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Thanks Simonsez!

May I know how many past drawings are required?...and does the software generate a set of numbers to wheel base on results from the charts?

Hey Flexalong, what type of lottery are you playing?

You need a probability chart, cross-reference to determine which numbers in your group are least likely to be drawn...over the long run at least.

Stats don't really mean much for a small number of draws. However, over the long run, stats have more weight probability-wise, and if a number meets certain criteria, then it can be dropped.

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[Flexalong]

Hey Flexalong, what type of lottery are you playing?

You need a probability chart, cross-reference to determine which numbers in your group are least likely to be drawn...over the long run at least.

Stats don't really mean much for a small number of draws. However, over the long run, stats have more weight probability-wise, and if a number meets certain criteria, then it can be dropped.

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Many thanks for the advice, Blitzed!

I am playing a 6/45 +b lottery.

May I know where can I learn more about this probability chart?

 

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Many thanks for the advice, Blitzed!
I am playing a 6/45 +b lottery.
May I know where can I learn more about this probability chart?

You are most welcome Flexalong.

6/45 +b? what is the range of the bonus number?

I can build a probability chart for you, maybe when I get home..I need to create some for other lotteries anyway, it is mostly just a matter of Copy & Paste and Search & Replace of formulas that I already have in place, so it isn't a big deal.

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Thanks Simonsez!

May I know how many past drawings are required?...and does the software generate a set of numbers to wheel base on results from the charts?

When I make your probability chart, you'll be able to use it to determine how many draws you want to track number distribution for.

For my initial 5/39 chart, I determined that I at least need number distribution stats for 180 draws.

For your lottery it'd be considerably higher.

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[Flexalong]

Thank you so much for the help, Blitzed!

The bonus number range from 1 - 45.

Thanks again!

 

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Many thanks for the advice, Blitzed!
I am playing a 6/45 +b lottery.
May I know where can I learn more about this probability chart?

DL the latest spreadsheet, there is a 645_Prob sheet now

Probability chart goes up to 270 draws...I stopped at 270 because that brings the probability of any specific numbered ball NEVER being drawn to below .25% yup 1/4%

From my experience probabilities of 1.5%, yup 1 & 1/2% and below aren't typically met, so for any numbers which meet that criteria, I'd feel pretty confident about knocking out of play.

135 draws is an interesting point...there is only a 4.81% probability that any specific numbered ball will NEVER have been drawn YET...so that might be an ideal time to bet that any numbered balls will soon get their first draw. Also at that point, 22.49% of ALL numbers should have been drawn TWO times, and 22.66% have been drawn THREE times.

I'd say then a good bet would be to go for numbered balls which have been drawn ZERO to THREE times. If I did my calculations right, then theoretically 65% of the numbers will be within that distribution range

You can make a distribution chart much like the F5_Distro & F5_Draw. Maybe I can help you with that, but it can get complicated...have to do careful Search & Replace on formulas in the Distro to get newly added draws calculated.

Anyway, now you know how I'm thinking in regards to playing probabilities. Instead of throwing out a random lottery pick, essentially you'll be making a bunch of little bets. The fact that at 135 draws you have 2 groups to chose numbers from, each representing where 20% of the numbers come from, means that you have a 1 in 5 chance of getting a number in each of those groups.

45 draws is an interesting point too. There is a 37.20% probability that any numbered ball will be drawn at least once by then

cheers!
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[Flexalong]

Thanks Blitzed!

Where can I download the 645_Prob sheet?

 

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Thanks Blitzed!
Where can I download the 645_Prob sheet?

You are most welcome Flexalong!

I added the sheet into the same CA_Lottery_Excel.zip spreadsheet near the top of my main lottery page:
http://crazynuts.hollosite.com/pick_lottery_numbers/

Bookmark it, I don't want someone to think I'm spamming the forum with the site...at least it links back to here though!

Good luck trying to exploit the most favorable probabilities

later,
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[wazzappenning]

Simonsez









; I/ve tried your method three time and find that Formula #4 is the best so far. The first time turned out five winning numbers. The 2nd time turned out 6 #s and the Bonus that gave me a profit of 11%. The 3rd time gave me 5#s and the Bonus with a profit of 37%. The 4th try is this Wed, 7/5/06. Will let you know the results. As to the wheeling I'm using Iliya's wheels that you can get from his book. I don't have it here as I'm at the cottage on Lake Huron enjoying the salmon fishing and breathing the almost clean air.

just curiou how you played the strings...all of them seperate?? or all combined in one string ?? did you wheel the numbers or just randomly pick a few combinations from them???

 

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Pluses & minuses are the key I need to winning big.

Take my case for example, I've played California SuperLotto Plus for the last FOUR draws. Every time I've had one excellent pick, but I've missed a huge jackpot due to a very minimal plus & minus offset

For example, I've hit a trio lined up perfect dead center, but the number on the left was ONE too high, the number on the right was ONE too low.

Other picks have had consistent offsets of just ONE to FIVE...so I've been comin so very close! If I can compensate for the small offsets, I'd be golden!

souds like what ive done in pick 3...so many times off by one number on one digit

 

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Hi Flexalong!
It took me a little while to find the past results for the Singapore Toto. Most of the time I found ones with way out of date drawings but I finally found your most 2 recent ones. They were 4 12 15 26 29 45/1 and
7 15 20 28 32 35/44, correct? If so then these will be your "core" strings for the next month:

1) 3 8 11 16 19 27 30 31 36 44

2) 1 5 6 13 14 21 25 28 29 33 34

3) 1 5 9 13 17 21 28 29 31 33 37

4) 2 6 8 14 16 22 27 30 34 36

I hope you read about the core strings, if not, I suggest you go back and review. What I would like you to do is keep watch over these for the next month and see which way the numbers are falling from these numbers. Are they more from the minus side, or more from the plus side of these numbers. For example: in the number 1 string, were most of your winners numbers like 2 12 20 28 (more on the plus side?) or 15 18 29 35 43 (more on the minus side?) And which one of these strings gave you the most winners overall after a month. That way we can help narrow it down to just ONE string but this will be your own personal test. And also keep track of how many times your winners comes from the actual string itself, WITHOUT having to - or +. Sometimes you will get 3 numbers just from the string by itself.
Let me know what happens, Flexalong! I'm sure you will customize them a little more for yourself like last time and that's great! Maybe you can help me improve them. GOOD LUCK!!

wouldn t backtesting be a little quicker???

 

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You're welcome,Flexalong! I am lousy at at spotting trends also. If you want a program to do that for you then GH is very good, my favorite of all softwares. Many charts on there to tell you what are hot numbers and cold but I'm not sure if Singapore's results are included in that software. You might have to punch in all of your past drawings by hand come to think of it. It will make the charts for you after you do that. I would write to the website and see what software they have avalilable for your country. I recently asked a question and they took almost 3 days to get back to me so don't be alarmed if they take awhile to answer.

i did a kinda fast trend thing with 649...(by the way i tested it for the last canada 649, got 6 plus the bonus number would of cost 88 combinations at 2 bucks ea...176 dollars for the wheel i chose. that whel would have won 251 dollars...4 numbers 2 times(80ish dollars ea) 3 number 5 times(10 dollars ea) 2 and the bonus 7 times(5 dollars ea) so again it comes to making less combinations.....a lot of back tests showed 3 numbers total(10 bucks for whatever your wheel cost)....anyway not to get off topic but i noticed in our pick 6 that the first digit(for a given period of time) was almost always in the same group...i think i figuered ou that in my case the first digit was from 1 to 9 the second from 10 to 15 the third from...and on and on...worked for a while except the second number seemed to be below 9 lots of times....just thought this might help...also there are positional wheels at lottologix, dont know how good they work?

 

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heck with spreadsheets!

This version demonstrates simonsez formulas & core for the California Fantasy 5 - 5/39 lottery:
http://crazynuts.hollosite.com/california_fantasy5_lottery/

I'll rig the formulas for other lotteries, also try to dump results into a wheel.

jeeez! it is after 3am now heh! *yawn* catch y'all later

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could you do it for western 649...results at (type wclc in google bar)

 

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souds like what ive done in pick 3...so many times off by one number on one digit

yup, that kills. not so bad in pick3 though, you can play a few more picks to try to compensate for small offsets...or if you have a strong par, heck with it, just wheel 0-9 down a column and go for the box.

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could you do it for western 649...results at (type wclc in google bar)

cool that you can play WCLC online, wish they did that for California games!

anyway, I'll try to add the simonsez formulas to the 649 page soon.

later,
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[Flexalong]

You are most welcome Flexalong!

I added the sheet into the same CA_Lottery_Excel.zip spreadsheet near the top of my main lottery page:
http://crazynuts.hollosite.com/pick_lottery_numbers/

Bookmark it, I don't want someone to think I'm spamming the forum with the site...at least it links back to here though!

Good luck trying to exploit the most favorable probabilities

later,
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Thanks again Blitzed!

A few questions:

1. What do I key in place of "#NAME?" for rolls none, one, two, three and so on?...and does the rolls represent repeating numbers?

2. What does column "All Position" mean and what do I key in place of "#NAME?"?

3. And ultimately what should I be looking at in the prob sheet to cross reference with Simonsez's string?

Sorry for my lack of understanding.

 

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Thanks again Blitzed!
1. What do I key in place of "#NAME?" for rolls none, one, two, three and so on?...and does the rolls represent repeating numbers?
2. What does column "All Position" mean and what do I key in place of "#NAME?"?
3. And ultimately what should I be looking at in the prob sheet to cross reference with Simonsez's string?
Sorry for my lack of understanding.

It is ok Flexalong, it is complicated, and I'm not really good at explaining it sorry heh!

649_B_Prob is just a chart, you don't edit anything. If you see #NAME? perhaps there is an error, or you entered something by accident. I use OpenOffice, maybe when I save as Excel file, it doesn't translate right into Excel, I don't know.

Anyway, the chart calculates the probability that ANY numbered ball 1 to 46 will be drawn X times in ONE of six numbered ball positions out of up to 270 draws. That is useful if you track numbered ball distribution AND the position in which the numbered ball was drawn in.

SIX possible ball positions for a numbered ball to be drawn in, MULTIPLIED by 270 draws, so 6 x 270 = 1620. So numbered balls filled in the 6 positions 1620 times to produce 270 draw numbers.

Ok, I'm just makin up this numbered ball distribution example, for say the number 13:

The ball positions in which the ball #13 was drawn:
First Ball: Appeared 6 times
Second Ball: 8 times
Third Ball: 1 times
Fourth Ball: 8 itmes
Fifth Ball: 6 times
Sixth Ball: 6 times
So All Positions for ball #13 is 6+8+1+8+6+6 = 35. 35 draws out of 1620 times that the #13 ball could have been drawn. 35 is the most probable amount of times that a ball will be drawn out of 1620 individual 1 out of 46 chances to fill a ball position. However, in this made up example, you see the #13 ball was only drawn once in the 3rd ball position. So, I'd still make a pick with the #13 as the 3rd ball drawn,

My calculations aren't perfect. Only now I had the thought that more accurate probabilities should be done like this since numbered balls can't repeat in a draw:

Ball#1 (1 in 46)
Ball#2 (1 in 45)
Ball#3 (1 in 44)
Ball#4 (1 in 43)
Ball#5 (1 in 42)
Ball#6 (1 in 41)

maybe I'll update it again heh!

Anyway, it is easier to demonstrate the probability chart & number distribution with a sample from my F5 sheets. Say you used the simonsez formulas and you want to see whether you should keep the #17 or the #39:

Here is the #17 ball distribution, #17 was drawn as the:
1st ball: 6 times
2nd:5
3rd:1
4th:3
5th:5
Total Draws of #17 across all 5 ball positions: 20 times

Here is the #39 ball distribution:
1st ball: 1 time
2nd:1
3rd:4
4th:6
5th:3
Total Draws of #39 across all 5 ball positions: 15 times

Ok, of all the numbered balls, #39 was drawn only 15 times, that is the lowest of all. So yeah I'd definately take #39 instead of #17.

However, if you decide you want to make picks based upon cold positions, i nyour picks I'd then go for #17 in the 3rd ball position, and #39 in the 1st or 2nd positions...since it is very likely that those drawn ONCE will soon become drawn TWICE, and it is far less likely that
say a drawn SIX times will soon become a drawn SEVEN times hah!

good luck carefully reading and trying to interpret all that hah!
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[guapo gringo]

Simonsez Strategy

Can anyone explain the dtermination of the final set of numbers complied to be used in a wheel system from formulas 1 through 4? What about the mega number? Has anyone had sucess using these formulas recently and please indicate what wheel system was used (if any).

Thanks

 

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Can anyone explain the dtermination of the final set of numbers complied to be used in a wheel system from formulas 1 through 4? What about the mega number? Has anyone had sucess using these formulas recently and please indicate what wheel system was used (if any).

Thanks

Hello, the simonsez formulas are just tools to help give you number play fields to try...it is up to you to further boil down the numbers, perhaps filter out more usin probability, or selecting favorites.

I don't know what wheels people dump them into, but there are plenty of wheel templates around the net.

Some people just play random mega numbers, or ones based upon probability, or simply play a different mega on each of their picks. Others play 27 different picks in the case of SuperLotto Plus, and just run 1 through 27 down the mega column...so they at least have have the mega, and hope the best 5 number pick matches up with it.

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[guapo gringo]

Simonsez formulas applied to CA Lotto plus results

Let me run through the formulas using the most recent draws from the California Super Lotto Plus to see if I am doing this process correctly.

Last 2 draws (excluding Nov 4 numbers):

9, 10, 19, 25, 43 and 12 (Mega) - 11/1/06

7, 14, 25, 35, 40 and 15 (Mega) - 10/28/06

Formula applications:

Formula 1 - (S +1 +2)
Formula 2 - (-2 -1 S)
Formula 3 - (-1 S +1)
Formula 4 - (+1 +2 +3)

String #1: 9,10,11,12,19,20,21,25,26,27,43,44,45
7,8,9,14,15,16,25,26,27,35,36,37,40,41,42

String #2: 7,8,9,10,17,18,19,23,24,25,41,42,43
5,6,7,12,13,14,23,24,25,33,34,35,38,39,40

String #3: 8,9,10,11,18,19,20,24,25,26,42,43,44
6,7,8,13,14,15,24,25,26,34,35,36,39,40,41

String #4: 9,10,11,12,13,14,19,20,21,22,25,26,27,28,43,44,45,46
7,8,9,10,14,15,16,17,25,26,27,28,35,36,37,38,40,41,42,43

Eliminate the repeats and original lottery numbers produces these 4 strings:

#1: 6,8,11,12,13,15,20,21,36,37,41,42,44,45 (14 numbers to wheel)
#2: 5,6,8,12,13,17,18,33,34,38,39,41,42 (13 numbers to wheel)
#3: 6,11,13,15,18,20,34,36,41,42,44 (11 numbers to wheel)
#4: 8,11,12,13,15,16,17,20,21,22,36,37,38,41,42,44,45,46 (18 numbers to wheel)

Is this correct/

Thank you