4-number game using overdue numbers

roger.www

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Lightning778 said:
ok, I see what you mean, but would you play 3 or 4 overdue numbers together for a certain amount of draws or mix them up a bit, just curious of this strategy seems to be working quite well for some
It's called g a m b l i n g Liwghtining778

You have to try different permutations, take chances, but imo you are best off mixing overdue #s with other numbers.
I have seen them draw 4 of the top overdue in a single draw but that's rare.

Thanks dhs - regarding Xmas fund, hopefully things work out for you and me and everyone..: at least we are trying ..lol
 

roger.www

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roger.www said:
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Keno (Ontario)
 From: TUE 10/17/06	 Thru: TUE 12/05/06
 Total draws in selected range	 50
 Top 6 hot numbers	 39, 57, 14, 35, 02, 03
 Top 6 cold numbers	 13, 53, 37, 30, 25, 68
 Top 6 overdue numbers	 17, 53, 68, 30, 13, 26
Well..from the list above only 53, 30
came tonight. I did have both but had
53-54 in my combo. I think when they replay lots of numbers
from the last 2 draws it throws everyone off.
Like you Dhs, I really thought 17 would be played
tonight.

I am testing a wheel that I designed for
6#s & 7#s ( or: should I say a wheel that I modified, the original wheel is not by me).
I must say I am happy with the results so far. Using the wheel I was able to get
5/6 Ont Keno ( 2 lines ) a couple of days ago. Tonight, using the wheel, I had 5/7 - 5 lines.

Refund for tonight was:
5/7 Keno ( 5 lines ) = $25.00
3/6 - 649 ( 4 lines) = $40.00
________
Total refund = $65.00
________
 
hope you guys/gals do not think I am confused, which I seem to be lol, but overdue numbers would be represented by the blue on the frequency chart for keno
 

roger.www

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Lightning778 said:
sorry guys/gals, I found it, wow do I need more coffee this morning, lol ! This has been very helpful to me, thanks all !
You will not find a list of overdue numbers
at the OLGC, you will need to find a website that
cranks them out.
I don't know how to stress this but you need to do some
hard work to win anything from one of these lotteries unless you are
one of those rare very lucky folks. It's hard enough to win, but if you are going
to spend some money take some time to think about your numbers
and do some research so at least you can say you gave it a good shot.
Otherwise you are just throwing your money away. Even if it's a small amount you are spending every week that can add up up to a good sum of $$$ after a year of gambling.
 
I agree, I am doing quite a bit of reasearch, one of the 6 overdue came tonight, it is a start, darn would like to see 3 or 4 of them come up mixed in with some other good numbers. My problem was only using number from the last 4 draws or so, but adding in overdue numbers really makes things more promising for me. Good luck all !!
 

LottoGator

Member
Keno

I just started playing Keno the other day.
I decided on a strategy as follows - tell me what you think.
I took the list of numbers' frequency from the www.olgc.ca site,
then I picked 3 frequent numbers that were cold, then I picked 1 infrequent number that was cold, and the rest I picked from in between these 2 polars.
Not very scientific but probably pretty close to calculating skips etc.
I've got a hobby-site started, very colourful... incomplete though it's getting there - it is basically about my search for the holy grail of lotto strategies.
 
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roger.www

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Interesting site you have.
I think with Keno the most useful strategy is to correctly guess the
number groups that are coming. If you guess that correctly you are in business.
In my experience the other strategies are secondary.
Even when a number is hot or overdue it will likely be skipped
if it's not in one of the active groups for that draw.

Once you identify the groups that are coming the strategy is then to wheel the numbers in the groups you selected.
 

LottoGator

Member
Keno - Playing Groups

I know!!! I think I am getting better at it... I'm thinking that tonite (Feb 20th) the 60's are the one... I've been trying to guess them lately...the 60's have underdrawn for the last three draws...

I've been thinking about a buying strategy also... I'm always going for the big pot... playing category 10 and buying 3 to 5 tickets a day.

A better buying strategy might be to play a smaller category, like the category 7 or 8 and stick to two group ie 60's (1's also I'm thinking) that might come up.. plus a very cold number and a very cold number that was cold last draw and might likely repeat. (you can drive yourself batty with this stuff)

I don't know.. I may try it next week and see how it goes.
 
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roger.www

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LottoGator said:
I know!!! I think I am getting better at it... I'm thinking that tonite (Feb 20th) the 60's are the one... I've been trying to guess them lately...the 60's have underdrawn for the last three draws...

I've been thinking about a buying strategy also... I'm always going for the big pot... playing category 10 and buying 3 to 5 tickets a day.

A better buying strategy might be to play a smaller category, like the category 7 or 8 and stick to two group ie 60's (1's also I'm thinking) that might come up.. plus a very cold number and a very cold number that was cold last draw and might likely repeat. (you can drive yourself batty with this stuff)

I don't know.. I may try it next week and see how it goes.


Re: buying strategy I always have 4# game in my portfolio
as insurance ..every other day on average I get at least one line correct and that helps with the costs. So far this month I am at $1,400 in winnings.
$1, 200 is from 4# game. Something you may want to consider as it generally
takes a few tries to get anything more than 6/6 ---no matter how good you are.
 
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dhs

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Roger.www

Still no winners since Jan 11.

1-10 and 60's are due.
No overdue last night.

Who would have guessed 7 #'s in the 30's!


20-Jan-2007

07 08 15 20 22 25 26 27 32 33
34 35 37 38 39 50 55 57 64 70

This is the first time for these 7#s
6/7 has happened 5 x before.



Cheers and good luck!

DHS
 

LottoGator

Member
Keno (Ontario)

I think that playing the category 4 is a good idea.
The funny thing is I think you're talking about Keno in Quebec, here in Ontario it is very funny but 3 of your 4 cold numbers that played last night are in our cold numbers for Ontario Keno tonight
(for Keno you can consider a number that has not played more than 10 draws to be 'cold' and worth chasing... opinion btw)

9 (13 draws)
40 (13 draws)
1 (11 draws)
11 (11 draws)
and
65 (10 draws)
23 (9 draws)
19 (8 draws)
46 (8 draws)
69 (7 draws)
6 (7 draws)
58 (6 draws)
31 (5 draws)
60 (5 draws)

I plan on playing tonight with the 4 category a few combinations of these.
The odds are much better, though the prize is nowhere near $250K.

To note: In the Ontario Keno... the group 60's has been underplayed - no more that 3 drawn at a time since the last 12 draws... and for 7 of those 12 draws only 2, 1 or no numbers in the 60's have drawn.
So I am going to wheel 40's and 10's with the 60's and also 40's 1's and 60's and play the category 10 because though the odds are bad, I am playing tonite to win $250K!!

Did you know that about 29% of the numbers drawn are repeats from the previous draw. That means that 5 to 6 of the 20 numbers in the last draw are repeats (most of the time)... I eliminate numbers from the last draw that have already repeated 4/3 and even 2 times, because I can't afford to play everything (otherwise why play? I would have no need lol).

So for each line I try to include one number from the cold group that has been out 11 or more games, and one that has been out 8 to 10 games and one that has been out 5 - 7 games.

I just decided to play this style tonite!! I'll post if I lost (if I win I'll probably be on my way to Toronto to collect, and then to Jamaica after that).

I am using LottoPro to wheel - I use the 'create smart ticket' button but then I usually deselect and reselect the numbers I want to play.

You can try it for free for 2 weeks - no spyware or viruses or any other garbage comes with it, I have tried it and bought it after my 2 weeks because I actually won $400 during my 2-week trial (I was hoping it wasn't beginner's luck but I'm starting to wonder).

I like it so much I am now an affiliate. You can download the 2-week trial at <<< when you registered here you agreed not to post affiliate ad links >>>
Or you can read about it at I discuss it alot because I always use it. It is just sooooo much easier to wheel numbers. I have a group at work that I organized and it is much faster to wheel 44 6/49 tickets using LottoPro than when I use to wheel them manually using wheeling formats I'd find on the web.

Good luck to all playing tonite!
 
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Message to Roger.WWW

Hello Roger, just wondering if you can pm me the wheel you use for pick 4. I am getting close, I think I am missing the wheel that would put it all together. I would really appreciate it as have I seen your winning of pick 4 over the month and my jaw drops, you sure have the right formula there. Thanks in advance


Lightning778
 

dhs

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Lightning778 said:
Hello Roger, just wondering if you can pm me the wheel you use for pick 4. I am getting close, I think I am missing the wheel that would put it all together. I would really appreciate it as have I seen your winning of pick 4 over the month and my jaw drops, you sure have the right formula there. Thanks in advance


Lightning778


That would be nice Roger!
No luck last night for me.
Had 4 3/4 combos last night.

DHS
 
number of #'s in pool for 4/4

hello all, Roger.WWW if you don't use a specific wheel and if you do, how many numbers do you use in your pool for pick 4 ? Or could you give me a rough estimate of how many tickets you buy to hit 4/4 on a regular basis. I am sure willing to lay down a few bucks to hit 4/4 on a semi consistent basis :agree: , also anyone else feel free to respond, I sure appreciate any input you may have.


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dhs

Member
No winners here last night.Had the 60's but 3/4 and again.

Anyone who is consistently winning would have and is building up a "war chest" so to speak and therefore is prepared to lay down a substantial amount each night - exactly what amount is anyone's guess but I think you get my point.
The more combos of #'s ..the greater the chance of a refund.


Quote from Roger:


I do play more than the average person.
My strategy is..if I play a lot..say $120.00
I make sure that I include a good percentage
of 4 number game. That is insurance, usually I get at least one line.
4/4 .....$100.00 and that covers my costs.




Cheers!

PS The color of money!
 

dhs

Member
Tonight

Lightning778 said:
thanks dhs, for your quick reply, I have to say you are quite helpful, and looking forward to more posts from you !


Decided to listen to Neil Young - Down By The River when picking tonight's winning numbers!

Maybe Neil and I will collect.

Surely some overdue will pop up!

Cheers
 

dhs

Member
No winners last night - I sent Neil Young packing!
Several 3/4 but no WINNERS.
That new man doing the draw at the lottery has definitely screwed things.
I noticed at PIC THREE the identical numbers have been drawn for 2 consecutive nights :184
Figure that out.

Replay perhaps tonight!


Cheers!

DHS
 

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