Reducing filtered combinations help required

[SHT]

Can any forum users help me with the following three questions:

1) I have a group of 30 numbers which I wish to specify the min and maximum number that can appear in every combination. Unfortunately the software that I have access to, limits the Zone sets to 20 numbers.

Since the group slightly varies from draw to draw what is the simplest & easiest way of achieving this? Is there any free software that does this, or possibly via an excel macro? (N.B. this not for prize matching and I'm not yet familiar with offset and overlap concepts).


2) I wish to eliminate 10 specific sum values in my generated combinations, and at the moment I'm using excel to do this. Does anyone know of any freeware that can achieve this?
For curiosity value what shareware programs can also do this.


3) I've determined the profile of my 6/49 lotto and used these unique parameters as filters to generate 90,000 combinations, (6if6 if all parameters meet, including the above criteria). Back testing and dry paper runs give good jackpot results so far. I'm stuck on the next stage how to reduce the 90,000 combinations to approximately 5,000 or less. So far reading old posts and online articles hasn't clarified my next step. I'm definitely certain that at this stage I do not want to consider Optimizing/Wheeling . Though I may have to consider "economic filters" i.e. Even/odd Sums, Root Sums.

Any suggestions to reducing the number of generated combinations?? Any help and advice humbly appreciated. TIA

SHTH

 

[Karnac]

Can any forum users help me with the following three questions:

1) I have a group of 30 numbers which I wish to specify the min and maximum number that can appear in every combination. Unfortunately the software that I have access to, limits the Zone sets to 20 numbers.

Since the group slightly varies from draw to draw what is the simplest & easiest way of achieving this? Is there any free software that does this, or possibly via an excel macro? (N.B. this not for prize matching and I'm not yet familiar with offset and overlap concepts).


2) I wish to eliminate 10 specific sum values in my generated combinations, and at the moment I'm using excel to do this. Does anyone know of any freeware that can achieve this?
For curiosity value what shareware programs can also do this.


3) I've determined the profile of my 6/49 lotto and used these unique parameters as filters to generate 90,000 combinations, (6if6 if all parameters meet, including the above criteria). Back testing and dry paper runs give good jackpot results so far. I'm stuck on the next stage how to reduce the 90,000 combinations to approximately 5,000 or less. So far reading old posts and online articles hasn't clarified my next step. I'm definitely certain that at this stage I do not want to consider Optimizing/Wheeling . Though I may have to consider "economic filters" i.e. Even/odd Sums, Root Sums.

Any suggestions to reducing the number of generated combinations?? Any help and advice humbly appreciated. TIA

SHTH

Hi SHT

If you haven't already done so , check out LS 2004.....it's free and has loads of filters,etc.

http://home.tiscali.nl/lsystems/

 

[SHT]

Thanks karnac, I already have Lsystem2004 (though I do not use it). You are right it has many useful filters. But I haven't been able to determine if it can provide solutions to my first two questions.

If the worse comes to worse i'll continue to use Excel formulae.

SHTH

 

[charles2]

I Think Lotto Hat, it's not freeware though, can do full wheels and filtered wheels, i just looked at a full 30 wheel for 649 and it's 593775 combo's and you further filter it down with sums even width of line etc etc

 

[lottoarchitect]

Can any forum users help me with the following three questions:

1) I have a group of 30 numbers which I wish to specify the min and maximum number that can appear in every combination. Unfortunately the software that I have access to, limits the Zone sets to 20 numbers.

Since the group slightly varies from draw to draw what is the simplest & easiest way of achieving this? Is there any free software that does this, or possibly via an excel macro? (N.B. this not for prize matching and I'm not yet familiar with offset and overlap concepts).


2) I wish to eliminate 10 specific sum values in my generated combinations, and at the moment I'm using excel to do this. Does anyone know of any freeware that can achieve this?
For curiosity value what shareware programs can also do this.


3) I've determined the profile of my 6/49 lotto and used these unique parameters as filters to generate 90,000 combinations, (6if6 if all parameters meet, including the above criteria). Back testing and dry paper runs give good jackpot results so far. I'm stuck on the next stage how to reduce the 90,000 combinations to approximately 5,000 or less. So far reading old posts and online articles hasn't clarified my next step. I'm definitely certain that at this stage I do not want to consider Optimizing/Wheeling . Though I may have to consider "economic filters" i.e. Even/odd Sums, Root Sums.

Any suggestions to reducing the number of generated combinations?? Any help and advice humbly appreciated. TIA

SHTH

SHT, Lotto Architect designed to easily handle all these you mention above.

1) If you mean for example that you want each ticket to be like A x x x x B where you define the possible numbers of A & B, this is called a number position filter and included in the program. Also, any other formation is possible to setup, besides the 1st and last number. If you mean something else, please explain it.

2) The program also offers the ability to exclude/include any particular sum. This is also true for any filter available. If you wish to setup ranges, this is available too, but I find ranges, although easy to use, rather restrictive.

3) This is exactly the power of the program

cheers
lottoarchitect

 

[SHT]

Thanks Charles

This is not what I require. I don’t what to wheel 30 numbers and then apply filters.

Basically if you take any lottery software or combinations generator for instance ldir wheelgen you always have the filter option of Zone Sets where you can list a group up to 20 numbers and then specify the max and minimum number that can appear in any generated combination. All I wish to do is increase this group to 30 numbers. Either using freeware or an Excel macro.

SHTH

 

[SHT]

Thanks Lottoarchitect,

I heard nothing but praise for your software. Your point two was useful to know. You made some great suggestions but only applicable for those who are willing to purchase your software.

Basically if you take any lottery software or combinations generator for instance ldir wheelgen you always have the filter option of Zone Sets where you can list a group up to 20 numbers and then specify the max and minimum number that can appear in any generated combination. All I wish to do is increase this group to 30 numbers.

Out of curiosity does your shareware program achieve this objective?

TIA
SHTH

 

[lottoarchitect]

SHT,
if every generated ticket will contain the same minimum number and the same maximum number, as I described it above A x x x x B, where A & B are constant numbers from your set of 30, then there are 2 ways I can think of to achieve the above. Obviously, if the A & B are at minimum/maximum of your set of numbers, then all combinations will pass through anyway. The initial ticket listing can be a full wheel of your 30 or more numbers or your own set of tickets. I assume here that the initial ticket listing is an arbitrary one, which you wish to filter according to your preference.

1) Initial ticket listing + 3 number groups (2 for the A & B, 1 for the in-between numbers)
2) Initial ticket listing + 2 positional filters (on 1st/last number)

The output will contain only tickets that have the A & B and all other numbers will be between them.

For better tuning, instead of setting a constant minimum/maximum, you might decide to set a range (e.g. the 3-5 lowest/upper numbers) to be allowed only once. For example, you might set A to get values of 1-5 and B 40-45, so your tickets will be filtered according to 1-5 x x x x 40-45 where no in-between x number will be either of 1-5/40-45. Other setups are possible too. Positional filter or number groups can achieve this as well.

Finally, if you mean only accepting any ticket of the formation A x x x x B, where you set the bounds of A & B as above (either single value or a range) and also accept any other ticket that has Y x x x x Z where Y>=A and Z<=B, this is also possible with combination of the above + a positional filter/number group, where instead of restricting the 1st/last number only, we restrict the in-between values. Here, number groups are better as we need to setup only one instead of 3-4 positional filters (as many required to cover the in-between values).

Still, if I undertood wrong what you mean, please explain it better with an example.

cheers

 

[SHT]

Thanks Lottoarchitect,

I appreciate your comprehensive & detailed suggestions, hopefully this will be of use to some forum users.

Before I respond to your post, can I assume that lottoarchitect limits its 'zone groups' to 20 numbers????

I took time to study your post very carefully. I mulled it over and I think it would not achieve my objective or my brain would probably fry in the process of trying to calculate all possible "setups" & positional arrangements.

SHT,
if every generated ticket will contain the same minimum number and the same maximum number, as I described it above A x x x x B, where A & B are constant numbers from your set of 30, then there are 2 ways I can think of to achieve the above. Obviously, if the A & B are at minimum/maximum of your set of numbers, then all combinations will pass through anyway. The initial ticket listing can be a full wheel of your 30 or more numbers or your own set of tickets. I assume here that the initial ticket listing is an arbitrary one, which you wish to filter according to your preference.

1) Initial ticket listing + 3 number groups (2 for the A & B, 1 for the in-between numbers)
2) Initial ticket listing + 2 positional filters (on 1st/last number)

The output will contain only tickets that have the A & B and all other numbers will be between them....

The problem is that A & B would come from numbers not included in the zone set 30. Even if I was to do as suggested and add positional filters to A&B for the remaining 19 numbers. I don't think this is viable. The problem is that the situation gets very complicated very fast, because of the use of numerous other zone set specifications for filtering at the same time. And these may or may not be subsets or overlapping sets. For example…


(Total numbers =30) ____Zone group A : 1 2 3 4 5…..30 ________min 2 max 3

(=6) _________________Zone group B : 14 23 36 40 41 48______min 0 max 1
(=7) _________________Zone group C: 31 32 34 38 41 47 48____min max1
(=12)________________ Zone group etc etc.

All freeware generators or lottery software can easily handle all my requests apart from a zone group consisting of 30 no's.

At the moment I import my filtered combinations into Excel. I use formulae to highlight all 30 numbers from 'zone group A' in these combinations. Then I eliminate all those lines that do not have min 2 max 3 numbers from 'zone group A'. It is very easy to do in excel, the only problem is handling approx. 850,000 combinations (168 files) which is very daunting and cumbersome to say the least. And since (i) the actual numbers, (ii) min/max and (iii) size for 'zone set A' changes slightly, this has to be done for every draw!!!!! Hence ideally it would be better that this filtering could be done at the wheel generating stage.

To all other potential contributors to this thread. I implore you, please do not spend time finding a complex solution, to a dilemma, which is quite simple: software that allows you to enter upto 30 numbers as a 'zone set/group'. TIA.

SHTH

 

[lottoarchitect]

Thanks for your post SHT. As you know, describing something in words is more hard to understand that doing it actually. The processes are very easy to do and I described them in the broadest means, to cover everything. Obviously, if only part of these is required, fewer setups needed and easier to do. The program can handle any number of zones, and each zone can have not only 20 but up to 99 numbers (75 maximum for Pick 7). No limits exist in the program really for any task.

Also, the way you describe the Zones, this is even easier to do. No positional filters required, only number groups (number groups=zone groups). This is one of the main reasons number groups exist in the program and they initially designed to handle this exact problem you describe with zone groups. They also have additional uses besides the zone groups. You can setup as many such groups (or zones as you call them) as you like and also, you have the benefit not to set just a range e.g. min=1 max=2 for each group but any individual setting e.g. min=1 max=4 and not 3 numbers in common from that group. This flexibility has application at the "intelligent filtering" procedure as I call it but you can use it for any other process you want of course. The total numbers you can place in a group vary from 1-99 (75 max for Pick 7 games). As for A&B, they can be any numbers of course, not restricted in a particular group, but what I described in the previous post is another advanced analysis and not what you really asked for. The program does whatever you ask so far. Just try the number groups to see its power.
I also read how you do this in Excel, quite cumbersome to do. You can import this file(s) [allows appending tickets from different files] in the program (no matter how many combinations are in there, it can handle up to 2 billion combinations) and use the groups (zones) to filter them with a mouse click. Unfortunately, the demo version has the import combinations from file disabled, but you can still test it with tickets derived within the program (e.g. a full wheel). If you want precise instructions of how to achieve what you want, please ask me. Also, the whole process takes no more than 3 seconds to derive the outcome.

 

[SHT]

Lottoarchitect

Thank you for taking the time and effort to answer my posts. It seems your program can achieve my objectives.

Finally can I say, if I do consider purchasing lottery software your program is at the top of my List. As I stated in a previous post, from reading archives, I know you come highly recommended as a number crunchers' paradise.

SHTH