Curious Jack, are there small utility wheel programs that are freeware, and that you can simply input your chosen numbers into a field and then choose your wheel and then have it spit out the combos with out a hole lot of fanfare? I've looked around the net and have seen a lot of pen and paper wheels being offered but that can be extremely time consuming. Other programs which are of the purchase type offer a lot of other bells and whistles that I don't really need. Thank you for your help. One further note, I would like to have the outputted file in a format that I could easily translate into excel. Thanks again.