# Two questions for Lotto tutor!

#### Dennis Bassboss

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Do you know if a reference exist on how the lottery system generates quick picks? I'm talking more on the program aspect of it!
Or any information available for it would be welcome!
And do you know if someone created wheels for the new 20 picks Banco game that is now played in Québec?
Thanks!

#### SillyAlien

##### Member
Dennis,

To answer part ii) of your question, LottoPro, has 8 Banco wheels:

20 numbers 008 tickets 8/14 guarantee
20 numbers 032 tickets 9/14
20 " 181 " 10/14
25 " 023 " 7/14
25 " 083 " 8/14
25 " 405 " 9/14
30 " 030 " 6/14
30 " 102 " 7/14

Cheers

#### Dennis Bassboss

##### Member
Originally posted by SillyAlien:
Dennis,

To answer part ii) of your question, LottoPro, has 8 Banco wheels:

20 numbers 008 tickets 8/14 guarantee
20 numbers 032 tickets 9/14
20 " 181 " 10/14
25 " 023 " 7/14
25 " 083 " 8/14
25 " 405 " 9/14
30 " 030 " 6/14
30 " 102 " 7/14

Cheers

Thanks but this is not what I am looking for
the new banco game is a 20 pick game at five bucks for each pick and you can't play less than 20 numbers on your ticket. It is not like the 10 pick game keno were you can pick
either 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2 numbers. So the new game has been on for two months now in Québec
and the big payout for that game is 1 million
if you can gess either 15-16-17-18-19-20 numbers from the twenty drawed!
Thanks anyway!

#### SillyAlien

##### Member
Okay, gotcha, I'll look around.

#### Dennis Bassboss

##### Member
In order to avoid any misunderstanding the new games is a 20 numbers pick game out of 70
numbers.The payouts are as follows
15 à 20/20 1 000 000,00 \$
14/20 10 000,00 \$
13/20 1 000,00 \$
12/20 500,00 \$
11/20 50,00 \$
10/20 20,00 \$
9/20 10,00 \$
8/20 5,00 \$
3/20 5,00 \$
2/20 10,00 \$
1/20 20,00 \$
0/20 500,00 \$

#### SillyAlien

##### Member
The odds there are past a TRILLION!!!

#### Dennis Bassboss

##### Member
Originally posted by SillyAlien:
The odds there are past a TRILLION!!!

The odds are as follows
15 at 20/20 ---- 1/4,763.044
14/20 ---- 1/262,832
13/20 ---- 1/20,907
12/20 ---- 1/2,394
11/20 ---- 1/385
10/20 ---- 1/85
9/20 ---- 1/26
8/20 ---- 1/11
3/20 ---- 1/14
2/20 ---- 1/47
1/20 ---- 1/266
0/20 ---- 1/3,435
There are the real odds of winning at this lottery!

[This message has been edited by Dennis Bassboss (edited June 20, 2001).]

#### SillyAlien

##### Member
Okay, okay ..... so I lied a little [LOL]

#### Lotto Tutor

Hi Dennis,

I do not know how quick picks are generated but one of the lottery corporations might provide that info .. if they are willing to share their random number generation secrets

Atlantic Lottery Corporation
P.O. Box 5500
770 St. George Blvd.
Moncton, New Brunswick
E1C 8W6
Moncton, NB (506)867-5858; Halifax, NS
(902)468-1072; St. John's, NF (709)754-2992

Loto-Quebec
500, Sherbrooke West
Montreal, Quebec
H3A 3G6

Ontario Lottery Corporation
Consumer Affairs
70 Foster Drive, Suite 800
Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
P6A 6V2
(705) 946-6470
TDD: 1-800-563-5357

WCLC Prize Payout
900 - 125 Garry Street
Winnipeg, Manitoba
R3C 4J1

British Columbia Lottery Corporation
10760 Shellbridge Way
Richmond, B.C.
V6X 3H1
(250)828-5500 or (604)273-5686

I do not know of any 20 out of 70 wheels. ouch! what odds
Maybe a keno wheel that fits could be found in the wheels section of www.lotterydirectory.com ?
Just as a wild thought, You might be able to develop something with the Cover Master wheel builder (avialable for free)at: http://www.sianotts.demon.co.uk/
It will allow a pool of 70 numbers but only up to 7 picks. Maybe there is something to be found by using a pool of 70 with 4 wheels of 5 numbers each?

#### Dennis Bassboss

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Thanks to you Lotto Tutor....I'm working on it! And I might come up with a wheel for this new lottery unheard of...

P.S. The odds of winning are not as bad as they seem, the lower prizes are within the reach ! But what is hard to do is to make a cheap wheel that you can play regularly!