chances of winning lotto 649

xcentric

Member
roger.www said:
Sorry sir but you are an idiot and a fool.
The Lottery corp loves dumb gamblers like you.
What would be the point of arguing with a fool.
You deserve to win free tickets for the rest of your life.

Yes ..I won $14,000 last year from Keno and $3000 from ..649. And you ?
That's probabably more than half your annual salary ..eh ?


Who said I was planning to win the jackpot..this is entertainement ..what counts is getting most of your money back and matter of fact I have made a nice profit last year.
I am willing to bet you never won more than $10 in your life.
Do everyone a favour and find yourself a forum for teens! Your posts are a waste of space.

:thumb: :rolling:
 

xcentric

Member
well heres one clue, its highly luckily 1, or sometimes 2 numbers in the next jackpot, are from the previous 6number wins, that definately helps substantially
 

tomtom

Member
There can exist lotteries that create many many BIG winners. One great example is Australian Saturday lotto. If I’m right this very affordable game and also game with very good odds made this day at least 26 people very very happy while transferring nearly 800.000 to each of them. Yes that's right…..there were 26 BIG BIG winners. Plus, a lot of smaller prizes winners. However , check by yourself if I’m right or not here at their official site http://www.lotterywest.wa.gov.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=548
 

Amazone

Member
Let's see ... Of course you can increase your odds of winning, but sometimes the numbers we disregard are the numbers that are drawn.

concerning the chance of being hit by a lightning... I know how to avoid being hit by lightning, ...like not playing golf when there is lightning, not running, not going under a tree, not swimming ... etc cause our body is then used as a ground.

wich I was as good with the lotterie numbers, on how not to play certain numbers.
 
roger.www said:
Either you don't read this forum or if you do you don't understand what you are reading.
Yes. after you eliminate some numbers ( say 20) and the six remaining numbers are contained in your sample of good numbers the odds of winning are substantially improved ! That is MATHEMATICALLY TRUE. And all you do is find a good wheeling system and hope for the best.
Reason I don't post as much and share info here as much is ignorant comments like this from people who have no clue what they are talking about.

Let see them pick 6 from 29....

10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22
23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32-33-34-35-36-37-39

Now lets see 6 here!

Then I woulld have to play all combo's from these numbers..

Unreal I say Unreal...cannot be done...

LT get only good hits from 20 every now and then... so another 9 numbers!

:sleeping: :dance1: :beer: :hair: :lphant: :dang:
 

roger.www

Member
Rob50 said:
Now I see the case is more serious than I initially thought. There are a few things to be said:
1.- Didn’t your parents (biologic, adoptive or foster) teach you that it is not polite to call somebody names just because they are smarter than you? I assume that, anyways, you have some vague idea what does it mean “smarter than you” and when you sense that, you go straight red hot:burnt: and through the roof.
2.- From what you say and how you say it, you seem pretty frustrated. Now I might have a few hypotheses about why you are frustrated, but I won’t go there, because I feel you are somebody that does not deserve qualified help, although you need it.
3.- Congratulations for you winnings, sincerely and truly. In order to be correct with the books though you must disclose how much did you play, not that it is of much interest to me. The small amount of money you proudly report here as winnings makes me think that this can be one of the root causes of your frustration.
4.-Now cool down and listen. Your winnings are not enough to prove that with your theory you have improved your odds. To understand that there is no way to improve the odds when you play against some objective probability that is smart and intelligent. If you don’t understand that, you simply lie to yourself. This is a matter of how you perceive the reality.
5.- The Lotto Corps like a lot more your kind than mine. If there were not around people that think that can crack, or break the lottery with some ingenious theory, the number of people playing the lotteries would be limited to only QP players. The QP players play a lot less tickets than your kind.
6. My salary…? Better not talk about it. Do you know why? Simply ‘cause it is a private matter and I don’t want to add one more frustration to your life.

Very friendly
Rob
1- Arew you really this dense:

Check my posts
1- I never said I can crack the lottery

2- I never said my goal is to win the jackpot

3- How much did I spend to win Keno and 5/6 numbers 649 ?...You are contradicting yourself..I thought you said there is nothing one can to improve
the odds. Are you now saying that it is possible to improve
the odds by spending more ? Btw my initial budget was from a $2
pick3 which won $580. With that I won the Keno
and 649. Infact it was during the same month ( May last year).
 

roger.www

Member
Btw Rob ..here is an example of what I am talking about
If you look at the numbers below under (a)
and (b) only 1 number is missing for that draw. I have done this
with Ont 49 and came up with the same result
for Ont 49.... 5/6 within a group of 22.

That's what I mean.
This is not a forgery. This is from a spreadsheet that I actually used to prepare numbers for that draw.

Code:
Super 7 - Feb 11
ACTUAL RESULT: 13-19-25-29-38-43-45


a - b - c
12 10 9
13 11 10
15 13 12
16 14 13
21 19 18
31 29 28
34 32 31
36 34 33
38 36 35
42 40 39
44 42 41
45 43 42
47 45 44
 

roger.www

Member
Lotto$Master said:
Let see them pick 6 from 29....

10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22
23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32-33-34-35-36-37-39

Now lets see 6 here!

Then I would have to play all combo's from these numbers..

Unreal I say Unreal...cannot be done...

LT get only good hits from 20 every now and then... so another 9 numbers!

:sleeping: :dance1: :beer: :hair: :lphant: :dang:

It looks like you got 4/29, I think had you not discarded
the 40s group you would have captured five or six.
Btw if you like you can get my email address from admin,
I can tell you how I am generating my numbers.
At this point I am developing the method and I don't feel like
posting my method here, particularly given the hostility I am getting for posting
things that I know to be true.
 

roger.www

Member
Amazone said:
Let's see ... Of course you can increase your odds of winning, but sometimes the numbers we disregard are the numbers that are drawn.


wich I was as good with the lotterie numbers, on how not to play certain numbers.
That's key ---- knowing which numbers eliminate, and hey... even the databases
at Olgc.ca can help you make those decisions. Some people are better at that (eliminating numbers) than others.

And the mathematical probability of guessing 6/25 correctly
if ofcourse higher than that of guessing 6/49.

No guarantee of a jackpot but definitely a better shot at it.
 
Rob50 said:
Oh, and as for you whazzzzappening, now I see. Intelligently means not to play the numbers from the last draw, or 123456. Well be sure that as many QP you play , the chances of geting a ticket with the numbers from the last draw are exactly the same as hitting the jackpot, same as getting 123456. As for this site, i have been here around for much longer than you have and, don't worry, I fully understand what's going on here. Just for you to know, I make a living of statistics, good money, serious stuff and I hate when people are tricked 'cause they don't understand or misunderstand. I can start throwing around a lot of scientific mumbo-jumbo as I have seen here, about odds-evens, sums and filters and other crappy crap that might sound like good ideas and make people enthusiastic. Well, I am not that type of person.
Sorry for being rude and cheers. Rob



if you've been around here longer than me than why are you so negative about it? if it doesn't help you at all then why are you even here? to bash any system, idea or strategy???? to bash anybody who has an idea or thinks it might help them? i agree its still all random numbers but, with the information on this site you can give yourself better odds. so:finger:
 

DaveT

Member
Hello - I'm new to this forum, but I've been a lotto enthusiast and keen player for a good while.

Regarding the above debate over whether eliminating 20 (or so) numbers will improve your chances of getting a win ( eg.maybe 5 or even all 6 numbers).

Consider these points :

1) IT WILL IMPROVE YOUR CHANCES (MATHEMATICALLY) IF you continue with this approach WEEK IN , WEEK OUT until those draws occur WHEN ALL the numbers are within your 29. ON THOSE WEEKS ALONE(and they will occur , periodically) you will have a much better chance.

2) The key is NOT to have a conscious 'method' or 'system' with which to eliminate 20 or so numbers, BUT TO RANDOMLY ELIMINATE numbers prior to any draw, in several sets.

3) Specifically, consider this method:

(i) Take a pack of home-made cards numbered 1-49 (for lotto 6/49)

(ii) Shuffle, and randomly draw off 8 sets of 6 numbers (using 48 cards ie 6X8=48). Note down all 8 lines, the gather the cards, re-shuffle and repeat for several sets - or as per your budget)


In this way, for each set, you are PROGRESSIVELY eliminating numbers from the field, but in a random way.

So your first drawing (from 49) IS a striaght 6/49
BUT:
Your 2nd drawing (from 43) is a 6/43
Your 3rd drawing (from 37) is a 6/37
Your 4th drawing (from 31) is a 6/31
Your 5th drawing (from 25) is a 6/25
Your 6th drawing (from 19) is a 6/19
Your 7th drawing (from 13) is a 6/13
Your 8th drawing (from 7) is a 6/7

You might want to enter all 8 cominations , or pick the 'middle field '- say 6/31, 6/25, 6/19 and 6/13, where your chances might PERIODICALLY be better - on those weeks where you have previously eliminated the right numbers )

In this method, which you must perform week-in, week out, your will come up with 4 numbers much more often, and have a better chance at netting 5 or 6.

To increase your chances further, you could draw 7,8 or even 9 numbers per line (for wheels) - eg 6 lines of 8 numbers instead of 8 lines of 6.

I have used this method for a few months now (using 9 numbers per line (full Wheels) and 'cherry-picking' the best lines by using pattern recognition on a distribution chart of the past 10 draw results - In other words, I plot the past resultson a visual graph, generate my lines as per the above method, and try to see which lines 'fit' into the evolving pattern on the graph.

THERE ARE REPEATING PATTERNS if you plot each week's numbers on a matrix, which are periodically more 'visible and foreseeable' - I will discuss this on anther thread some time)

After 3 months with this system ,I have had 2 wins so far totalling $3000. Much more to come.
 

DaveT

Member
Now I've read more of the forum, I see that the member 'blitzed' has a website that allows you to create 'full spectrum' sets at random (though lines of 6 only), really the same as the above, but by computer and so much faster, ofcourse !)

Thank you, blitzed.

http://crazynuts.hollosite.com/649_lottery_picks/

With lines of 6, my preferred method is to ISOLATE 1 or 2 likely sequences (for the next draw) from one of 4 sets of full-spectrum picks, then ADD 3 numbers from the ADJACENT sequences (in the set) to make a 9-number FULL WHEEL which is then entered for the next draw (i use Gail Howard's FULL WHEEL GENERATOR for this)

How to do this? (ie how to isolate the most 'likely' sequences from 4 sets of full-spectrum picks) Well, I use a matrix (grid) of the past 10 results (UK 6/49 lotto), and 'try out' each full-spectrum pick on the next gird space, to see which (if any) 'fits' into the emerging (or ongoing) chaotic order of the plotted results.

It takes time to 'learn' the patterns as the form and dissipate, but to me they are SOMETIMES glaringly obvious (in PART). You get the same formations periodically appearing, in different parts of the grid.

It's randomness, yes, but we all work on the theory that there IS an underlying order within the randomness, a kind of deterministic underpinning, as CHAOS theory suggests.

It would be hard to describe( perhaps I should illustrate) these patterns, but instances typically include say (29, 32, 33) in last week , folllowed by (30,31) in THIS Week - ie the GAP produced last week (30,31) was FILLED this week.

There are many more which I look out for.

If such a pattern is emerging, I look for it's continuation in ONE of the full-spectrum picks. If I see it, THAT is (one of) the sequences I will focus on, adding 3 more numbers as per my results grid study.

Success? So far so good - $3000 in the last 3 months.
 
roger.www said:
It looks like you got 4/29, I think had you not discarded
the 40s group you would have captured five or six.
Btw if you like you can get my email address from admin,
I can tell you how I am generating my numbers.
At this point I am developing the method and I don't feel like
posting my method here, particularly given the hostility I am getting for posting
things that I know to be true.

i wouldnt mind knowing how you generate the numbers rog
 

blitzed

Member
hello DaveT,

you are most welcome. I'm glad that you enjoy the full spectrum sets while pursuing the 6/49!

good luck!
blitzed:thumb:
 

prkr301

Member
Be nice, kids. We would all like to win enough to be comfortable and maybe help someone else be comfortable, even if it's only for a while. I have fovorite numbers, but they haven't done much in the line of winning. Still thinking about using them, but QP's are less frustrating to me. Have a good day.
 
you can improve your odds

I laugh when i see people say it is the same odds for every number. take a sheet of lined long paper.put from latest to earliest the winning numbers from the last 30 draws every time a number shows up in the next draw,circle the 2 numbers. every time the bonus shows in a following draw circle that too.anytime a number is in the following but off by one, highlite it NOW
take the first 2 numbers and see how many times it.s x2 x3 x4 x5 e.g.2, 10
then take all the last 30 numbers and see what the number spacings are e.g
x2 +3+15+7+10+2. see how many times there is a +1 as compared to +24 or +22? there has been a 10 number gap 5 times in the last 20 draws.take one of the drawn numbers and see how many times a "paired" is drawn with it over the last 50 draws2 10 or 15,37 etc.i have only been playing around with this for a few weeks but have won more than lost.since a quick pick always seems to have one or 2 numbers right ,you can add 2 numbers+-1 .keep the first number ,add 1 to the second and third and forth keep #5#6from last draw.do the same but-1 and keep#4#5last draw then keep the first4 and add#4#6 from last drawnov21st2 10 13 15 28 41 17thwas 14 17 27 41 47 48the 41 carried over and 2 numbers are one apart just go back 20 draws and see!
 
you can improve your odds

I laugh when i see people say it is the same odds for every number. take a sheet of lined long paper.put from latest to earliest the winning numbers from the last 30 draws every time a number shows up in the next draw,circle the 2 numbers. every time the bonus shows in a following draw circle that too.anytime a number is in the following but off by one, highlite it NOW
take the first 2 numbers and see how many times it.s x2 x3 x4 x5 e.g.2, 10
then take all the last 30 numbers and see what the number spacings are e.g
x2 +3+15+7+10+2. see how many times there is a +1 as compared to +24 or +22? there has been a 10 number gap 5 times in the last 20 draws.take one of the drawn numbers and see how many times a "paired" is drawn with it over the last 50 draws2 10 or 15,37 etc.i have only been playing around with this for a few weeks but have won more than lost.since a quick pick always seems to have one or 2 numbers right ,you can add 2 numbers+-1 .keep the first number ,add 1 to the second and third and forth keep #5#6from last draw.do the same but-1 and keep#4#5last draw then keep the first4 and add#4#6 from last drawnov21st2 10 13 15 28 41 17thwas 14 17 27 41 47 48the 41 carried over and 2 numbers are one apart just go back 20 draws and see!
 

newbie101

Member
hello

roger.www said:
It looks like you got 4/29, I think had you not discarded
the 40s group you would have captured five or six.
Btw if you like you can get my email address from admin,
I can tell you how I am generating my numbers.
At this point I am developing the method and I don't feel like
posting my method here, particularly given the hostility I am getting for posting
things that I know to be true.


hi there! i'm just wondering if you can share your secret in generating your numbers. i've recently started playing canada's lotto 649 and i've lost all the time, and as a student, i consider my lost as a lot of money. i just want to figure out a way to start winning. tnx in advance for the help!!!!
 

LaoZ

Member
There are somethings that a greedy person never understands. You are right a greedy person can become a animal, but you talk to wrong persons. People here are serious researchers, they are not greedy.

LZ's 20 numbers hits 5 several times in last 10 draws, it is 10 times more than theoretical possibility(3.2153%), do you understand the meaning of this? Maybe the only thing a greedy person can say is he did not win.

sugargirl said:
Some people say chances of winning the lotto 649 would be like been struck by lightning.There right because if you were struck by lightning you wouldnt have ever predicted it.This whole thing of someone claiming they know the way to win the big jackpot is garbage.If they knew how ,do you think they would tell anyone.Wouldnt they already be a millionare from winning so much.Even fortune tellers cant predict it because they have been asked the question about lottery numbers for years,still no luck.We can all dream about winning but must realize it doesnt happen to everyone.Money makes people greedy to a point they become animals.
 

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