banco - quebec 2 aug - 4 august

[roger.www]

Based on a system I use for ONTARIO kENO, that sometimes works for 4 numbers banco may play numbers in
the following series during the next couple of days:

1-2-3-7 -16-22-23-25-26- 30-31-48-49-50-55-57-61-62-63-64-65-67-69-70

For tonight 1 & 70 are very possible.

Hot pairs are: 1-7, 2-7 and 69-70

 

[Timmycard]

OK.
Thanks for posting these!
Lets put your set in order here

sets of 2 numbers
1-70
1-7
2-7
69-70
Now for Banco only I can give you these........
For 1- 70 considering that each of these following numbers didn't come up with that pair during the last 100 draws
67-66-65-23 54-12-31-36
For 1- 7 considering that each of these following numbers didn't come up with that pair during the last 100 draws
61-23-31-34-03-12-20-36-48-53-54-38-39-45
For 2- 7 considering that each of these following numbers didn't come up with that pair during the last 100 draws
only 26
For 69- 70 considering that each of these following numbers didn't come up with that pair during the last 100 draws
64-63-33-31-28-36-05-48-08

Now if these pairs that you mentionned come up according to your probabilities maybe it would be wise to cris-cross references between your list
1-2-3-7 -16-22-23-25-26- 30-31-48-49-50-55-57-61-62-63-64-65-67-69-70
and the numbers I just posted...

 

[roger.www]

Now if these pairs that you mentionned come up according to your probabilities maybe it would be wise to cris-cross references between your list
1-2-3-7 -16-22-23-25-26- 30-31-48-49-50-55-57-61-62-63-64-65-67-69-70
and the numbers I just posted...

That's exactly the correct way to proceed.
You criss -cross between different decades. In some decades there will be 2 or 3 correct adjacent to each other so if you are only looking to get 4/4, you are in business.
The numbers I posted are probably not much use for 7 or 8 # game.
You would have to mix my numbers with repeaters if you want 7 or 8.

 

[robertlanglois]

Hi Roger,

Thanks very much for your post. Can you explain more on this system you use for Ontario Keno that sometimes works for Banco? That's exactly what I am looking for: A system to win 4/4, not more than that for now.

I'll have to check those numbers out. In the past, when you have posted numbers for Banco, they showed up soon afterwards.

 

[roger.www]

They did not come last night, but if banco works
like Ont keno you may find a lot them coming the same day
in the near future.

As for the method. you look at the last
digit 1=1, 15=5 etc. 36=6 etc

tabulate the last 2 numbers to appear for each last digit.

Like
1= 61,11
2: 22, 62
3- 33, 53 etc



You then put them in numeric order as I have done above.
You create 4# combos bouncing back and forth between decades.
Use common sense when you do this:
mix high & low, odd and even.
What will happen, over a few days, some of your decades may have
2, 3, or 4 correct. You can update your records daily.

The other thing you will find is lots of repeating
from the list once the series has been "initiated".
So once you prepare the numbers for one draw
keep them somewhere safe, at least for a few days.

For some draws you will also find that
it is the second last numbers to appear
that will come heavily. Don't necessarily put more weight
on the last number to appear.

 

[robertlanglois]

Hi Roger, thanks for your answer. I will try your method. Tell me if I'm doing this right.

Looking at the last digits, I check which numbers were the last ones to show from each. These are the most recent numbers to be drawn from each group.

For example, on Saturday, we had four numbers with last digit 0.

20 - 30 - 50 - 60

So these are my numbers for LD0

Here is the complete list:

0: 20 - 30 - 50 - 60
1: 11 - 21
2: 12 - 22 - 32 - 62
3: 13 - 33
4: 04 - 14 - 34 - 54
5: 35 - 45 - 55
6: 06 - 26 - 36
7: 27 - 47
8: 28 - 58
9: 09 - 19 - 69

I know you said take the last TWO numbers from each last digit group but sometimes, we get more than two numbers from those groups so that's why I posted three or four sometimes. What do we do when this happens? Should we use all four or randomly choose two of them?

Now, I would create combos from those numbers by making sure to mix odd / even, high / low, decades, last digit, etc.

Example:

04-06-20-21
22-27-62-69
11-34-36-47
etc.

Since I am looking only for some 4/4 wins, only using those numbers would be best I think. If you want to win more, than maybe this method should be combined with another method.

Please let me know if I did this right. Thanks!

 

[roger.www]

Hi Roger, thanks for your answer. I will try your method. Tell me if I'm doing this right.

Looking at the last digits, I check which numbers were the last ones to show from each. These are the most recent numbers to be drawn from each group.

For example, on Saturday, we had four numbers with last digit 0.

20 - 30 - 50 - 60

So these are my numbers for LD0

Here is the complete list:

0: 20 - 30 - 50 - 60
1: 11 - 21
2: 12 - 22 - 32 - 62
3: 13 - 33
4: 04 - 14 - 34 - 54
5: 35 - 45 - 55
6: 06 - 26 - 36
7: 27 - 47
8: 28 - 58
9: 09 - 19 - 69

I know you said take the last TWO numbers from each last digit group but sometimes, we get more than two numbers from those groups so that's why I posted three or four sometimes. What do we do when this happens? Should we use all four or randomly choose two of them?

Now, I would create combos from those numbers by making sure to mix odd / even, high / low, decades, last digit, etc.

Example:

04-06-20-21
22-27-62-69
11-34-36-47
etc.

Since I am looking only for some 4/4 wins, only using those numbers would be best I think. If you want to win more, than maybe this method should be combined with another method.

Please let me know if I did this right. Thanks!

That is the correct way to do it. Now for the days
where you had more than 2, you can maybe delete the ones that repeated
more before that. You may also want to arrange your results
in ascending order. You then draw your 4 numbers by bouncing back and forth
between decades.

Now to get 7 with this method, you would need to use other parameters
ofcourse ( eg: mix these numbers with those that you expect to repeat.)
Or just select a decade which you think is coming let's say 60-70.
You mix with numbers from your sample.

eg: 4-6-20-64-65-69-70
4-6-20-63-64-67-70

etc




For 4/4 this method seems to work best the day AFTER many repeats were
played ( 7-9).

 

[roger.www]

Ok,,, I noticed something..you are picking the most recently drawn..I meant
the least recently drawn 2 numbers.

ie: for last digit 1..which 2 numbers have not played for the longest time etc...

Regardless .. it would be interesting to see how well the series you prepared
will perform. There is no reason it would not work for 4 numbers.

 

[robertlanglois]

Thanks Roger for correcting my mistake. We can check how the above set will perform tonight. Had I followed your method correctly, these would have been the correct numbers.


0: 10 - 40 - 70
1: 01 - 31
2: 02 - 42 - 52
3: 43 - 63
4: 24 - 64
5: 25 - 65
6: 16 - 46 - 66
7: 07 - 17 - 57
8: 38 - 48
9: 39 - 49


Arranged in ascending order:

01 02 07 10 16 17 24 25 31 38 39 40 42 43 46 48 49 52 57 63 64 65 66 70

It's easy from that to make random combinations by respecting the conditions you mentionned in your other post.

For the extra numbers to eliminate, I don't know at this point which ones to remove so I left them all there as a test. It's easy to find out though which ones repeated the most before their last appearance.

Over the next few weeks, I must try this on paper to see if I can get anything going. No system exists to win everytime obviously. I just want a system that can make me win 4/4 on a regular basis.

 

[roger.www]

You should monitor both series on paper. I would guess the series
you did first would not perform too badly either..particularly if repeats
have been slow ( 5 or less ) ---that series would perform well for 4 numbers.

 

[roger.www]

Ont keno

robert- For ONT keno tonight I lost
but when I look at the numbers
I almost certainly would have got 4/4
had I used your first method ( most recently played )
as the basis for analysis
------------------------------------
3-Aug-2008
Sun
02 03 07 16 18
19 22 23 24 26 28 32 33 35 54 58 61 65 68 69

02-Aug-2008


Sat
01 03 10 13 18
19 22 29 35 39 43 52 53 59 60 61 67 68 69 70



01-Aug-2008

Fri
03 04 09 12 13
18 20 23 26 27 35 36 42 43 50 51 55 58 67 69

 

[roger.www]

Arranged in ascending order:

01 02 07 10 16 17 24 25 31 38 39 40 42 43 46 48 49 52 57 63 64 65 66 70

Actual:
2008-08-03
09 11 13 15 [ 16 17] 20 [ 25 ]33 34
[46] 51 53 54 58 61 [65 66] 69 [70]

 

[robertlanglois]

That's great Roger! Maybe my mistake today will help create a new method that can make us win some money.

If a lot of repeats have apppeared recently, maybe it's time to play the colder numbers. If little repeats have appeared recently, maybe it's time to play the most recent numbers.

This method can't work everyday of course.

For Banco today, the "most recently played numbers method" generated 9 correct numbers out of the 29 I posted. Not a lot.

For the second set of numbers, "the coldest numbers method" it generated 7 correct numbers out of the 24 I posted. Again, not a lot.

But I need to eliminate a few numbers to bring down the total to 20... hopefully removing numbers that won't be drawn. If I generate enough combos, it's possible to get a 4/4. Especially if the hits are across different decades and last digit groups.

I need to test this method more. Thanks for posting this.

 

[roger.www]

actually you got 2 adjacent pairs correct
16-17-65-66
so if you were bouncing back and forth between decades you could still win..though
in this case you would need a few combos..so the profit would not be big.

The other thing to note is most of the numbers missed where repeaters from the last
2 draws.

 

[Timmycard]

Congrats Roger your 69-70 consecutive pair hit yesterday !

 

[roger.www]

Congrats Roger your 69-70 consecutive pair hit yesterday !

Thanks..
but 1- 10 ? Banco Commissioner skipping that for too long ???

 

[robertlanglois]

Banco is a hard game.

One would think that because a number group has been showing up less than normal for the last few draws, it should come strong the following draw. But Banco doesn't work that way.

From July 31 to August 3 (4 draws), we saw a total of seven numbers from the 01-10 number group. Normally over four draws, we see 12. So, does this mean that on August 4, we see a lot of numbers from that group to compensate? No... only 3 numbers from that group showed.

Banco does this a lot. It will most likely bring back that number group to its average but slowly. Just a few numbers each draw.

 

[xcentric]

Arranged in ascending order:

Roberts picks
01 02 07 10 16 17 24 25 31 38 39 40 42 43 46 48 49 52 57 63 64 65 66 70

Roger, for 4/4 dont you usually narrow it down to 10numbers and under? otherwise it would be quite hard to mix/match, too many combos.

for keno, i tried to incorporate a similiar way to test

i anaylzised the numbers aug 2nd-4th, and as a result for the 5th

04 05 20 22 24 25 33 34 36 40 44 46 48 50 52 56 57 59 60 67

my picks, mix with overdos, and the ones i felt were coming. but instead of playing them individually, i use them in pairs, similiar to the ajacent method.

so techincally, i would need to mix/match 10 pairs or so, which is about 50tickets i believe

4 14

34 44 64

5 25

45 55

6 36

46 56 66

11 21

31 51

38 48

49 50

the downfall is out of the 9number wins, only 5, 25 would win, due to being played in pairs. otherwise i would get some 4/5s and few 3/4s
if i decided to take out 64 and 66, i would have netted few 4/4s, but out of the 3numbers within itself 44 54 64, - 46 56 66 i would have to create more combos........ 44 54, 54 64, 44 64 - 46 56, 56, 66, 46, 66, etc...... which is a bit too much

or perhaps this isnt the best idea, cause you usually hit 4/4 with 16lines or so right?

 

[xcentric]

unless i just focused on those 6numbers, it only takes 15pairs, but to play both methods, its too costly.

 

[roger.www]

unless i just focused on those 6numbers, it only takes 15pairs, but to play both methods, its too costly.

It really is a question of timing, the overdue method works best when repeats have been heavy in recent draws. In that case you may find several decades with
2-3 numbers correct. So then even if you do 16 combos, you may end up scoring multiple hits of 4/4.
We need to find a way to mix the overdue with recently played.....not easy.
Next Sunday when I have time I will try a few things.