Using the Cartesian plane in lotteries?

Frank

Member
Hello Jack, I've never tried converting lotto results into Cartesian coordinates, but have often thought it would be fun to do so. If it were possible, it would make an interesting chart. I note you had a response when you posted the same question in that other forum, but must admit the reply did not make much sense to me, the example given did not stack up. What is your interest and where did you hear of this idea?
 

jack

Member
hello, Frank, the idea is to locate positionally, the number sorteiado
* Within a matrix (rows and arranged pre hills) in sectors
* To see little drawings within a matrix of lottery (any lottery)
In rows and columns, as in a closed electrical circuit, or in fields galois (evariste)
Well, then you could see both the largest and best piramedes of your hand
* Frank, open your left hand, it have two triangles, a bigger and better one
* And a third in the middle, as if he could use it in the lottery? Handle three tamanahos
* Piramedes of synchronized probabilistically itself
Perhaps the three piramedes both hands can tell us something about probabilities
The Cartesian plane can unite a row and column, and see intervals
Bringing in line pairs
 

Frank

Member
Sounds like a figment of someone's imagination to me. Pyramids? From two dimensions?
Can you explain to me how a lottery result 13, 17, 23, 36, 37,42 can be represented in two dimensions in the Cartesian plane. Over 1000 other such results also need to represented simultaneously. Explain how pairs are visible in the final result. :confused:
 

jack

Member
Hello, frank, and easy example of a 49/6 lottery
Divide into 4 groups
12,12,12,13 groups = 4
Each group represented by a letter, 12 letters are
The 12 letters are equal in 4 group has group has 13
* No problem
* Example = 13,17,23,36,7,42
Represented by 12 letters in four equal groups
* Example seo The number 13 is in the other three groups did not repeat the
If G is 17 IN THE OTHER THREE GROUPS NOT MARK G (same position)
* And so with the other letters, in 85% it does not repeat the same position
 

Frank

Member
But this has nothing to do with Cartesian coordinates does it? Cartesian coordinates are two numbers , one in the X direction, one on the Y direction and where they meet on a chart or a grid is where you plot or reference a point. What you describe is nothing like that.
 

jack

Member
Goal is to combine both types, (system) to locate positions of reference (pivot), where the position based not repeated in four groups, from the center into 4 quadrants
 

Frank

Member
Well I'm sorry Jack, nothing you are saying make any sense to me, so think its best we leave it there. I'll devise my own interpretation based on the Cartesian plane, I think! :)
 

jack

Member
Hello, frank, objective view is predisposed draw a matrix (rows and columns) joining a point, starting from the center. as you would then use the Cartesian? in excel?
 

Frank

Member
But you've not explained at all how a lottery result 13,17,23,36,7,42 ends up in a matrix. Nor how 1000 similar ones end up in the same matrix. If you can't do that, I give up.
 

bloubul

Member
Hi Jack

Do you mind uploading a spreadsheet explaining / demostrating your statement.
I'm as confused as Frank.

www.MediaFire.com is a free service, upload and paste the link here.

BlouBul :cool:
 

jack

Member
1 2 3 4 5 POSITONS
A 01 02 03 04 05
B 06 07 08 09 10
C 11 12 13 14 15
D 16 17 18 19 20
E 21 22 23 24 25
F 26 27 28 29 30
J 31 32 33 34 35
G 36 37 38 39 40
E 41 42 43 44 45
L 46 47 48 49
13 =C3
 

jack

Member
exemplo da lottery 25/15
Sub Button1_Click()
' get data starting row 10 col a-0 (1-15)/5 whole # is group remainder is position
Dim sm(25)
rw = 10
For x = 10 To 1100: For y = 1 To 15: a = Cells(x, y): g = Int(a / 5): p = a - (g * 5): g = g + 1: If p = 0 Then p = 5: g = g - 1
sm(a) = 1
If g = 1 Then gp = "A" & p
If g = 2 Then gp = "B" & p
If g = 3 Then gp = "C" & p
If g = 4 Then gp = "D" & p
If g = 5 Then gp = "E" & p

Cells(x, y + 16) = gp

Next y:
For q = 1 To 25
If sm(q) = 1 Then Cells(x, q + 32) = 1: sm(q) = 0
Next q
Next x


End Sub
 

Icewynd

Member
So, what are the two parameters of the plane? And how do you rate the lottery numbers as plus or minus?

Perhaps the two parameters could be skips and frequency?

Good luck!
:thumb:
 

Frank

Member
Well thanks for the uploads Jack. It seems for your 15 balls drawn from 25 lottery you are are for some reason deciding that numbers 1 to 5 merit one row, numbers 6 to19 merit the next etc, (why ?) and you've cooked up cell referencing based on the rows that youve decided to put them in. Its a spreadsheet, and by definition cells are referenced by their row and column intersection. That doesn't mean spreadsheets are cartesian. All spreadshet manipulation is about accessing cells by their position in two dimensions. The image you uploaded is a proper Cartesian plot, but has nothing to do with these spreadsheets you uploaded that I can see. As Icewynd says, no negative values are generated by these spreadsheets, so they would not produce the chart you uploaded.

Anyway this is not what I had in mind at all by the title of the thread, my only interest is in generating two parameters which descibe a whole result, not individual balls. It should be possible to represent (say) 1000 results by 1000 points on a chart. The lex value could be one unique value for the result, but that is one dimensional. I need another measure of the 'flavour' of the whole result as a number to plot on the Y axis to give a point on the chart. The finished product would be a cloud of dots, probably no use for prediction but posssibly indicative of trends.
You stick to your ideas Jack, I'm looking for something else entirely. :liplick:
 

jack

Member
Hello,frank, thanks for your opinion, is the will to implement their ideas,
I think the topic as how it means to see new ideas within the matrix
* Pre arranged in rows and columns, the constellation of drawings at the crossroads of positions
* The right of the row and column, and its boundary intervals in the array delta value per row and column, locating trend within the matrix for the next sweepstakes, starting the fourth quadrant, leaving the center, is similar to the use of decades and endings (last digit on each line added the two values ​​of column and row results in an even
* Example = 43 pair trend line means 3rd and 4th column, leaving the center, or dead center of the two options in the matrix
seeking patterns of repetitions and delays in
 

jack

Member
Hello ice, and frank, you can create a macro with the following objective
* See the adjacent per row and column, the lottery 49/6, where it has few
* Numbers drawn (6) can see each number four by two adjacent line
* And by two columns, 6x4 = 24 over the last lottery we can eliminate 30 numbers
* So to filter the remaining 19 lottery 49/6, and also join the delta values
* Forming a pair
 

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