Pick 3 and Pick 4 Players...

[Teufellj]

Every game has a playing field, right? Ever wonder just "How?" a few of us set up an area to get the base numbers that will be kneaded into a game playing consistancy? You wouldn't be reading this post if you were not wanting to know. I havn't found any website or books for that matter, that will tell a new/old player what else can be done. Don't feel hoplessly lost when you run out of ideas for that pick 3 or pick 4 game. Try this approach...
1_ Make a rundown for the day of the week that you feel will satisfy this weeks winning number sets.
A rundown is nothing more than taking a set of three (3) numbers)for pick 3 and four(4)numbers for pick 4 eg.,

123
012
901
890
789
678
567
456
345
234
123>>discard this set, not usable!
I should have three or more matched or unmatched sets from this rundown for the week that I am working on. If there are two games per day usually only one of the rundowns in the same day will have both
game winners. I will use two Saturdays back for starters. When this approach fails, I will search back further the past Saturdays until I get a reasonable rundown of at least three or more winners in that rundown. If there are a few doubles in this weeks plays I only have to look for that Saturday with doubles. Saves a whole lot of time and frustration.
There are many different ways to setup a playing field of numbers and this is just one of them! If just the one day rundown is used for the week, I will then take my last winning digits and use them for a base set to do a workout ---meaning that eg., if the winner was 1, 2, 3...then I would make note of these digits and then make any possible sets from the rundown matching just these numbers. There won't be that many sets, maybe thirty, at the outside or a few more or less but in that range.

Filtering is a technique for removing unusable numbers; to bother with this piece of work is just that! In all of my time spent working with numbers---All digits are significant if you have the understanding of what to do with them; if you do not have this knowledge---leave them alone! If I filter the wrong numbers then I have shafted myself thru my own ignorance!
Back to the program---Some areas or countrys or states have Pick 3 type games---seven days per week---Ontario and Western Canada come to mind---For a rundown, I will use the---Sunday as my rundown base---two weeks back. In all cases for me, my cutoff day of the week never exceeds six or seven days, my rundown base can be up to six or more months; then I reprogram for the next weeks workouts! A day to day rundown base is a waste. DON'T!

All my best to you players,

Teufellj...

 

[Dylan]

Why do you always use a large font size in your posts ?
It is extremely difficult and near impossible to read.

 

[blitzed]

Why do you always use a large font size in your posts ?
It is extremely difficult and near impossible to read.

yeah, super gigantor font blows me away too heh!

Anyway, my system is tracking number distribution, and filtering out the absolute hottest numbers.

Playing probabilities works for me. Yesterday I would have nailed hte pick3, but I didn't have time to play my picks! However, I made up for it tonight, as my system nailed the draw on the head again!

blitzed all the way to the bank!

 

[Teufellj]

Re: Complaint...Dylan...File 13!

Is this better for you? Since in the past 18 years of posting on various forums, business boards and transcribing decryption codes for several federal offices in the U.S.A., this is the first time that I have heard this complaint! Now, I know that you didn't ask but I'll help you along---I am nearly blind, not legally blind but in fact I'm told that within a year there will be nothing. I have macular-degeneration disease. I take injections into my eyeballs to slow the destructive forces.
I believe that it would be interesting to "see" Braille come up on your screen the way that it is begun with all of the nice little dots and then decipher what each pip arrangement means before a translation could begin.
In conclusion, this old man does not look for sympathy; does not want any. I wasn't aware that there has been a problem with font script and I am glad to know that folks do take notice. What would you suggest for font and size?

Best regards,

Teufellj...

 

[Teufellj]

I hear you on the probabilities, blitzed, used to be when a teacher mentioned that word it meant that I was probably gonna get homework; probably gonna flunk etc., ad nasium; then I began to understand probability and statistics in the general meaning. Finally, there came the lottory and its peculiar math. Strange as it seems , I had a better understanding of what math was all about and how the various phases of math can be bent to fit some of the illogic of the lottoies.

Teufellj...

 

[Teufellj]

Incorporating rather than Filtering...

In one of my posts I mentioned, "Leave filtering alone," and my thoughts still stand on that issue. However, there is a way to incorporate rather than filter. Many of us see a pattern that will appear that involves double digits. If you were to see in a triple column a lot of non-paired sets of three digits then along came a doubler then a mixed nonrelated threesome, what type of setup would a person use for the next play? I wouldn't know wether the next winner would be a double (and it could be) or just an ordinary mixed, non-mixed set of digits. I do three workups as a part of my planning. The first one involves what I have already described in an earlier post---I use eight to twelve past wins for a basic setup; next, a basic rundown of the past eight to twelve---Saturdays Only, starting two weeks or further back, then the doubles! When comparing just these three columned setups, I have found the next days winner because there will be a match in at least two of the three programs. Finally, a cross reference can be extrapolated thru probabilities as meantioned by blitzed in his last post. What I have described sounds very complicated but it's not! I remove the oldest winning set and add the newest per play day, very simple! When a double shows its ugly face, I pull up my doubles rundown and do a comparison. Next thing to do is play the game!

Until next go round,

Teufellj...

 

[blitzed]

Is this better for you? I am nearly blind, not legally blind but in fact I'm told that within a year there will be nothing. I have macular-degeneration disease.
Teufellj...

Ah! so that explains it...yeah, I've been legally blind in my left eye since age 22, so over 15 years now...and my vision has deteriorated since then, bad corneas...but my vision is well enough for what I need it for, so no complaints. Anyway, we'll probaby be able to get cyborg eyes soon I anyway I bet

Well, I adjusted the scrollwheel on my mouse to scroll through your big text messages easier. So post as big as you like

Do you use the Window magnifier tool? or use any speech browser extensions? I use Firefox browser, since I can fully customize the color & font settings...I force it to fairly large amber text on black background so I can even read latenight with low light, or no light at all.

Whenever I view a webpage, it is displayed with my amber text and minimum font size of 16...you could probably do a similar setup, and bump your minimal font size accordingly.

cheers!
blitzed

 

[blitzed]

I hear you on the probabilities, blitzed, used to be when a teacher mentioned that word it meant that I was probably gonna get homework; probably gonna flunk etc., ad nasium; then I began to understand probability and statistics in the general meaning. Finally, there came the lottory and its peculiar math. Strange as it seems , I had a better understanding of what math was all about and how the various phases of math can be bent to fit some of the illogic of the lottoies.

Teufellj...

quite right, I now have a great appreciation for mathmatics...I dive into fractals, and notice fractal patterns in nature much of the day. I also do programming to figure out lottery probabilities and devise systems to try to exploit the most enticing probabilities that I find.

At work much of what I do is to calculate web statistics and track trends, make projections to estimate where sales levels should be based upon past performance, etc. One way or another, I have numbers runnin through my head much of the day & night heh!

It is ashame really that I seriously shrugged off math so much in school.

blitzed

 

[blitzed]

In one of my posts I mentioned, "Leave filtering alone," and my thoughts still stand on that issue. However, there is a way to incorporate rather than filter. Many of us see a pattern that will appear that involves double digits. If you were to see in a triple column a lot of non-paired sets of three digits then along came a doubler then a mixed nonrelated threesome, what type of setup would a person use for the next play? I wouldn't know wether the next winner would be a double (and it could be) or just an ordinary mixed, non-mixed set of digits. I do three workups as a part of my planning. The first one involves what I have already described in an earlier post---I use eight to twelve past wins for a basic setup; next, a basic rundown of the past eight to twelve---Saturdays Only, starting two weeks or further back, then the doubles! When comparing just these three columned setups, I have found the next days winner because there will be a match in at least two of the three programs. Finally, a cross reference can be extrapolated thru probabilities as meantioned by blitzed in his last post. What I have described sounds very complicated but it's not! I remove the oldest winning set and add the newest per play day, very simple! When a double shows its ugly face, I pull up my doubles rundown and do a comparison. Next thing to do is play the game!

Until next go round,

Teufellj...

Doubles can be tricky...as I've mentioned, when they do finally appear...they tend to cluster...so if doubles hit, then I'll expect them to pounce again immediately, or skip once then hit again. Don't be fooled into thinking that you immediately have "smooth sailing" through unmatched right after doubles have "finally" hit. Reviewin past history helps to try to gauge the behavior of doubles.

Anyway, my main pick3 system that I've come up with is based upon the last 13 draws. I workout the number distribution for each position, tally how many times each digit has been drawn in each position. Then my initial playfield is comprised of any digits which were never drawn, or drawn only once by position.

I've calculated various probabilities...and I've determined that at about 13 draws, 61% of the digits come from the ZERO or ONE draw group.

To narrow down the playfield further, I check my number distribution chart, then note how many draws each digit in the group has been out. Then I make a column of all the triples...then for each position where the associated digit has been drawn twice or more already, I "x" it out of play. Eventually I end up with my full playfield chart..I'll just make one up to demonstrate. It makes it very easy to visualize my strongest numbers by position,..if I shoot for doubles, 2,5,7 & 9 are good bets, 6&8 I'd drop out of play, only 5,7,9 to worry about in 3rd position, 2,4,5 in the 1st, etc.
xxx
x1x
22x
x3x
4xx
5x5
xxx
x77
xxx
x99

To take it a step further, check how long each digit by position has been out of draw action...here is the breakdown I used to win lastnight...it isn't related to the playfield char tI just made up above.
1st position = (7z-25d) (6z-18d) (5z-14d) 8 3
2nd position = (0z-21d) (4z-18d) (5z-15d) 1 2 8
3rd position = (9z-16d) (8z-13d) 6-6d 3-2d 4-5d

(7z-25d) means that the #7 was drawn Zero times in the last 25 draws, and is long overdue falling into the 1st position. Numbers not followed by a z have only been drawn once within Xdraws. Anyway, armed with this info...I just stagger varying degrees of overdue digits from each position to make a full pick...like the most overdue pick would have been 709, and for doubles 559 leaps out, and it happened to hit tonight. could have went for 606 to mix a bigger range of varying degrees since 6 has only hit once in 13 draws, but been out for 6 draws. Anyway, it is not as likely that a winning pick will be comprised of only the absolute coldest numbers...that is why I stagger around if my playfield is still large.

Still tho, since 559 is now knocked out...that removes 3 overdue numbers from my playfield. So next draw I'd probably play 708,748,608,648,606 (just in case doubles try to fool me next draw hah!) nice, just a 5pick ticket , no other numbers I want to play.

blitzed

 

[Teufellj]

Blitzed...RE:

Hi guy,
your trained thoughts are very interesting. Yes, the doubles do tend to cluster and then play cat and mouse. That's one reason that I found a way to determine what the double would be and how to arrive at that conclusion. As it turns out, the unmixed non-double can also show for the evening game and or the midday game if there are two different games in a day. For whatever reason, twelve sets gives the satisfactory relationship that Ohio needs for the winning setup.
I use the Windows magnifier which does work up to a point. For bad times which isn't often---I use a night hunters scope-green effect almost halo and this lets me see black images that don't move. If I jerk just a little it washes the vision and I have to wait a piece for resetting to reoccur---a real pain at times but better than nothing when I have a hurry on to accomplish a thing or two. Trying to not be touchy about my physical problem is an ongoing occurance. Strange but I don't get bothered by physical appearances, yet, I come on strong about this eyesight thing. Had you read what I had originally printed and then removed...just for certain, I do laugh at me quite often!
Blitzed, have you ever noticed, that all numbers that are in vertical columns seem to have originated going to the left---in other words do a Chinese thing and travel from right to left rather than left to right? I have worked with dyslexic setups for years and still I get the impression of reversed order.

Have a good one,

Teufellj...

 

[blitzed]

Yes, the doubles do tend to cluster and then play cat and mouse. That's one reason that I found a way to determine what the double would be and how to arrive at that conclusion. As it turns out, the unmixed non-double can also show for the evening game and or the midday game if there are two different games in a day. For whatever reason, twelve sets gives the satisfactory relationship that Ohio needs for the winning setup.

You are way ahead of me...I don't even track the midday game, perhaps I should start to...ever try pooling draws from both as if it was one game?

I use the Windows magnifier which does work up to a point. For bad times which isn't often---I use a night hunters scope-green effect almost halo and this lets me see black images that don't move.

That is good, do you use a cusotm windows theme or the extra large high contrast one? do you use 800x600 screen resolution? tha tmight be best to make everything appear larger.

Blitzed, have you ever noticed, that all numbers that are in vertical columns seem to have originated going to the left---in other words do a Chinese thing and travel from right to left rather than left to right? I have worked with dyslexic setups for years and still I get the impression of reversed order.

Hmmm, never noticed that, interesting! have you ever tried making picks using lines from past draw data? was strange lastnight finding my 559 hit in a diagonal after I had won heh!

cheers!
blitzed

 

[Teufellj]

RE: blitzed...

In reverse order of comments---I only use Saturdays for the ago's...Once had a years worth of daily rundowns for both Midday and Evening games.I found that the same information could be had thru the Saturday rundowns and now the doublers when I need them.
I use just the regular magnifier---nothing fancy---I also have one of those reader sheets that is used for books or manuscripts, this I placed on my script holder and inch it in so that I get fairly good readability; I've already mentioned my night sight scope.
When things get so dim, I abort all together reading. This is where I turn on my brain, so to speak.
Tracking a midday and evening give two distinct advantages...#1 is...whatever the winner is, I take that set as a starter for the next evening game program because, chances are good that those digits will be used and the crisscross from the opposite game from that day are used as the other basic three singles to start.
Don't know about you but, I am not sure that I want "cyborg eyes," I keep picturing some dude "moon walking" or someone else doing some fantastical moves that make my body ache just a thinking about it. What if we had to do some morbid eye exercises to keep the biomechanical orbs lubricated that would in turn give us the runs or some such thing?!

Later,

Teufellj...

 

[blitzed]

Hi Hmmm, guess my late night reply didn't get posted doh!


do you know the specifics about how your pick3 game is ran? I seem to recall reading that for my CA Daily 3, they alternate between two computers, and they alternate between a random routine and an algorithm...also there is a 3rd spare machine in case there is a glitch with one of the others.

oh well. yeah, well if not cyborg eyes, what about somethin less intrusive such as the vision visor thing that Jordi LaForge wore in the Star Trek Next Generation series?

later,
blitzed

 

[Teufellj]

We have a ping=pong thing that sounds like a vacuum sweeper and the balls are "blown" out the top. Couldn't say how many backups are involved. Do believe that these same machines are used for Pick 4 and the Buckeye 5, judging by the trends towards carrying the same number mutations that are also found in the Pick 4 and five games. O have seen on the telly one evening that the machine in play froze and a technician went out and banged the unit a solid whack to get the sucker to work!
Be my luck to wear something bineural, get a glitch or have a central program change channels or like welders shields===everything would go dark as soon as the arc has cooled off! OUCH!

Teufellj...

 

[Dylan]

The thought of total blindess sends shivers down my spine. Can't eye surgery help?

 

[wazzappenning]

ok so i may be good at math

ok so i may be good at math, but you guys still have me beat( although what i did learn at school was that you only need it till the test) so im great ata math but a month later i will almost completely forget everything unless i routinely use it

so i still have trouble following the method you guys use but it also seems to me that if i play all possible combinations from your system it costs a lot and no guarantee of a straight. if i play partial combinations i pay a lot and get a box. so im having trouble seeing the advantage....i play for straight. now then if i could find ONE combo to play that won some or most of the time on a box i would play 10 or 100 dollars a day. my combinations have been based on a digit plus or minus 2. when i first started with the pick 3 trends i was matching numbers all over the place(using ,1st digit is three draws ago match plus or minus 2 etc.) that worked for a couple of weeks and had i played that theory using10 000dollars i would have hit an exact match for the staight so 5 million dollars.(not that anyone should be crazy enough to spend 10 grand(my life savings)im only33, but still.
but as i constantly see, the trends keep changing and so your system has to keep changing.
anyway thats my brainiac moment of the day

 

[Teufellj]

Howdy Dylan, there's an old saying that I've heard over the years---"Who can see better, the person that has no eye-sight or the person who has turned off his intellect but has perfectly good eyesight?" I have muddled my way thru life screwing up more off than on and yet I have survived! I am not perfect but there is only me. The scientists of the world are just beginning to make inroads and breakthrus. There are surgical procedures to help correct and in some cases totally repair defective eyesight. However, most cases of various sight problems have not been addressed! In some of our posts, you will have read what we are doing on our own to combat these deficiencies. They will work for a time and then we will have to find something else. The injections that I receive are a type of experimental surgery but at least someone is trying to be of help. Perhaps in a few years someone will find the cure or go by an alternate route and say find a way to regrow various body parts. Wouldn't it be a gas to go to your local vending machine, pull a handle and out pops what you are in need of? I've always enjoyed "Buck Rogers" (the original with Larry Buster Crabb...)
Dylan, there's nothing to be afraid of. It's just a different approach added to the story of our lives.

Teufellj...

 

[blitzed]

...seems to me that if i play all possible combinations from your system it costs a lot and no guarantee of a straight...
...but as i constantly see, the trends keep changing and so your system has to keep changing.
anyway thats my brainiac moment of the day

Hey waz, yup my system doesn't guarantee a straight, it is simply a way to display the most probable straights & boxes. It wasn't meant for playin all its combos. I typically just play 1 to 3 tickets of picks.

The 3x3 matrix with the top 3 coldest digits from each of the 3 positions sometimes has all 3 of the digits from the next draw, or usually 2 of them, then the 3rd as one fo the warmer digits just on the edge. when there are many duplicates, it helps narrow the number fielld for chasin boxes.

later,
blitzed

 

[blitzed]

... if i play all possible combinations from your system it costs a lot and no guarantee of a straight.
...as i constantly see, the trends keep changing and so your system has to keep changing.
anyway thats my brainiac moment of the day

my system simply helps point out the most probable straights & boxes...wasn't intended for playin all combos. I typically just play 1 or 2 tickets, sometimes 3.

anyway, sometimes the 3 numbers drawn are within my 3x3 matrix of top 3 cold numbers by each position...other times 2 with the 3rd bein a warmer digit among the few outside the 3x3.

you are right, have to make adjustments as draws unfold...also lean more towards doubles ifya suspect they might be comin, start throwin a few in at least. however, I think it' be detrimental to get too drastic. I've seen some systems put out in 3 or 4 draws, so sometimes it is good to just be patient.

later,
blitzed

 

[Teufellj]

Wazz, the math and thoughts posted are not natural in the strict sense of what we all learned in one form or another in school. The logic and illogic plus totally irrational ways of bending math rules are horrific to a math science teacher. Those academics never conceived nor probably ever used the ways that lottomath has forced players to dreamup. Herr Einstein would be happy but from the point of view of traditionalists...a coronary in the making. When working with lottomath...keep low key thinking and stay away from atomic science! Think as a child would and with BIG EXPECTATIONS...(but have a pillow ready for the letdown, just in case.)

Teufellj...