# 6/49 Discussion For February 04, 2004

#### Beaker

##### Member
Frank's tickets sorted

Frank,

I'll put them here for reference so we can easily spot the BIG winners

1 7 11 21 34 37
1 11 13 15 27 34
2 4 11 13 22 34
2 11 13 37 43 45
2 11 15 34 37 42
2 12 13 34 37 40
3 10 19 22 36 42
3 10 22 36 42 43
4 11 13 19 23 34
4 11 13 27 36 37
4 11 30 34 37 48
4 11 34 37 38 49
4 11 34 37 40 43
4 12 14 15 21 44
4 12 15 21 44 45
4 13 28 34 37 46
4 13 34 37 41 42
7 11 13 14 34 40
7 11 13 15 30 37
7 12 13 27 34 37
8 11 13 21 34 49
8 11 13 37 40 45
8 11 14 34 36 37
8 12 13 23 34 37
8 13 15 34 37 48
11 12 13 19 37 38
11 12 13 28 34 43
11 12 22 34 36 37
11 12 34 37 41 49
11 13 14 23 37 41
11 13 20 21 23 34
11 13 21 34 36 48
11 13 21 34 38 42
11 13 34 41 45 46
11 13 37 42 45 49
11 14 20 34 37 46
11 19 28 34 37 45
11 22 34 37 45 48
11 23 27 34 37 45
13 14 19 34 37 43
13 14 30 34 37 42
13 14 34 37 48 49
13 15 20 34 37 49
13 15 22 34 37 46
13 19 21 22 34 37
13 20 34 37 38 45
13 21 28 34 37 40
13 30 34 36 37 45

#### hot4

##### Member
Re: Frank's tickets sorted

Beaker said:
Frank,

I'll put them here for reference so we can easily spot the big winners

1 7 11 21 34 37
[snip]....
13 30 34 36 37 45

Well done Beaker, it's easier to understand the wheel this way and the winners will flash too . I forgot to tell that I made this wheel in LottoDesigner 28 numbers Max=5 Min=5, with Max=1 Min=1 of 04-12-14-15-21-44-45 and other sets of numbers Max=3 Min=0.

I'm expecting at least 4 numbers of the 28. Let's see.

#### gsobier

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Frank:

Its mostly common sense... ...the most important thing besides hitters in your set is how they are put together which I'm sure most understand.

There is one thing I'd try... ...allow only 1 hit at the most from any row... ...if the results fit into that rule, you could find some big hitters.

Regards,
George
hot4 said:
To hit 4 with only 4 numbers is expected 1 in 211.876,00 draws , to hit 3 1 in 1.177,09 draws and to hit 2 is expected in +- 35 draws. However we cannot play only 6 numbers in a 6/49 lottery.

The ideal method would be the one which picked the 1-2 numbers that will hit. Till now I only see some chances while selecting 2 numbers from each row (14 numbers). 14 numbers are easy to wheel within a common budget.

Thanks for your opinion George,

Frank

#### Dennis Bassboss

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The consecutives numbers will haunt this draw forever....

#### hot4

##### Member
gsobier said:
Frank:

Its mostly common sense... ...the most important thing besides hitters in your set is how they are put together which I'm sure most understand.

There is one thing I'd try... ...allow only 1 hit at the most from any row... ...if the results fit into that rule, you could find some big hitters.

Regards,
George

OK George, I understand what you mean. I've made some tests +- 10 draws before, using this method and sometimes the 7 groups of 4 numbers hit 2. I've seen the 6 numbers in them 2+2+2. In three groups of 4 numbers, there were the 6! (one group of 35 possible(12 numbers))

Figure 2-2-1?-1?-0-0 happened too. This is the reason why I put Max=2 Min=0. Figure 1-1-1-1-1?-1?-0 would be more expected I think but may be the method has this capability: to group hitters. May be ...

But your suggestion I'll take it and check next draws.

#### hot4

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colonel4 said:
I am looking at:

7,8,11,12,13,29,30,31,32,33,35,37,39,41,42

especially like 7,11,13,32,37,42

From the 9 numbers you selected from the 7 groups there were 2 hits: 8 and 37. 2 in 9 is good picking!

#### Dennis Bassboss

##### Member
Beaker said:
LD 7 is BIG 7-17-37-47
Yes 2 out of 9 from Colonel is good picking...and 2 out of 4 is outstanding picking by the Beak....

#### Dennis Bassboss

##### Member
Beaker said:
1901 is interesting
And 1900 hapenned to have 37-38....awesome call again here...

#### Dennis Bassboss

##### Member
Dennis Bassboss said:
The only thing that I can add to this is that these numbers have not come in first position in the last 21 draws.. 08-10-11-12 (that is counting 7 positions instead of the misleading 6 positions)
You can now scratch that 08 from this group.... Should have played a few from there....

#### Dennis Bassboss

##### Member
Sometimes I'm so good that I forget to listen to myself....

#### gsobier

##### Member
Frank:

If you can always have all 7 hits in your rows then you are doing great.

When you have all hitters, you can get away with a maximum of only 1 on a row many times. Once in a while more than 2 rows will spoil your draw. In the event 3 or even 4 are on a row, you are still able to get 3 hitters but its really tough to do that. Getting 2-2-2 like you did in the last draw is fairly rare too. Choose your rows wisely is the best advise I could give.

Its a good idea to always make sure you have a few rows where only 1 number from a row is selected for any given combination.

Regards,
George
hot4 said:
OK George, I understand what you mean. I've made some tests +- 10 draws before, using this method and sometimes the 7 groups of 4 numbers hit 2. I've seen the 6 numbers in them 2+2+2. In three groups of 4 numbers, there were the 6! (one group of 35 possible(12 numbers))

Figure 2-2-1?-1?-0-0 happened too. This is the reason why I put Max=2 Min=0. Figure 1-1-1-1-1?-1?-0 would be more expected I think but may be the method has this capability: to group hitters. May be ...

But your suggestion I'll take it and check next draws.

#### peter

##### Member
peter said:
My observation on the spread line, leaves me to believe the spread number will be an odd number, it's been even the last 4 draws.
This was right on the money.

#### hot4

##### Member
gsobier said:
Frank:

If you can always have all 7 hits in your rows then you are doing great.

When you have all hitters, you can get away with a maximum of only 1 on a row many times. Once in a while more than 2 rows will spoil your draw. In the event 3 or even 4 are on a row, you are still able to get 3 hitters but its really tough to do that. Getting 2-2-2 like you did in the last draw is fairly rare too. Choose your rows wisely is the best advise I could give.

Its a good idea to always make sure you have a few rows where only 1 number from a row is selected for any given combination.

Regards,
George

If it happens 7 numbers inside 28 numbers, I presume that at least one group of 4 will hit 2 numbers. The problem arises when only 4 numbers hit.

In the small sample of past draws I've seen, it happened 2 numbers in a row even when only 4 hitters but twice it happened 1-1-1-1.

Till now I cannot make myself sure that these groups are more prone to hit 2 than expected but it's something to watch in future. Next draw, I'll play max=1 Min=0 George.