Wheeling doubts
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Rob Erhardt
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Wheeling
Don`t worry...it dosen`t!!!
Nor does it increase your jackpot chances vs. random
numbers(assuming you have the same number of tickets).
The sole purpose of wheeling is to INCREASE the number
of secondary prizes...while at the same time reducing the
odds.
Rob
Don`t worry...it dosen`t!!!
Nor does it increase your jackpot chances vs. random
numbers(assuming you have the same number of tickets).
The sole purpose of wheeling is to INCREASE the number
of secondary prizes...while at the same time reducing the
odds.
Rob
lottoarchitect
Member
Exactly as Rob Erhardt said. Also a well made wheel can give you more multiple hits in lower divisions. Still the chances to win the jackpot is equal to the total tickets played.
...to nail a 6 hitter in 6/49, it all comes down to the correct pair of unqiue triples on the same line... ...if you fail to have both of them, the line with the correct triple and a 2 out of three match would give you the 5 hitter... ...its a matter of being in perfect sync to get what you have been promised... ...the fine print is the condition/requirement I explained above...
lottoarchitect said:
Thank you guys for the clarifications!! I guess I read a lot of confusions and some ppl argue about wheeling vs random. If wheeling gives much more than random selection, so wheeling is they way to go right?
Lets just say I want to use the 5/6 wheel with a 12 numbers. IF I do get all the 7of7 in a 6/49+B game right, it guarantees me a 5-winning set. But what are the chances of me getting a Jackpot? It is not guaranteed right? How many percentages? I am curious as to which is much better, to use a 4/6 or a 4/5 or a 4/4 to wheel. My local games only provide prizes for a minimum 3+B hits and above. Else, it is a no-winning set. So, which is giving me the best shot at the jackpot? I would appreciate it if you guys gives me the insight. I know the smaller prizes are great for consistencies... but we know that we all want to hit the jackpot. That is the bottom line of the game. That is one of the reason we play.... right?
Lets just say I want to use the 5/6 wheel with a 12 numbers. IF I do get all the 7of7 in a 6/49+B game right, it guarantees me a 5-winning set. But what are the chances of me getting a Jackpot? It is not guaranteed right? How many percentages? I am curious as to which is much better, to use a 4/6 or a 4/5 or a 4/4 to wheel. My local games only provide prizes for a minimum 3+B hits and above. Else, it is a no-winning set. So, which is giving me the best shot at the jackpot? I would appreciate it if you guys gives me the insight. I know the smaller prizes are great for consistencies... but we know that we all want to hit the jackpot. That is the bottom line of the game. That is one of the reason we play.... right?
I think you can get 5if6, wheeling 12 numbers, in 36 lines. As there are 924 possible lines with 12 numbers, your chance of winning 6 numbers if 6 are drawn is 36/924, it means +- 3,8%. You are playing 36 (3,8%) of all (924) possible lines of 12 numbers.
But let's say your wheel guarantees 5if6 in 42 lines. Your chance to win 6if6 is 42/924, slightly more
But let's say your wheel guarantees 5if6 in 42 lines. Your chance to win 6if6 is 42/924, slightly more
luckyhorse
Member
if the wheel guarantees 5/6 and you have a ll 6 in the group of 12 then hitting that 6 th number on that selection that contained 5 would be 1 in 7 as there are only 7 numbers left ???? is this correct?
bloubul
Member
Hi To "ALL THE TOP GUNS" the KARNAC's & Nick's
This wheeling and dealing is very confusing to me.
I,m looking for a "MONSTER" of a wheel, it must contain the following guarantee: 26_(6, 5(+), 7)_400.
I'm tired of these small tips and seldom a fair one.
So are you TOP GUNS up to it?
BlouBul
This wheeling and dealing is very confusing to me.
I,m looking for a "MONSTER" of a wheel, it must contain the following guarantee: 26_(6, 5(+), 7)_400.
I'm tired of these small tips and seldom a fair one.
So are you TOP GUNS up to it?
BlouBul
bloubul said:Hi To "ALL THE TOP GUNS" the KARNAC's & Nick's
This wheeling and dealing is very confusing to me.
I,m looking for a "MONSTER" of a wheel, it must contain the following guarantee: 26_(6, 5(+), 7)_400.
I'm tired of these small tips and seldom a fair one.
So are you TOP GUNS up to it?
BlouBul
Please Bloubul....when it comes to wheeling don't ever put me in the same sentence as Nick.....he is a wheeling genius....my forte is number analysis using trapping as opposed to hitting correct numbers. I only wish I had the math prowess and wheeling skills of Nick, GillesD, and Rob E. and other members who frequent this board. I would have won this $&#%$ thing by now.
You have to pick the right numbers or no wheel will ever help you win the big one.
Cheers
bloubul
Member
Karnac
I mearly thought that you, Nick and a small number of other highly aclaimed "TOP GUNS" can help me, if I have insulted you , then I do apologize.
Can I send you two sets of numbers which I think can be excluded for the next two draws of the South African Lotto, and you do your analysis.
BlouBul
I mearly thought that you, Nick and a small number of other highly aclaimed "TOP GUNS" can help me, if I have insulted you , then I do apologize.
Can I send you two sets of numbers which I think can be excluded for the next two draws of the South African Lotto, and you do your analysis.
BlouBul
bloubul said:Karnac
I mearly thought that you, Nick and a small number of other highly aclaimed "TOP GUNS" can help me, if I have insulted you , then I do apologize.
Can I send you two sets of numbers which I think can be excluded for the next two draws of the South African Lotto, and you do your analysis.
BlouBul
Go 4 it......and no offense taken.....cheers
Include your last 2 draws so I find the proper lottery.
...18,424 triples is the exact count... ...I didn't bother to count a 3 number DN full wheel... ...what do 930 sets contain/represent?... ...do you want me to check?... ...its not hard to do...
tomtom said:Well, there are something like 18500 or a bit less triples...and a bit more than 930 lines is necessary to have one before the fine print
...I wish
there was OS/2 these days... ...unfortunately, I have to use crappy
second rate software to be compatible with clients... ...there are some who are more stubborn and run Linux as an example and get software which compensates for the differences... ...it more of a hassle do this and you look bad in the eyes of the customer when something goes wrong, not a good idea...
This all goes back to the point in history where MicroCRAP did the marketing and suckered in the users who had no expertise and didn't know better... ...I know better and the bar is set much too low
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there was OS/2 these days... ...unfortunately, I have to use crappy second rate software to be compatible with clients... ...there are some who are more stubborn and run Linux as an example and get software which compensates for the differences... ...it more of a hassle do this and you look bad in the eyes of the customer when something goes wrong, not a good idea...This all goes back to the point in history where MicroCRAP did the marketing and suckered in the users who had no expertise and didn't know better... ...I know better and the bar is set much too low
.tomtom said:Well, had somewhere 6/49 3 out of 3 printed in 933 lines ...you might get less lines...because of that IBM of yours?
gsobier said:...I wish
Does it mean you are going to make a business empire offering a first rate software....
...or you are just thinking about it...?...don't temp me... ...there is not enough of my time available to do the job right... ...part of the problem is too many things go wrong because someone has "done their own thing"... ...the most obvious evidence has resulted with consequences where special coding is required in webpages because the parties writing software are competing against each other... ...if that is not dumb, I don't know what is... ...one of the most challenging things in technology is to prevent compatibility issues... ...even under the same roof, I've seen this because there was no or lack of agreement for critical components and the wrong decicions were made... ...sometimes, the ones making the decicions are not competent and everyone suffers...
... ...one of the most challenging things in technology is to prevent compatibility issues... ...even under the same roof, I've seen this because there was no or lack of agreement for critical components and the wrong decicions were made... ...sometimes, the ones making the decicions are not competent and everyone suffers...tomtom said:Does it mean you are going to make a business empire offering a first rate software....