Can you make $$$ on Pick3?

[Icewynd]

From time to time, I read stories of people who are supposedly beating the Pick 3 game and who claim that Pick 3 generates a second source of income.

I always tend to disbelieve those claims, but then I've always been a cynic. It just seems to me that the way the game is set up makes it impossible to beat. Oh sure, you could have a run of luck over the short term, but I'm talking about coming out on top in the long run.

Just think -- a straight win (all 3 numbers in the correct order) pays about $500 (give or take -- our prizes in Ontario are pari-mutuel). But the odds of hitting any particular number are 1:1000, so on average it would cost $1,000 in bets to win $500 -- not a winning proposition. Imagine if someone came up to you on the street and offered to sell you a $500 dollar bill for $1,000 -- you would laugh in his face.

For boxed play (all 3 numbers correct, but in any order) you can win about $80-$90, but the odds are 1:220.

So, is anyone beating this game on a regular basis? Or do you know someone who does? Inquiring minds want to know.

Good luck!

 

[Mr_Rich]

I'm checking in after being gone for a while. I've continued to play the Daily 3 & 4 games weekly. I have long dry spells and then I have a month that makes up for to keep me in the game. The idea in betting is not to outspend the chance of your return. You can still get beat betting $50 to win $500. Not worth it IMO. I try to limit my bets to $5 to $10 a game depending on my vibe. I have some pet numbers in Daily 4 that I think are due. Last night one of my sets hit on the long shot combo. When I checked the results the lowest tier prize was $683...=8^0. I'll take it... It just means a trip to the lottery office to cash in.

 

[blitzed]

nice win Mr_Rich

likewise I do not like to let more than $5 to $10.

Icewynd, yeah pari-mutuel often sucks...sometimes it is miserably low meh! lottery gets greedy being so miserly, if I see a low payout, it turns me off from playing a long time.

some folks try to play pick3/4 kinda like roulette...cover numbers a certain way to knock the odds down, which can be good...BUT then play multiple sets of tickets gettin greedyin goin all in or doing martingale type crap.

I usually just bet some favs...maybe 4 or 5 digit box wheel when I feel that I can rule out doubles...then assuming doubles don't come, 5digit boxwheel is a $10 coin toss.

othertimes I have faith in probabilities in conjunction with some mirrorbase stuff to help boildown what appear to be just the very best targets.

goodluck,
blitzed

 

[Icewynd]

Hey Mr. Rich! Nice to see ya. Thanks for the input.

Looks like you are doing OK with the Pick3/4. [sarcasm]Too bad about having to go down to the Lottery office to collect [/sarcasm].

I definitely hear your message about keeping the bets low, otherwise you are just shooting yourself in the foot.

Do you guys play all the time, targeting "due" or "out" numbers? Or do you wait for special set-ups of some sort and then pounce?

Good luck!

 

[blitzed]

hiya Icewynd,

I usually wait to bet against doubles...if there are 3doubles in the last 10draws for example, or better last 2-3draws were doubles.

if I target doubles, I look back to see if there have been 2draws in a row with doubles, if not then I try to shoot doubles after a draw of doubles...I hit perfectly one time on a straight, and it was $429 on the straight/box split...pari-mutuel worked out in my favor I guess cuz others were betting against doubles.

I have not played any lottery yet this year

beware chasing cold numbers to the gates of hell! sometimes it is like a subroutine cheat flags a digit outta play, so they can take money from suckers betting heavily on it to appear again.

later,
blitzed

 

[Teufellj]

Icewynd and Pick3 in Ohio...

Pick3 is so simple and folks make rocket science formulas out of what they see others doing that makes a mockery and turn off for many players both "pro" and everyone in between to the rawest gamblers. No, I have not found a way(s) to get due diligence on a steady roll if you mean a hard formulae for a daily raid on the games, but the object is to out maneuver and try to out think just what the game makers next move can be and then slap 'em silly. Think like "Quantrils Raiders" of the civil war if you will. I don't try to beat the lottery at its own game where they are the pros but I allow them to walk cautiously when I'm around. The pick3 is not a guessing game but it is a game that can be beaten if you do your homework. Look for simple patterns; you don't need past history except as a guide past perhaps a month at most; think outside of the box and think for yourself. Most of my posts are only a fraction of what I try and many don't pan out very well. Mirrors and a mate in the winners is what will get you some do-ray-me and I have had very good successes. Many times I don't post what I play but I do post what should be possible winners!

See ya, Icewynd,

Teufellj...

 

[blitzed]

howdy Teufellj, yeah sometimes patterns can be exploited...but look at this crap, so many repeat pairs in last 9days of California Daily3 draws:
http://www.calottery.com/play/draw-games/daily-3/winning-numbers

tonights draw: 927
and previous night's draw: 921

17FEB: 531 EVE & 135 MID

16FEB: 857 EVE & 855 MID

double 0's draw twice
double 9's drawn twice

at least treating both games as one, a 5 did come off the double 0's, and 4 from the double 9's.

later,
blitzed

 

[foreverbob]

Hi everyone,
My opinion on pick 3 is that it is a nice lottery game to study. Following numbers on a daily basis can be a lot of fun, many strategies can be applied, some strategies work for a period of time while others wait to take over.
However the return of this game is very low and other games outside the lottery can be played and studied with better results and payouts.
I've been rereading some pick 3 systems and recently got back in game. I did decide to wheel less numbers than I used to, aiming to play a max of 4 numbers.
The Aquarius software and its strategy was pretty ok, playing 8 numbers does have its benefits, but to me that cost was too high. I worked out the positional skip system with the Aquarius programmer last year, but after lots of testings I gave up on further work related to positional skips and decided to have a pick 3 break.
That break looks like coming to its end....

Nice to be back!

Bob

 

[Icewynd]

Hi Bob,

Glad to hear you are taking up the Pick 3 challenge again -- I enjoyed your reports on the Aquarius experiment last year.

I hope you will keep us posted on your progress.

Good luck!

 

[Mr_Rich]

I find it's important to concentrate on the short game rather than the long one. On Daily 3 I use 20 games as my sample and 50 games as my Daily 4 sample. I could probably cut down the Daily 4 sample since 50 games sampling has turned in to a habit. I use 6 or 7 draws as a cutoff between my hot and cold picks.
When playing doubles one rule I try to follow is play AAB AND ABB. Not following that rule has bit me more than once.

 

[blitzed]

hiya foreverbob, welcome back

yeah, sometimes it is good to just sit on the sidelines, or walk away from a game for a while...then come at it from a fresh angle.

indeed sometimes gotta switch gears as the game can get fluid...things that worked for a while may suddenly no longer pan out.

later,
blitzed

 

[foreverbob]

Thank you.

Yes, most of what I intend to do basicly is based upon what Isaac E. Nwokogba explains in his 20 year old book easy dollars. Use a 20 games back reference and study the daily hot/cold and mostly the transitional numbers in grids of 5-10-15 and 20 games back.

I use one personal approach to get a KEY number. It doesnt come every draw, so sometimes, I just sit and wait. Once I get it, I stick to it untill it hits.

My main issue remains to pick the other two numbers: 3 of them, cos I play 4 boxed.
I usualy go for the most domininant (1or2) hot numbers in the last 5-10-15-20 games and (2or1) transitional numbers in the last 5-10 games.

I do enjoy hitting 2 numbers out of 3, when playing only 4 boxed even when it doesnt pay out. It somehow comforts me in not playing too many tickets....being patient in this game is better than raising the coverage of the bet itself.
I believe that playing 4 to 6 max number is ideal, depending on your budget.

 

[foreverbob]

i double posted a message, not able to delete it so Ill edit this one into a

 

[Icewynd]

Thank you.

Yes, most of what I intend to do basicly is based upon what Isaac E. Nwokogba explains in his 20 year old book easy dollars.

Surprisingly, the book is still in print -- $9.99 via Amazon Kindle. It seems to have proven its worth over the years. I might just have a look.

Thanks, Bob

 

[Jay123]

Hello,

I to have been wondering if money can be made playing pick 3. I have used mirroring, but I'm usually off by one number. I have yet to use real money on pick 3, I've been using the previous results of pick 3 to practice.

I'm going to be searching this forums to see if there's a way to increase my chances of winning.

 

[Icewynd]

I to have been wondering if money can be made playing pick 3. I have used mirroring, but I'm usually off by one number. I have yet to use real money on pick 3, I've been using the previous results of pick 3 to practice.

Yes, the one missing number can drive you crazy. I have made some occasional bets on the game and have won a few times, but have lost money overall.

I'm going to be searching this forums to see if there's a way to increase my chances of winning.

Good idea, Jay123. There's a lot of good stuff here. Let us know what you find.

Good luck!

 

[Winalot2007]

I had a system back in 1995 using an older DOS Pick 3 Lottery program called LotteryPro Micro Media. I would take the last 30, 60, 90 draws and use the Hot1, Hot2, Hot3, Points, S.D., Mean , and Hits. I would take the top number from each output screen. I would count the number of times each number 0 through 9 appeared in each. I would then create Pick 3 sets. Over the course of a couple weeks, Pick 3 set patterns or duplicates would appear. I would play these sets. I would play anywhere from 10 to 20 sets per day. I hit quite a few number of straights.

The downside to the program is that you need to create your Pick 3 game and manually add drawings.

I have 3000 past draws but you really need is about 1 years worth of draw history.

Here is the download link to the program.

You will need to create a new folder and unzip the contents into the new folder. I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit and this program still works.

If anyone can figure out how to create a Pick 3 game and import past drawings, this would be a time saver.

https://app.box.com/s/0la9ny7z87vrlzxu6z9e

 

[larbec]

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