6:00pm pacific (9:00pm eastern). Then there is at least a 15-minute waiting period (longer if more tickets are sold) before the draw. Since the jackpot was only $2.5 mil, fewer tickets were sold, so the waiting period was short, hence the results posted relatively early.
Dennis Bassboss
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I never believed that crap about a longer waiting period of time if more tickets are sold...No matter how many tickets are sold only 8 numbers are drawn...And they should be always drawn at the same time each Friday or almost at the same time (inside a 5 minutes period of time no longer than that)...Since they usually post the winning numbers whithout giving any details on how many winners actually won...iago31416 said:
I don't buy that crap at all...
Dennis Bassboss said:I never believed that crap about a longer waiting period of time if more tickets are sold......
Interprovincial lotto draws like 6/49 and Super 7 do not commence until the ILC computers have verified the tickets sold by the various regional lotto corps (olgc, bclc, etc..) ... these regional lotto corps do not transfer the sold tickets until after the game closes in the region... if more tickets are sold, it will take longer to transfer and verify those tickets
Dennis Bassboss
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This is not a valid reason for not giving up the winning number...iago31416 said:
Dennis Bassboss said:This is not a valid reason for not giving up the winning number...
If the winning number were drawn / published before all tickets were entered into the main computer, would that not lead to the possibility of conspiracy... i.e. the lotto corps prevent the 6/6 winning ticket from entering the system or a hacker placing a phantom ticket into the system?... Granted, these events are highly improbable and backup measures exist to correct them, but they would cause considerable havoc should they occur...
Dennis Bassboss
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It is still not a valid excuse ...My computer can calculate some data faster than the ones they are using???iago31416 said:
Come on give me a break... Besides...They are not loading every ticket into a main computer...All corporations are loading them at their own computers...And they don't have to put the datas into one computer...When the numbers are drawn ...All the different corporations send to the others their results winners wise... And furthermore...All lotto corporations machines are loaded into the provincial main computer almost instantly as soon as you buy your tickets...That excuse doesn't hold up here..
This is strike 3...they are out...
JaredCenter
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I'd hate to burst everyone's bubble, but if you look under the heading of "How Current?" in sympatico's lottery results, you will see the following:
"Dates and Times are in Eastern Daylight Time (EDT)"
"Dates and Times are in Eastern Daylight Time (EDT)"
Dennis Bassboss
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Well...I had them way before they ever posted them....That will burst any bubles here...JaredCenter said:
Dennis:
I never looked into or bothered to figure out where data goes and why when a ticket is issued... ....there are too many who think they know how things are run related to computers, most of them have no clue... ...to drop down to the level of understanding for the average "Joe", one should start with the concept of the barcode... ...every ticket needs one and it has to be assigned and unique. There are a few choices on how the do the processing... ...every terminal does a LOGON so it does interact with the Server side being call the main computer. This could either be the region/province or national... ...it is easy to identify by region SO, it would make sense to only store the bets only by region because collecting everything national is just plain stupid for us who know how things work in my line of work.
Has anyone tried to claim a prize from a ticket played in one region from another region??? I'd say your ticket purchased in a region is only valid in the region it was issued based on logic and common sense if this rule is true
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There could be processing which would not take all that long for a region to send all the regions to somewhere as national if they want to. The speed of this data transfer all depends on the networking... ...something like a cable mode compared to a dial up for those who are familiar with those things. The data transfer is done when scheduled... ...its entirely up to them if they elect to do this. Each region probably sends a count of tickets sold and summary of the winners in each prize category when results are known.
The processing might be a bit different, there are a few ways to accomplish this task... ...I wonder how it was done back in the 1980's.
Regards,
George
I never looked into or bothered to figure out where data goes and why when a ticket is issued... ....there are too many who think they know how things are run related to computers
, most of them have no clue... ...to drop down to the level of understanding for the average "Joe", one should start with the concept of the barcode... ...every ticket needs one and it has to be assigned and unique. There are a few choices on how the do the processing... ...every terminal does a LOGON so it does interact with the Server side being call the main computer. This could either be the region/province or national... ...it is easy to identify by region SO, it would make sense to only store the bets only by region because collecting everything national is just plain stupid for us who know how things work in my line of work.Has anyone tried to claim a prize from a ticket played in one region from another region??? I'd say your ticket purchased in a region is only valid in the region it was issued based on logic and common sense
if this rule is true.There could be processing which would not take all that long for a region to send all the regions to somewhere as national if they want to. The speed of this data transfer all depends on the networking... ...something like a cable mode compared to a dial up for those who are familiar with those things. The data transfer is done when scheduled... ...its entirely up to them if they elect to do this. Each region probably sends a count of tickets sold and summary of the winners in each prize category when results are known.
The processing might be a bit different, there are a few ways to accomplish this task... ...I wonder how it was done back in the 1980's.
Regards,
George
Dennis Bassboss said:It is still not a valid excuse ...My computer can calculate some data faster than the ones they are using???
Besides...They are not loading every ticket into a main computer...All corporations are loading them at their own computers...And they don't have to put the datas into one computer...When the numbers are drawn ...All the different corporations send to the others their results winners wise... And furthermore...All lotto corporations machines are loaded into the provincial main computer almost instantly as soon as you buy your tickets...That excuse doesn't hold up here..
This is strike 3...they are out...
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Dennis Bassboss
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They have no excuses at all to make us wait ...no matter how many tickets are sold...
What they are looking for when Jacpots are high is that they look if any trust groups are into this....But they'll never know anyways...theire checking is made up in a neandertal fashion...
What they are looking for when Jacpots are high is that they look if any trust groups are into this....But they'll never know anyways...theire checking is made up in a neandertal fashion...
Found this on the Lotterybuddy.com website:
http://lotterybuddy.com
"Before every draw, each of the five regional lottery corporations notifies the ILC in Toronto once it has closed off the participating wagers in its territory.
Each draw is videotaped, witnessed and officially recorded by independent adjudicators.
Once the draw has taken place, the ILC notifies each of the lottery corporations of the winning draw numbers. These corporations then run the results through their computer systems to determine the number of winners in their territory. Afterwards, the corporations send this information to the ILC so it can establish the countrywide prize division."
http://lotterybuddy.com
"Before every draw, each of the five regional lottery corporations notifies the ILC in Toronto once it has closed off the participating wagers in its territory.
Each draw is videotaped, witnessed and officially recorded by independent adjudicators.
Once the draw has taken place, the ILC notifies each of the lottery corporations of the winning draw numbers. These corporations then run the results through their computer systems to determine the number of winners in their territory. Afterwards, the corporations send this information to the ILC so it can establish the countrywide prize division."
Dennis Bassboss
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This reference is not a valid source....Karnac said:
Of course the data are not loaded in one central computer...I have been telling that from the start...
JaredCenter
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Dennis Bassboss said:Well...I had them way before they ever posted them....That will burst any bubles here...
Well, if you think you know it all, then why didn't you get the ticket to win the jackpot? I think you're making this all up.
Dennis Bassboss
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I can't think for you...But if you look at my posting time for this last draw I did posted these before 10 o'clock...JaredCenter said:Well, if you think you know it all, then why didn't you get the ticket to win the jackpot? I think you're making this all up.
Now all of these draws are supposed to be held one hour after the machines are closed country-wise....(Its a lotto law)...
So I'll leave the rest for your very productive imagination...
JaredCenter:
I can't understand why there is discussion about this. It looks like some have the idea the difference in time is a way to cheat some how or have some advantage. The cut-off time for each region is the same exact moment it hits 21:00 in Toronto to keep things simple... ...thats 18:00 in BC and something like 21:30 out east. The Lottery Corporation would not be so stupid to allow a loop-hole involving timezones to exist... ...the same goes for when results are available.
Having results first? Who cares?? Its what you played before the deadline... ...that is what matters most.
Regards,
George
I can't understand why there is discussion about this. It looks like some have the idea the difference in time is a way to cheat
some how or have some advantage. The cut-off time for each region is the same exact moment it hits 21:00 in Toronto to keep things simple... ...thats 18:00 in BC and something like 21:30 out east. The Lottery Corporation would not be so stupid to allow a loop-hole involving timezones to exist... ...the same goes for when results are available.Having results first? Who cares?? Its what you played before the deadline... ...that is what matters most.
Regards,
George
JaredCenter said:
Dennis:
I'm sure they have the results and hold on to them until they are good and ready... ...all I can think of is they have "procedure" they must follow dictated by policy and protocol... ...yep, the same thing those involved in politics love.
Regards,
George
I'm sure they have the results and hold on to them until they are good and ready... ...all I can think of is they have "procedure" they must follow dictated by policy and protocol... ...yep, the same thing those involved in politics love
.Regards,
George
Dennis Bassboss said:They have no excuses at all to make us wait ...no matter how many tickets are sold...
What they are looking for when Jacpots are high is that they look if any trust groups are into this....But they'll never know anyways...theire checking is made up in a neandertal fashion...