full wheel generator

CMF

Member
Scroll down and you will see an advertisement for LottoPro which you can use in demo mode to produce Full Wheels. Navigate to Tickets, Create Favorite Number Sets and select Full Wheels.

Why you would want to use Full Wheels with their excessive repeats of the paying subsets beats me as I rank them just above repeating the same numbers for the set you play. See
ANALYSIS OF 15 LOTTO NUMBER SETS - WORST TO BEST
http://lottoposter.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=583&FID=46&PR=3

Colin Fairbrother
 

zerro

Member
The reason I play full wheels are you are guaranteed a winning ticket if you pick five or six numbers.
Wheels are a guarantee you will not win a major prize. You might have more numbers but no guarantees, only a 3 or 4 number hit.
Wheeling numbers is like buying a car without a motor and expecting to drive it away.
I have hit 5 numbers with a system 7 in powerball and every combination was a winner for about $1000 on top of the 2nd division prize.
A wheeling system would have guaranteed me one 4 wheel prize maybe a few 3s and lucky to break even on the bet.
If you want to win small prizes Go wheeling.
If you want to the big money the only way is with full wheels.
My Ticket
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zerro

Member
Download "Lottery Statistic Anaylser" It has a small exe file included that will not expire when the demo runs out. Just do a search for the combinations.exe after instal.
It does from pick 2 to 8 out of 100 numbers and very fast, It pumps out 6/45 in two minutes, 6/49 in just under 6 minutes.
A few options, Line Numbers, Line Totals, ectra

Pic
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bloubul

Member
Hi zerro

I must agree with Colin, why do you want the full wheel, unless your money supply is very healthy, I'm under correction here perhaps Colin can bail me out, there are about 30% of lines in a full wheel that does not even contain 1 (one) correct number. Rather look in your combinations for 3 or more numbers of the last draw in the same line and remove them.

I'm sorry to say but "Lottery Statistic Anaylser" is not worth the time downloading it, let alone the 10 pounds you have to pay for the license.
All their stuff can be done in Excel

BlouBul :cool:
 

zerro

Member
The suggestion of downloading "Lottery Statistic Anaylser" was for the full wheel generator not the actual software.
Excel takes an hour or more to generate 6/49 on my computer and I have a very fast machine. combinations.exe does it in 6 minutes


Using the numbers 1 3 4 6 7 8
Covermaster hits 5 at most
Full wheels gain multiple hits in all.
My opinion on wheels is as stated in my first post.
If you want to win small prizes Go wheeling.
If you want to the big money the only way is with full wheels.


Covermaster
Wheel 5if6 Hits
1 2 3 4 5 6 4
1 2 3 4 7 8 5
1 2 5 6 7 8 4
1 3 4 5 6 7 5

Full Wheel
8 Numbers Hits
1 2 3 4 5 6 4
1 2 3 4 5 7 4
1 2 3 4 5 8 4
1 2 3 4 6 7 5
1 2 3 4 6 8 5
1 2 3 4 7 8 5
1 2 3 5 6 7 4
1 2 3 5 6 8 4
1 2 3 5 7 8 4
1 2 3 6 7 8 5
1 2 4 5 6 7 4
1 2 4 5 6 8 4
1 2 4 5 7 8 4
1 2 4 6 7 8 5
1 2 5 6 7 8 4
1 3 4 5 6 7 5
1 3 4 5 6 8 5
1 3 4 5 7 8 5
1 3 4 6 7 8 6
1 3 5 6 7 8 5
1 4 5 6 7 8 5
2 3 4 5 6 7 4
2 3 4 5 6 8 4
2 3 4 5 7 8 4
2 3 4 6 7 8 5
2 3 5 6 7 8 4
2 4 5 6 7 8 4
3 4 5 6 7 8 5

Covermaster
Wheel 5if6 Hits
1 2 3 4 5 6 4
1 2 3 4 5 9 3
1 2 3 4 6 8 5
1 2 3 5 6 7 4
1 2 3 7 8 9 4
1 2 4 5 7 8 4
1 3 4 6 7 9 5
2 3 5 6 8 9 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 4

Full Wheel
9 Numbers Hits
1 2 3 4 5 6 4
1 2 3 4 5 7 4
1 2 3 4 5 8 4
1 2 3 4 5 9 3
1 2 3 4 6 7 5
1 2 3 4 6 8 5
1 2 3 4 6 9 4
1 2 3 4 7 8 5
1 2 3 4 7 9 4
1 2 3 4 8 9 4
1 2 3 5 6 7 4
1 2 3 5 6 8 4
1 2 3 5 6 9 3
1 2 3 5 7 8 4
1 2 3 5 7 9 3
1 2 3 5 8 9 3
1 2 3 6 7 8 5
1 2 3 6 7 9 4
1 2 3 6 8 9 4
1 2 3 7 8 9 4
1 2 4 5 6 7 4
1 2 4 5 6 8 4
1 2 4 5 6 9 3
1 2 4 5 7 8 4
1 2 4 5 7 9 3
1 2 4 5 8 9 3
1 2 4 6 7 8 5
1 2 4 6 7 9 4
1 2 4 6 8 9 4
1 2 4 7 8 9 4
1 2 5 6 7 8 4
1 2 5 6 7 9 3
1 2 5 6 8 9 3
1 2 5 7 8 9 3
1 2 6 7 8 9 4
1 3 4 5 6 7 5
1 3 4 5 6 8 5
1 3 4 5 6 9 4
1 3 4 5 7 8 5
1 3 4 5 7 9 4
1 3 4 5 8 9 4
1 3 4 6 7 8 6
1 3 4 6 7 9 5
1 3 4 6 8 9 5
1 3 4 7 8 9 5
1 3 5 6 7 8 5
1 3 5 6 7 9 4
1 3 5 6 8 9 4
1 3 5 7 8 9 4
1 3 6 7 8 9 5
1 4 5 6 7 8 5
1 4 5 6 7 9 4
1 4 5 6 8 9 4
1 4 5 7 8 9 4
1 4 6 7 8 9 5
1 5 6 7 8 9 4
2 3 4 5 6 7 4
2 3 4 5 6 8 4
2 3 4 5 6 9 3
2 3 4 5 7 8 4
2 3 4 5 7 9 3
2 3 4 5 8 9 3
2 3 4 6 7 8 5
2 3 4 6 7 9 4
2 3 4 6 8 9 4
2 3 4 7 8 9 4
2 3 5 6 7 8 4
2 3 5 6 7 9 3
2 3 5 6 8 9 3
2 3 5 7 8 9 3
2 3 6 7 8 9 4
2 4 5 6 7 8 4
2 4 5 6 7 9 3
2 4 5 6 8 9 3
2 4 5 7 8 9 3
2 4 6 7 8 9 4
2 5 6 7 8 9 3
3 4 5 6 7 8 5
3 4 5 6 7 9 4
3 4 5 6 8 9 4
3 4 5 7 8 9 4
3 4 6 7 8 9 5
3 5 6 7 8 9 4
4 5 6 7 8 9 4

Covermaster
Wheel 5if6 Hits
1 2 3 4 5 6 4
1 2 3 4 5 9 3
1 2 3 4 6 8 5
1 2 3 4 6 9 4
1 2 3 4 8 10 4
1 2 3 5 6 7 4
1 2 3 7 8 9 4
1 2 4 5 6 10 3
1 2 4 5 7 8 4
1 2 4 8 9 10 3
1 2 5 7 9 10 2
1 2 6 7 8 10 4
1 3 4 6 7 9 5
1 5 6 8 9 10 3
2 3 5 6 8 9 3
2 4 6 7 9 10 3
3 4 5 7 8 10 4
3 4 6 7 9 10 4
4 5 6 7 8 9 4

Full Wheel
10 Numbers Hits
1 2 3 4 5 6 4
1 2 3 4 5 7 4
1 2 3 4 5 8 4
1 2 3 4 5 9 3
1 2 3 4 5 10 3
1 2 3 4 6 7 5
1 2 3 4 6 8 5
1 2 3 4 6 9 4
1 2 3 4 6 10 4
1 2 3 4 7 8 5
1 2 3 4 7 9 4
1 2 3 4 7 10 4
1 2 3 4 8 9 4
1 2 3 4 8 10 4
1 2 3 4 9 10 3
1 2 3 5 6 7 4
1 2 3 5 6 8 4
1 2 3 5 6 9 3
1 2 3 5 6 10 3
1 2 3 5 7 8 4
1 2 3 5 7 9 3
1 2 3 5 7 10 3
1 2 3 5 8 9 3
1 2 3 5 8 10 3
1 2 3 5 9 10 2
1 2 3 6 7 8 5
1 2 3 6 7 9 4
1 2 3 6 7 10 4
1 2 3 6 8 9 4
1 2 3 6 8 10 4
1 2 3 6 9 10 3
1 2 3 7 8 9 4
1 2 3 7 8 10 4
1 2 3 7 9 10 3
1 2 3 8 9 10 3
1 2 4 5 6 7 4
1 2 4 5 6 8 4
1 2 4 5 6 9 3
1 2 4 5 6 10 3
1 2 4 5 7 8 4
1 2 4 5 7 9 3
1 2 4 5 7 10 3
1 2 4 5 8 9 3
1 2 4 5 8 10 3
1 2 4 5 9 10 2
1 2 4 6 7 8 5
1 2 4 6 7 9 4
1 2 4 6 7 10 4
1 2 4 6 8 9 4
1 2 4 6 8 10 4
1 2 4 6 9 10 3
1 2 4 7 8 9 4
1 2 4 7 8 10 4
1 2 4 7 9 10 3
1 2 4 8 9 10 3
1 2 5 6 7 8 4
1 2 5 6 7 9 3
1 2 5 6 7 10 3
1 2 5 6 8 9 3
1 2 5 6 8 10 3
1 2 5 6 9 10 2
1 2 5 7 8 9 3
1 2 5 7 8 10 3
1 2 5 7 9 10 2
1 2 5 8 9 10 2
1 2 6 7 8 9 4
1 2 6 7 8 10 4
1 2 6 7 9 10 3
1 2 6 8 9 10 3
1 2 7 8 9 10 3
1 3 4 5 6 7 5
1 3 4 5 6 8 5
1 3 4 5 6 9 4
1 3 4 5 6 10 4
1 3 4 5 7 8 5
1 3 4 5 7 9 4
1 3 4 5 7 10 4
1 3 4 5 8 9 4
1 3 4 5 8 10 4
1 3 4 5 9 10 3
1 3 4 6 7 8 6
1 3 4 6 7 9 5
1 3 4 6 7 10 5
1 3 4 6 8 9 5
1 3 4 6 8 10 5
1 3 4 6 9 10 4
1 3 4 7 8 9 5
1 3 4 7 8 10 5
1 3 4 7 9 10 4
1 3 4 8 9 10 4
1 3 5 6 7 8 5
1 3 5 6 7 9 4
1 3 5 6 7 10 4
1 3 5 6 8 9 4
1 3 5 6 8 10 4
1 3 5 6 9 10 3
1 3 5 7 8 9 4
1 3 5 7 8 10 4
1 3 5 7 9 10 3
1 3 5 8 9 10 3
1 3 6 7 8 9 5
1 3 6 7 8 10 5
1 3 6 7 9 10 4
1 3 6 8 9 10 4
1 3 7 8 9 10 4
1 4 5 6 7 8 5
1 4 5 6 7 9 4
1 4 5 6 7 10 4
1 4 5 6 8 9 4
1 4 5 6 8 10 4
1 4 5 6 9 10 3
1 4 5 7 8 9 4
1 4 5 7 8 10 4
1 4 5 7 9 10 3
1 4 5 8 9 10 3
1 4 6 7 8 9 5
1 4 6 7 8 10 5
1 4 6 7 9 10 4
1 4 6 8 9 10 4
1 4 7 8 9 10 4
1 5 6 7 8 9 4
1 5 6 7 8 10 4
1 5 6 7 9 10 3
1 5 6 8 9 10 3
1 5 7 8 9 10 3
1 6 7 8 9 10 4
2 3 4 5 6 7 4
2 3 4 5 6 8 4
2 3 4 5 6 9 3
2 3 4 5 6 10 3
2 3 4 5 7 8 4
2 3 4 5 7 9 3
2 3 4 5 7 10 3
2 3 4 5 8 9 3
2 3 4 5 8 10 3
2 3 4 5 9 10 2
2 3 4 6 7 8 5
2 3 4 6 7 9 4
2 3 4 6 7 10 4
2 3 4 6 8 9 4
2 3 4 6 8 10 4
2 3 4 6 9 10 3
2 3 4 7 8 9 4
2 3 4 7 8 10 4
2 3 4 7 9 10 3
2 3 4 8 9 10 3
2 3 5 6 7 8 4
2 3 5 6 7 9 3
2 3 5 6 7 10 3
2 3 5 6 8 9 3
2 3 5 6 8 10 3
2 3 5 6 9 10 2
2 3 5 7 8 9 3
2 3 5 7 8 10 3
2 3 5 7 9 10 2
2 3 5 8 9 10 2
2 3 6 7 8 9 4
2 3 6 7 8 10 4
2 3 6 7 9 10 3
2 3 6 8 9 10 3
2 3 7 8 9 10 3
2 4 5 6 7 8 4
2 4 5 6 7 9 3
2 4 5 6 7 10 3
2 4 5 6 8 9 3
2 4 5 6 8 10 3
2 4 5 6 9 10 2
2 4 5 7 8 9 3
2 4 5 7 8 10 3
2 4 5 7 9 10 2
2 4 5 8 9 10 2
2 4 6 7 8 9 4
2 4 6 7 8 10 4
2 4 6 7 9 10 3
2 4 6 8 9 10 3
2 4 7 8 9 10 3
2 5 6 7 8 9 3
2 5 6 7 8 10 3
2 5 6 7 9 10 2
2 5 6 8 9 10 2
2 5 7 8 9 10 2
2 6 7 8 9 10 3
3 4 5 6 7 8 5
3 4 5 6 7 9 4
3 4 5 6 7 10 4
3 4 5 6 8 9 4
3 4 5 6 8 10 4
3 4 5 6 9 10 3
3 4 5 7 8 9 4
3 4 5 7 8 10 4
3 4 5 7 9 10 3
3 4 5 8 9 10 3
3 4 6 7 8 9 5
3 4 6 7 8 10 5
3 4 6 7 9 10 4
3 4 6 8 9 10 4
3 4 7 8 9 10 4
3 5 6 7 8 9 4
3 5 6 7 8 10 4
3 5 6 7 9 10 3
3 5 6 8 9 10 3
3 5 7 8 9 10 3
3 6 7 8 9 10 4
4 5 6 7 8 9 4
4 5 6 7 8 10 4
4 5 6 7 9 10 3
4 5 6 8 9 10 3
4 5 7 8 9 10 3
4 6 7 8 9 10 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 3
 

zerro

Member
"http://saliu.com/bbs/messages/11.html"
From Salius site
Forget about designed loto wheels! Better still, forget about lottery wheels altogether! The wheels only make money for those who sell lottery software. The lotto wheels and wheeling are the essence of all lottery software, except for LotWon. Some pushed the envelope so hard, that everything in lotto is now a...wheel! It is the only justification left for most lotto software packages. They say now full wheels. That's an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms. The lotto wheels are, in fact, reduced lotto systems. On the other hand, full is a reference to all the combinations of a lotto set. Wheeling lotto numbers is a way of reducing the number of combinations to play, instead of playing all lotto numbers in a set. They can't have it both ways: full and reduced!
 

CMF

Member
Ion Saliu is a totally discredited person.

If you particularly want to use less than the full pool for your Lotto game for whatever reason or lack of it then you can't do better than the C(12,6,3,3,2)=22 Cover.

Each paying CombThree is repeated twice so if you do get three integers correct you get the payout for two threes as a minimum. The CombFours, CombFives and CombSixes are unique.

I have tested this Cover and while you won't get a win as often as using the full pool with no threes repeated and coverage at next best play you are not disadvantaged in the medium term.

My suggestion would be to randomize from the full pool using the following template ie you are not restricted to the first 12 integers in numerical order.

02 03 04 05 06 12
02 03 07 08 09 12
02 04 07 10 11 12
03 05 08 10 11 12
04 06 08 09 10 12
05 06 07 09 11 12
02 03 06 09 10 11
02 04 05 08 09 11
02 05 06 07 08 10
03 04 05 07 09 10
03 04 06 07 08 11
01 02 03 04 08 10
01 02 03 05 07 11
01 02 04 06 07 09
01 03 05 06 08 09
01 04 05 06 10 11
01 07 08 09 10 11
01 03 04 09 11 12
01 02 05 09 10 12
01 03 06 07 10 12
01 02 06 08 11 12
01 04 05 07 08 12

Colin Fairbrother
 

blitzed

Member
GameBelgium said:
Thank you Colin, that's actually a really good wheel. Any other wheels you would recommend?
hiya Game Belgium, you checkout wheels here:
http://www.ccrwest.org/cover/HIGH.html

this wheel for example is smaller than Colin's, but only covers one match 3:
http://www.ccrwest.org/cover/t_pages/t3/k6/C_12_6_3.html

some people have reported decent luck after plugging their number pool into lotto matrix wheel, and just taking a reasonable amount of quick picks from it:
http://crazynuts.hollosite.com/lotto_matrix_wheel/

cheers!
blitzed:thumb:
 

CMF

Member
GameBelgium

The C(12,6,3,3,2)=22 is the only multiple win Cover to which I give the nod. A guarantee of 3 or 4 wins for a pool around 12 would be interesting to test.

Wheels using less than the full pool such as a C(12,6,3,6,1)=2 are meant for fools.

Colin Fairbrother
 

blitzed

Member
CMF said:
GameBelgium

The C(12,6,3,3,2)=22 is the only multiple win Cover to which I give the nod. A guarantee of 3 or 4 wins for a pool around 12 would be interesting to test.

Wheels using less than the full pool such as a C(12,6,3,6,1)=2 are meant for fools.

Colin Fairbrother

Hi CMF, wheels are too tight...if I am whimsical enough to play a big lottery game such as lotto649, I would likely start with set like this to poke around:
http://crazynuts.hollosite.com/649_picks_plus/#spectrum_set

I mostly play pick3 lottery, in which a box-wheel can be practical.
http://crazynuts.hollosite.com/daily3_pick3_lottery/#pick3_box_wheel

cheers!
blitzed:smash:
 

CMF

Member
Colin Fairbrother sticks to science, probability, data analysis and adequate testing using my own programs. I have no problem with numerologists as long as they are open about their occultist beliefs. I DO have a problem with numerologists that try to pass off their beliefs as rational and wish to engage in dialog with rational people on the basis of accepting a whole raft of their wishy washy, numerology baloney.

For Pick 3 a lot of people have found useful my chart published September 2005 for 9 sets consisting of 10 Doubles 3-way with equal likelihood and 10 sets consisting of 10 Unmatched 6-way with equal likelihood plus the 10 Triples. See -
PICK 3 BASE NUMBERS 6-WAY, 3-WAY & 1-WAY
http://lottoposter.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=304&FID=46&PR=3

For Jackpot games the best set to play is that which uses the full Pool, does not duplicate paying subsets and with coverage at next best play. Increasing the coverage by distortion does not increase the yield. See -
COVERAGE ALONE DOES NOT GIVE THE BEST LOTTO YIELD
http://lottoposter.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=623&FID=46&PR=3
The only exception so far to that is the C(12,6,3,3,2)=22.

Johnny come latelies should be careful about being condescending, for what is relatively new to them is old hat to others. Ignorance of what others have contributed over the years is not an excuse for peddling rubbish or not taking the time to check out their previous posts.

Colin Fairbrother
 

Kingsize

Member
CMF said:
Ion Saliu is a totally discredited person.

If you particularly want to use less than the full pool for your Lotto game for whatever reason or lack of it then you can't do better than the C(12,6,3,3,2)=22 Cover.

Each paying CombThree is repeated twice so if you do get three integers correct you get the payout for two threes as a minimum. The CombFours, CombFives and CombSixes are unique.

I have tested this Cover and while you won't get a win as often as using the full pool with no threes repeated and coverage at next best play you are not disadvantaged in the medium term.

My suggestion would be to randomize from the full pool using the following template ie you are not restricted to the first 12 integers in numerical order.

02 03 04 05 06 12
02 03 07 08 09 12
02 04 07 10 11 12
03 05 08 10 11 12
04 06 08 09 10 12
05 06 07 09 11 12
02 03 06 09 10 11
02 04 05 08 09 11
02 05 06 07 08 10
03 04 05 07 09 10
03 04 06 07 08 11
01 02 03 04 08 10
01 02 03 05 07 11
01 02 04 06 07 09
01 03 05 06 08 09
01 04 05 06 10 11
01 07 08 09 10 11
01 03 04 09 11 12
01 02 05 09 10 12
01 03 06 07 10 12
01 02 06 08 11 12
01 04 05 07 08 12

Colin Fairbrother
Hi Colin
We play 5/90 Keno type game. I just read a lot of your posts and also follow your links. I posted here (http://www.lotto649.ws/keno/12613-5-90-number-keno-type.html#post121428 ) explaining about how we have played. We will really appreciate i you can advice us regarding the C(12,6,3,3,2)=22 Cover and how and if we can apply it to the 5/90. We are all "Johnny come latelies":look: and thus will appreciate any helpful info or:idea:"s from you.
Thanks Kingsize
 

blitzed

Member
CMF, cool pick3 sets...the thing I like about the game, is that pseudo-roulette type bets can be placed with such sets.

I do not play pick3 much lately, greedy state pari-mutuel payouts can sometimes be a turn off...when the prize works out to be less than 50% of the odds beat...makes it difficult to keep ahead of the game.

later,
blitzed:spiny:
 

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