Do all lottery software that produce lines to play use random number generators?

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mirage

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ChiefWiggum said:
Mirage

My version (2003 version, 2.134) appears to be available for download from other sites.

e.g. futuresoft.co.uk/lottery
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ChiefWiggum,

The above url just links you to Lotwin's site. If you try to download the free 2003 it links you to the 2004 version to try.

There is also a free Lite version. However, it detected an existing Lotwin on my system and advised that it would update the Lite to the 2004 version.
 
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ChiefWiggum

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Mirage

If you go to lotwin.net you hit the page where you can download the 2004 version.

If you scroll to the bottom of the page, it looks like you can download the 2003 version.

I wouldn't worry about your Lite version. It's not worth the disk space.
 
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ChiefWiggum

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Mirage

Apologies.

I clicked the link and it forced the 2004 version.

You could google to find a 2003 version.

There has to be a 2003 version somewhere.
 
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mirage

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ChiefWiggum said:
Mirage

Apologies.

I clicked the link and it forced the 2004 version.

You could google to find a 2003 version.

There has to be a 2003 version somewhere.
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ChiefWiggum,

No apologies required.

I did search as you suggested.

My, there certainly are a mind-boggling number of different lottery programs out there! It would take a huge amount of time just to review all available. I'm now going to have to do a really thorough cleaning of my PC to purge it of spyware.

Unfortunately all Lotwin references lead back to Lotwin's home site. Lotwin has a tight legal grip on its own ware.

The only 2003 version I would be able to get my hands on at this point would have to be a pirated version, I think.
 
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ChiefWiggum

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Mirage

Perhaps it might be a good idea to send an email via Cafe Lotwin, explain the issue, and ask them to re-instate the 2003 download link.

I rely on the Number Filters. They must have customers in the same position.

Could you confirm whether you found the Random Line function in your version. If so, did it work ?
 
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ChiefWiggum

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Mirage

In your previous post, you mentioned:

"last draw, previous, last 3 to 5, 6 - 10, and > 10"

My analysis is for a 6/44 +2B lottery and my breakdown is:

Last (Red)
Previous (Red)
Last 3 to 4 (Yellow)
Last 5 to 9 (Green)
Over 10 (Blue)

Given your previous statement, we may not be comparing the same draw size.

My lottery has recently changed to 6/45 +2B

For a 6/45 draw, the breakdown changes to:

Last (Red)
Previous (Red)
Last 3 to 5 (Yellow)
Last 6 to 10 (Green)
Over 11 (Blue)

Given the breakdown you mentioned, It looks like your draw size is 6/45 or greater.

Perhaps the issue relates to YOUR draw size.
 
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mirage

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ChiefWiggum,

In answer to your question, I play 2 lotteries, sometimes alternating them. One is a provincial 6/49 + 1B(enormous odds but ticket purchase price is inexpensive). The other is a 6/45 + 1B. Both have the same breakdown as what you mentioned for your 6/45, i.e.: Last, Previous, 3-5, 6-10, >11.

I will try sending an email to Cafe Lotwin.
 
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mirage

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(Originally posted by ChiefWiggum)

Perhaps it might be a good idea to send an email via Cafe Lotwin, explain the issue, and ask them to re-instate the 2003 download link.

I rely on the Number Filters. They must have customers in the same position.

ChiefWiggum,

I did finally email them and got a curt response.

They said there was not a problem with the above mentioned filter and they haven't had any problems reported in their latest version in a long time. They said that the problem must be in the way I am using the filter.

Just to let you know. As for the other question I haven't checked that yet.
 
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Karnac

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mirage said:
Sorry, did I break a rule or something? I did ask LT if OK to discuss this lottery program first. :(
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No Mirage, absolutely no problem....there was someone flooding the forum with ads and emails but LT took care of things and it looks like he deleted the posts ....carry on, and good luck upon you.:agree2:

:devil:
 
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ChiefWiggum

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Mirage

I emailed LT some time ago to ask him if I could forward a zipped copy of the 2003 version to you (245KB) via him, but I have not received a reply yet.
 
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mirage

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ChiefWiggum said:
Mirage

I emailed LT some time ago to ask him if I could forward a zipped copy of the 2003 version to you (245KB) via him, but I have not received a reply yet.
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ChiefWiggum,

Thank you for your generous offer but I will keep working with what I've got for now. There is no need to push it with LT as it is a personal call on his behalf regarding how much attention to pay to individual members of the board and where do you draw the line.

There are enough features in the latest version of this program for it to continue to be worthwhile. Logically, to take a huge number of combinations and get it down to a number of lines I can afford to play in an effort to try to capture the jackpot is like trying to find the proverbial needle in the haystack anyway. It would make more of a difference if I was able to afford to play between 500 and 1000 lines but that's out of the queston.

As for the Numbers Filters, it seems to be working now. I can't go back and recreate the situation as it stood when I thought they were not working as the program retains the last data loaded even if I edit the database and reload it. For all I know, :confused:
at this point, maybe the Lotwin team are right in their assessment that the problem is at my end, although I can't imagine being wrong twice with such an simple and obvious feature! :dizzy:

I will work with the Numbers Filter more and see how it goes.

As for the question that you must have asked initially in another thread, which you explained further in this thread, thusly:

(Originally posted by ChiefWiggum)

The Random Line Generator is found under:

Analysis->
Line Analyser->
Random Line

My version is is 2.134. I downloaded it in 2003.

In the 2004 version, this didn't work.

The 2004 version seems to be having a lot of trouble.

I looked at this feature and I see that it does not accurately reflect the filter statistics for at least one of the filters anyway. I'm not sure how useful this feature would be. Why would you want to use it?

I've noticed that in the group filters some of the recent draws are not shown or are "invisible" and I've wondered why. Do you know why? In the case of one of the recent draws that are invisible in a certain group filter, perhaps the line analyser could be used to check the status then? Except that it doesn't work sometimes.

Regards!
 
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mirage

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ChiefWiggum,

You are right - the Random Line Generator does not work at all.
The group filters in Line Analyser (sort of) work.

(Originally posted by ChiefWiggum)

The Random Line Generator is found under:

Analysis->
Line Analyser->
Random Line

My version is is 2.134. I downloaded it in 2003.

In the 2004 version, this didn't work.

The 2004 version seems to be having a lot of trouble.
 
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ChiefWiggum

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Mirage

The Group Filters have met my expectations, with the exception of "With Last Draw".

I have only focussed on:

Low/High
Odd/Even
Consecutives
With Last Draw

I cannot vouch for the integrity of the other Group Filters.

If there is a particular Group Filter that is producing inconsistent behavior, I can check its behaviour and confirm/deny for you.
 
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mirage

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ChiefWiggum said:
Mirage

The Group Filters have met my expectations, with the exception of "With Last Draw".

I have only focussed on:

Low/High
Odd/Even
Consecutives
With Last Draw

I cannot vouch for the integrity of the other Group Filters.

If there is a particular Group Filter that is producing inconsistent behavior, I can check its behaviour and confirm/deny for you.
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ChiefWiggum,

"With last draw" means a number that hit previously in most recent draw, in other words a repeat? If so, it seems to work for me.

I do find that the odd time the filters don't work. It is puzzling as the errors are fairly infrequent.

A glaring example of an error I've just noticed is that for the most recent draw of a local lottery, there were 3 consecutive numbers, but this was not picked up. The program indicated that for the last draw there were no consecutive numbers. Maybe the program doesn't work for 3 consecutives?

Other errors have been noticed now and again but it seems not sufficiently often to complain about.

I still find the Numbers Filter frustrating. One can select number to play from each group when last drawn, i.e.: last, previous, 3-5, 6-10, etc,
or one can select/eliminate individual numbers to play "at random", but one can't do both. The Numbers Filter is overly finical.
 
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