Combination ticket odds

[Clint]

The Canadian lottery corporations do not publize the odds very well for playing combination tickets. I heard that the odds are greatly improved if you play the 6/49 combination 5 ticket for $44. I think the odds are improved to a little over 1 in 320,000 or over 500%.

Have any of you had success or experience playing these? $44 per draw is a lot of money but maybe it is worth it.

 

[Beaker]

Sure,

44 in 13983816= 1:317814

More tickets = more chance to win

Play 100

100 in 13983816 = 1: 139838.16

 

[PAB]

Combinations on a Single Ticket

Just for Interest.
For ANY One Single Combination ( 649 + 1 Bonus Lotto ) there are the following Winning and Losing Combinations :-

Match 6 = 1
Match 5 & Bonus Number = 6
Match 5 = 6
Match 4 = 15
Match 3 = 20
Total Winning Combinations > 48

Match 2 = 15
Match 1 = 6
Match 0 = 1
Total Losing Combinations > 22

Good Luck
PAB

 

[powerball]

$44 per draw is a lot of money

Combo Plays or wheels should ideally be used by groups instead of one player. Otherwise, Clint is correct in that spending $44 per draw is a lot of money to waste for one person. BCLC even has an 11-wheel play that costs $462! Even with 462 combinations, the odds of winning the jackpot is 1 in 34,251.

 

[doje]

Re: Combinations on a Single Ticket

Just for Interest.
For ANY One Single Combination ( 649 + 1 Bonus Lotto ) there are the following Winning and Losing Combinations :-

Match 6 = 1
Match 5 & Bonus Number = 6
Match 5 = 6
Match 4 = 15
Match 3 = 20
Total Winning Combinations > 48

Match 2 = 15
Match 1 = 6
Match 0 = 1
Total Losing Combinations > 22

Good Luck
PAB

With all the respect,

Do your calculations better!

These are almost ALL wrong!

 

[Brad]

I dunno Doje, but I think all of Pab's numbers are correct. What may be a bit confusing is that those are just combinations, not odds.

Cheers

 

[Brad]

Re: Re: Combination ticket odds

>>> BCLC even has an 11-wheel play that costs $462! <<<

If you think that's a lot try BCLC's 13 number Combo for BC49 ... that'll set you back $858 ... and they do have a ready-made form for it, just fill in your 13 numbers ... as easy as pie

The 'Combo' in BC is really just another name for a Full Wheel (except for Combo 5).
Cheers

 

[powerball]

Would PAB, Brad or anybody provide a specific example of why there would only be 6 winning combinations for Match 5? What doje and I are thinking is that there should be 252 unique combinations of matching 5 numbers.

 

[Brad]

How many 5 number combinations can you make from 6 numbers?

Let's make it easy, use 1,2,3,4,5,6 ...

 

[powerball]

252, as I said. If the drawn numbers are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 & bonus 49, some of the 252 unique combinations of matching 5/6 (but not the bonus number) are:

1) 7, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
2) 8, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
:
42) 48, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
43) 1, 7, 3, 4, 5, 6
:
252) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 48

 

[Brad]

Re: Combinations on a Single Ticket

Just for Interest.
For ANY One Single Combination ( 649 + 1 Bonus Lotto ) there are <<<

We're talking apples and oranges here. PAB gives the total possible for only ONE combination.

As an example for a 5/6, assume that the winning combination is 1,2,3,4,5,6. So:

1,2,3,4,5
1,2,3,4,6
1,2,3,5,6
1,2,4,5,6
1,3,4,5,6
2,3,4,5,6

No other combination will match 5 the way I see it.

Re-read the title of PAB's post "Re: Combinations on a Single Ticket" if still in doubt.

 

[powerball]

Re: Re: Re: Combination ticket odds

Does BCLC at least try to restrict the $100+ Combo Plays to group players? Or is BCLC so greedy and irresponsible that they want every addicted "cretin" to waste $858?

In Ontario, the most you can buy is a 9-number Combo for $84, partly because of lazy terminal programming but also partly because they don't want to increase the 2-4% of players that end up with ruined lives.

If you think that's a lot try BCLC's 13 number Combo for BC49 ... that'll set you back $858

 

[Brad]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Combination ticket odds

Does BCLC at least try to restrict the $100+ Combo Plays to group players? Or is BCLC so greedy and irresponsible that they want every addicted "cretin" to waste $858?

In Ontario, the most you can buy is a 9-number Combo for $84, partly because of lazy terminal programming but also partly because they don't want to increase the 2-4% of players that end up with ruined lives.

Why should they restrict anything? Are we not adults capable of making up our own minds how much to play? What is to stop someone who really wants to play 13 number Full Wheel from making up his/her own slips if BCLC "restricts" individual "addicted cretins"?
I really don't get it Powerball. Are you here to dissuade us from gambling? Have you had a bad personal experience with that? It seems you're on some kind of anti-lotto crusade.
Now you can say what you want here but I really don't think you'll get many converts . But what do I know?

 

[powerball]

Most of the lottery corporations at least pretend that they have measures against excessive gambling since studies show that around 4% of "adults capable of making up our own minds how much to play" end up ruining their families. As the head of a lottery pool, I phoned the OLGC if I can buy a bigger wheel than 9 numbers, but they said that $84 is the limit. All I am saying is that OLGC, WCLC, ALC and Loto-Quebec limits how big of a wheel you can buy while BCLC has a much higher limit.

No, I am not on an anti-gaming crusade and I did not have "a bad personal experience." On the contrary, my family has achieved financial security through gaming. I have gambled in Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Monte Carlo, Caribbean, Asia, etc. I was able to retire more than 30 years early from the 9-5 rat race by being both smart and LUCKY. However, I keep seeing people being victimized by the same old gambling fallacies over and over. Just because I state that it is silly for one individual to waste $858 on wheeling does not mean that I am dissuading you from gambling altogether.

 

[Brad]

I don't doubt the stats you're quoting since I don't know myself. But one thing does come to mind, how does the ruinous 2-4% relate to individual lottos? Do you know? Is the percentage likely to be higher in BC just because BCLC makes it more convenient to wager higher sums? Or will it be roughly the same across the country simply because approx. 4% of the populace is more prone to developing a gambling problem?

Sure, it is a tragedy anytime an individual and/or a family suffers because of gambling addiction. I would not put the blame on lottery corps alone since there are many other ways to lose, and think that the 'problem 4%' would find other venues to satisfy their urge even if there was no lotto. But trying (pretending?) to 'restrict' people from playing larger wheels for example is probably useless, for if someone wants to play that way there's nothing to stop them from piece-mealing the wheel.

So, which is better: pretending to have a measure against problem gambling or just plain admitting 'this is a gamble and it's your money to lose'?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not partial to BCLC or any other lotto corp for that matter, but to call them more greedy and irresponsible than others does not make sense to me. They're all probably just as greedy except maybe BCLC is more 'open' about it.

my 2 cents.

 

[Sheba]

Dosen't matter if that is the highest combo you can buy at one time. I am sure that if one wants to spend more they will anyway. Some people go over there budget in buying lottery tickets and some people hope to make there problems go away and buy even more tickets which in the end causes more trouble...Those VLT's are really bad , They are always blocked with people there every second they are on... They are in every bar here in NL and always busy......

Sheba__ ~~~
Everybody's Got a Dream...JACKPOT!
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[PAB]

Clarification

Hi Doje and Powerball,

Below are the TOTAL COMBINATIONS and ODDS Available in ANY 649 Lotto with 1 Bonus Ball Drawn for ALL 13,983,816 Combinations :-

Match Combinations Odds ( 1 in )

Match 6 = 1 = 1 in 13,983,816.00
Match 5 & Bonus = 6 = 1 in 2,330,636.00
Match 5 = 252 = 1 in 55,491.33
Match 4 = 13,545 = 1 in 1,032.40
Match 3 = 246,820 = 1 in 56.66
Match 2 = 1,851,150 = 1 in 7.55
Match 1 = 5,775,588 = 1 in 2.42
Match 0 = 6,096,454 = 1 in 2.29

Below are the TOTAL COMBINATIONS within ANY ONE SINGLE COMBINATION ( 649 + 1 Bonus Lotto ) :-

Match Combinations

Match 6 = 1
Match 5 & Bonus = 6
Match 5 = 6
Match 4 = 15
Match 3 = 20
Match 2 = 15
Match 1 = 6
Match 0 = 1

I hope this makes it a bit clearer.
All the Best
PAB