Cheated out of a fortune?
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Brad said:Did a provincial lottery corporation cheat an 81-year-old winner out of his riches? Watch the video. CBC - the Fifth Estate has the full story tonite at 6PM (EST).
Moral of the story ... don't trust anyonecheck your own numbers and sign your tickets.
As if they don't already have enuf ways to cheat us... they are even threatening to take the poor fellow to court for speaking out.
How sleazy can they get?
Brad
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OLGC doesn't come off too well on this one ... basically they covered up for a thieving clerk by spending more than $400K on their defense lawyers. Then after dragging the 81yr old through 4yrs of courts they 'bought' his silence (gag order) with about half the money of the $250K prize he deserved. Hush money to avoid bad press back then ...mirage said:As if they don't already have enuf ways to cheat us... they are even threatening to take the poor fellow to court for speaking out.
There will be a lot more dirt unearthed on their shady dealings ... lot of unanswered Qs coming up on the show tonite.
Btw, the programs airs at 9PM EST tonite ... I got it wrong in my original post (forgot which time-zone I'm in
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blitzed
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Brad said:OLGC doesn't come off too well on this one ... basically they covered up for a thieving clerk by spending more than $400K on their defense lawyers. Then after dragging the 81yr old through 4yrs of courts they 'bought' his silence (gag order) with about half the money of the $250K prize he deserved. Hush money to avoid bad press back then ...
There will be a lot more dirt unearthed on their shady dealings ... lot of unanswered Qs coming up on the show tonite.
Btw, the programs airs at 9PM EST tonite ... I got it wrong in my original post (forgot which time-zone I'm in
dirty bastards
Brad
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For anyone who missed the program and would like to watch it on-line here's the whole Luck of the Draw.
Be sure to watch the CBC or CBC Newsworld. First, both the lottery retailer and OLG tried to cheat the cancer survivor for years until he had to force them to pay him. Even though the OLG knew back in 2002 that Bob Edmonds was the rightful winner, it wasted $420,00 of OUR money in legal bills hoping that the 82-year old would die, instead of paying him the $250,000 he deserved. The OLG finally issued an apology, and was forced to release Bob Edmonds from the confidentiality agreement they imposed on him. Read http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061027.wlottery1027/BNStory/National/home
I have been saying for years that it is stupid for the lottery corporations to let their own employees, retailers and other insiders win their own lotteries. Until the lottery corporations improves its policies and procedures, many potential players will continue to think that lotteries are rigged. Be sure to check your lottery tickets on the Internet or other source before you bring your ticket to the retailer, who claims a highly disproportionate amount of winnings.
instead of paying him the $250,000 he deserved. The OLG finally issued an apology, and was forced to release Bob Edmonds from the confidentiality agreement they imposed on him. Read http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061027.wlottery1027/BNStory/National/homeI have been saying for years that it is stupid for the lottery corporations to let their own employees, retailers and other insiders win their own lotteries. Until the lottery corporations improves its policies and procedures, many potential players will continue to think that lotteries are rigged. Be sure to check your lottery tickets on the Internet or other source before you bring your ticket to the retailer, who claims a highly disproportionate amount of winnings.
ComboManiac
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Nice Link Brad
It's good I checked this site today to see these interesting stories.
Best thing to do is to sign at the back of your ticket.
Brad, btw lottobuddy had a minor heart attack so he escaped.
Cheers
It's good I checked this site today to see these interesting stories.
Best thing to do is to sign at the back of your ticket.
Brad, btw lottobuddy had a minor heart attack so he escaped.
Cheers
blavkwidow
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sorry lotta buddie had a heart attack
Hope he keeps well soon, and has a speedy recovery
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Hope he keeps well soon, and has a speedy recovery
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Brad
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Update: Clerks Cheating Customers
Here's a follow-up to the original CBC the Fifth Estate story, starting off with an official apology to Bob Edmonds from OLG. It then goes further, to look at other instances of crooked clerks, scratch-and-win ticket pin-pricking, OLG's stonewalling, etc.
It's well worth watching if you missed it: LINK ... click on the Video Update, mid RH side of web page.
Here's a follow-up to the original CBC the Fifth Estate story, starting off with an official apology to Bob Edmonds from OLG. It then goes further, to look at other instances of crooked clerks, scratch-and-win ticket pin-pricking, OLG's stonewalling, etc.
It's well worth watching if you missed it: LINK ... click on the Video Update, mid RH side of web page.
thanks
Brad
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Swifter justice south of the border
A similar fraud took place earlier this year in Camarillo, CA where a clerk tried to defraud a customer out of a $524K Mega Millions lottery ticket. The offending clerk is now serving 5yrs+ in prison, where he belongs (story here ... LINK)
Makes one wonder about the Canadian 'justice' system where, 5 yrs after committing the crime, the offender is still free, and gets to keep part of the loot she stole
Sign your tickets, folks, and check your own numbers ... it's not that hard ... it takes away any temptation for the clerks to defraud.
A similar fraud took place earlier this year in Camarillo, CA where a clerk tried to defraud a customer out of a $524K Mega Millions lottery ticket. The offending clerk is now serving 5yrs+ in prison, where he belongs (story here ... LINK)
Makes one wonder about the Canadian 'justice' system where, 5 yrs after committing the crime, the offender is still free, and gets to keep part of the loot she stole
Sign your tickets, folks, and check your own numbers ... it's not that hard ... it takes away any temptation for the clerks to defraud.
Don't forget different people respond to customer's observable frailties all the time. I was at a restaurant today, some perfect looking woman, tall, some might describe as "hot chick" noticed my speach "difference" and said to the clerk that girl looks like she has a problem. That is the way people are. Privacy, fairness, respect, courtesey, moral integrety, it doesn't matter if they are spelled wrong anymore. Dreams don't need to be spelled right.
Anyway you really think it is sane to assume within 100% probability, such an organization would have a perfectly fair machine. Don't forget if the "frequent number in the short run theory" is remotely true, people are discarding frequent numbers assuming the odds are against them like I did.
Good for him for fighting back.
Anyway you really think it is sane to assume within 100% probability, such an organization would have a perfectly fair machine. Don't forget if the "frequent number in the short run theory" is remotely true, people are discarding frequent numbers assuming the odds are against them like I did.
Good for him for fighting back.
I think this story shows,that it is not about whether you win or lose, whether it is winning a lotto ticket or court battle against bigger powers than yourself, it is about believing you have a chance to win despite the bigger chance of losing, so you take a chance. If you dont take a chance, you can't win at all. If you think the probability distribution for any given situation, which is not fixed, are 0 for you to win, 100 for you to lose, why get out of bed in the morning? Beleiving in your 1% chance is what keeps people going. People do this intuitively. Being able to even the odds against you, is not a bad thing to try to do.
blitzed
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Hi exploora, any feeling about pick3 games?
Chances are substantially better, especially if placing bets on various likely probability scenarios.
What is lame is that some state lotteries are big time misers. Pardon Pari-mutuel payouts can really stink...a very unexpected straight draw win can pay upwards of $720 os so, while other times it can be as low as low $220 tsk!
seeya,
blitzed
Chances are substantially better, especially if placing bets on various likely probability scenarios.
What is lame is that some state lotteries are big time misers. Pardon Pari-mutuel payouts can really stink...a very unexpected straight draw win can pay upwards of $720 os so, while other times it can be as low as low $220 tsk!
seeya,
blitzed
Brad
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More OLG goofs
I didn't want to start a new tread on this but it looks like good ol' OLG is screwing up again
When an Orangeville man asked for his scratch-ticket to be cashed he was told by the vendor "someone already got the pay-out in Palmerston" !!
Granted, it was only 9 bucks but as the man said : " what if it was $10,000 or $50,000? How do I know if I will get the money?"
Read the rest here, Lotto office goofs on $9 prize
I didn't want to start a new tread on this but it looks like good ol' OLG is screwing up again
When an Orangeville man asked for his scratch-ticket to be cashed he was told by the vendor "someone already got the pay-out in Palmerston" !!
Granted, it was only 9 bucks but as the man said : " what if it was $10,000 or $50,000? How do I know if I will get the money?"
Read the rest here, Lotto office goofs on $9 prize