Malaysian's Lotto Games Prediction

[Adfy]

I was thinking of putting up my own Malaysian 6/42 or 6/49 Jackpot Lotto Games predictions based on Gail Howard Software and Karnac's Theory. What do you guys think?

Maybe someone would even help me beat this game... since there are a lot of great experts here to share their opinions and judgement. I am still not really good at this... actually that is what I want to say..

However... I want to tell you one news. It is not a good one neither a bad one. This one is especially for you... Karnac! By using YOUR theory... on my 6/42 game... on 04/01/2005 last few days I got 6 numbers right out of 15 total numbers! The bad news is... I was unaware of the draw since it is a special draw and did not buy any tickets!!

Oh well... there is always another day... right Karnac?

p/s: Oh yess... on 11/08/2004 it produced 7 numbers out of 15 total numbers. You rock, Karnac!

 

[Karnac]

Oh well... there is always another day... right Karnac?

Adfy, under different circumstances this would be a sad , heard it before kind of story. We've all heard these stories of close hits in the past. How players coulda, shoulda played their numbers, but they didn't.
My Theory as you see, WORKS.....and you my friend have the right attitude and outlook. It doesn't work every draw, but it does work. Play the 15 numbers each draw religiously, don't get discouraged when it doesn't hit and you're sure to pick up some coin down the road. As I said earlier, I was recently burned when all seven of the numbers came up in our CAN649. I am guilty of impatience. Lottery players are easily discouraged......they buy a software program, play it for several weeks, then discard it as ineffective.....Before long they are buying another program, urged on by glitzy websites promising untold riches, and of course the cycle continues until boredom and impatience set in. Don't stray from the course....play the theory until you win. My God, you had a 6 and 7 hitter in only 8 weeks and in a 6/42 lottery. Play the 15 numbers in a small serotic wheel (many in the wheel section) and play them every draw. One tip to remember: when you pick a games back setting to use, remember to play that same setting and don't stray from it. If you start changing settings, you'll miss the draw you're waiting for. Can you imagine how many winners Gail Howard's system would produce if they all used my theory....mind boggling. It blows her system of Smartpicks out of the water. So in closing, please do post your picks as there are many players wondering about this idea and as you have seen it's just a matter of time, and not a long time. I won't predict when, but you should see results within months.
Good Luck to ya.

 

[Adfy]

Re: Re: Malaysian's Lotto Games Prediction

Well yeah you are totally right Karnac. Too bad I was unaware of the draw, or else I would have a chance to take a shot at the Jackpot. As you said, it works but not always so guess I missed one of them. But I guess there's nothing I can do right now, except learn the lesson and try to stick to the strategy and play faithfully.

Right now the 6/42 jackpot is already amounting up to RM3.4 Million ++ and that is nearly USD1 Million (I know the amount is not so much in my country) but then again it would help me a lot to get it.

Well, I am playing for today's draw, hoping to get at least 5 out of 15. I will post my prediction numbers and wheeling later, maybe with the results. Oh yes... currently I am using Gail's Howard Wheel Six Plus Wheel... I backtested some of it and it seems that it hits only the minimum prize. I did not make a thorough test though. What do you think, Karnac? Can Wheel Six Plus hit the Maximum Prize, a Jackpot that is?

I think this is the only program I will bought. Since it shows real works, and using your method it DO works. But still I am adding up a few of my own selection numbers, as a backup cover in case the numbers on the system do not come out. Just a sense of wanting to feel that I can cover both sides...

I have been playing the game with GH for 3-4 times already, but the problem is that I changed the strategy all the times even though still using GH. But as you said Karnac, by changing the strategy or the parameters I did not get a consistent results. I should have stick to one system... and play it to the end. Guess I want to make the system better... but I should have tried it on paper first. Oh well... beginners mistake...

 

[Karnac]

Re: Re: Re: Malaysian's Lotto Games Prediction

Well yeah you are totally right Karnac. Too bad I was unaware of the draw, or else I would have a chance to take a shot at the Jackpot. As you said, it works but not always so guess I missed one of them. But I guess there's nothing I can do right now, except learn the lesson and try to stick to the strategy and play faithfully.

Right now the 6/42 jackpot is already amounting up to RM3.4 Million ++ and that is nearly USD1 Million (I know the amount is not so much in my country) but then again it would help me a lot to get it.

Well, I am playing for today's draw, hoping to get at least 5 out of 15. I will post my prediction numbers and wheeling later, maybe with the results. Oh yes... currently I am using Gail's Howard Wheel Six Plus Wheel... I backtested some of it and it seems that it hits only the minimum prize. I did not make a thorough test though. What do you think, Karnac? Can Wheel Six Plus hit the Maximum Prize, a Jackpot that is?

I think this is the only program I will bought. Since it shows real works, and using your method it DO works. But still I am adding up a few of my own selection numbers, as a backup cover in case the numbers on the system do not come out. Just a sense of wanting to feel that I can cover both sides...

I have been playing the game with GH for 3-4 times already, but the problem is that I changed the strategy all the times even though still using GH. But as you said Karnac, by changing the strategy or the parameters I did not get a consistent results. I should have stick to one system... and play it to the end. Guess I want to make the system better... but I should have tried it on paper first. Oh well... beginners mistake...

Adfy.....I took a look at the Malaysian Toto 6/42+b which I assume you are playing. This is a long established lottery with 2000+ events so your database has had years to establish itself and its trends.

If you've read through my posts on this theory, I may have mentioned using the bottom 15 numbers on the chart 7 screen. This is what you have to do with your lottery.
Set your games back to 2 and scroll down chart 7 so only the bottom 15 on the list are visible. Use these numbers. I backtested this setting and here are the results from Draw 2027 back.
Draw Hits
2027 4
2026 4
2025 4
2024 2
2023 5
2022 1
2021 2
2020 3
2019 4
2018 3
2017 4
2016 2
2015 3
2014 3
2113 2
The 2 games back setting looks promising. 10 out of 15 draws had at least 3 hits. That's a minimum 3 number hit 66% of the draws.

If you have the budget or a couple of friends handy consider playing 15 top and 15 bottom numbers and cover both ends. Here's a small wheel courtesy of Nick Koutras. It costs C$10 to play.

LD(15,6,3,7,L=2)=5

4 6 8 10 11 14
2 4 6 9 11 13
1 3 5 7 12 15
1 3 7 8 9 12
2 5 10 13 14 15

Good Luck and keep posting.

 

[Adfy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Malaysian's Lotto Games Prediction

Adfy.....I took a look at the Malaysian Toto 6/42+b which I assume you are playing. This is a long established lottery with 2000+ events so your database has had years to establish itself and its trends.

If you've read through my posts on this theory, I may have mentioned using the bottom 15 numbers on the chart 7 screen. This is what you have to do with your lottery.
Set your games back to 2 and scroll down chart 7 so only the bottom 15 on the list are visible. Use these numbers. I backtested this setting and here are the results from Draw 2027 back.
Draw Hits
2027 4
2026 4
2025 4
2024 2
2023 5
2022 1
2021 2
2020 3
2019 4
2018 3
2017 4
2016 2
2015 3
2014 3
2113 2
The 2 games back setting looks promising. 10 out of 15 draws had at least 3 hits. That's a minimum 3 number hit 66% of the draws.

If you have the budget or a couple of friends handy consider playing 15 top and 15 bottom numbers and cover both ends. Here's a small wheel courtesy of Nick Koutras. It costs C$10 to play.

LD(15,6,3,7,L=2)=5

4 6 8 10 11 14
2 4 6 9 11 13
1 3 5 7 12 15
1 3 7 8 9 12
2 5 10 13 14 15

Good Luck and keep posting.

Karnac... I did really go through more than a few times of your post on your theory... but I must have missed something... and important one too! I did not realise that what you mean, I used the upper 15 numbers on Chart 7 instead. But I minus the top 3 numbers... since I backtested 50 draws and found that not so often the upper 3 numbers are out. Oh my... now I am playing the wrong theory... silly me!


Unfortunately.... my friend, my 6/42+B or 6/49+B game do not give prizes for a 3 out of 6 hit. They only give winnings for 3+B, 4, 4+B, 5, 5+B and 6 hits. So there goes 66% hit...

I usually play on average of 18-20 tickets right now... and will start on playing on 30 max ticket with my two other friends starting next month. Each ticket costs RM1.00.

But after being highlighted by you... well I think I have to backtest again from scratch. The one that I got 6 out of 15 is by using the minus 3 top numbers with a 6 games back setting. I will be back for tomorrow's prediction using new update method from you. Hopefully I will be in time to buy the ticket...

I tried searching for a wheel which covers 4/6 or 5/6 with minimum plays, like 10 or 20. The best I found was a 4/6 in 25 Games posted by Nick Koutras. Can you point me to them or post them?

 

[Karnac]

Hi Adfy

Check out Peters' Wheels at http://www.algonet.se/~peteros/index.htm

Lot's of 4/5 and 4/6 wheels .

 

[cbh33]

is it u

hi adfy,

are u the one who strike the Jackpot............

 

[Adfy]

Re: is it u

hi adfy,

are u the one who strike the Jackpot............

Hah... IF I won the jackpot I would have already shout here with joy... announcing to the world and friends here especially for Karnac's for his spectacular theory which got me the jackpot.

But... reality is... I even am not still masterful enough to know deeply about the movement of the draws. I even feel I am a foreigner to the numbers. If you want to win cbh33.... first I feel you must be ONE with the numbers... really know from 1 to 42 and what is their individual behaviour.... what is their chaotic characteristic and even what is their random parameters... what I think I can give to you is that BE THE NUMBERS.... AND MAYBE YOU CAN BE THE JACKPOT... by the way I am still not even a speck good at yet...

Oh well... since the 6/42+B initial winning payout are only RM300,000 for Jackpot and the 6/49 Jackpot is currently at RM 2 Million ++ (and its initial payout is RM1 Million) I will devote my full strength, brains and ideas on 6/49+B.

I am going to do a thorough backtest with 6/49+B game. Hopefully in the present and the future I will get helps from you, Karnac or any other friends here to beat this game!!

cbh33, what game do you play, and what system/strategy/software you are using and how is the successful rate? Care to share among friends???

For the draw on 09/01/2005 6/42+B, I managed to get a 3of7 out of 15 numbers from Karnac's Theory. I wheeled using Covermaster 0.54 and got a 3of7 best numbers in a line (I deducted 3 lines from the 22 wheel since they seems a bit ridiculous), whereas with Wheel Six Plus I got best 2of7 full without deducting any lines. I played the Covermaster ones... but getting 3of7 from 15 numbers means I did not get any payout.

Does anyone got a link to Covermaster 5.51? I have been searching for it for a long time and seems that nobody has posted it in the web. Do you know where I can get it, Karnac? Please...

 

[Karnac]

Adfy....I use the version available here.

http://www.lotto-logix.com/wheellinks.html

 

[cbh33]

adfy,

is phone number allowed here....if can then u can call me.

 

[BushHappy]

Karnac,

I think the wheel you posted is specified as LD(15,6,3,6,L=2)=5 or LD(15,6,3,7,L=4)=5 and not LD(15,6,3,7,L=2)=5

Cheers,
Vic

 

[Adfy]

adfy,

is phone number allowed here....if can then u can call me.

I think it is better that we communicate with email. I think I can ask LT tu forward my email to you or vice versa.

LT, if you are reading this, please tell me how to communicate with you? I want to ask you to forward my email to cbh33. Or vice versa so that we can communicate via email.

Oh yes... LT I read in the forum somewhere that you have a Covermaster ver5.51. Can you share it with me... I am currently using Covermaster 5.4 or downloaded from http://www.lotto-logix.com/wheellinks.html the same one like Karnac is using. I you have a newer version that the CM54.zip that I am currently using, would you kindly share it with me?

 

[Adfy]

Adfy....I use the version available here.

http://www.lotto-logix.com/wheellinks.html

Karnac, I am currently using that version. Thanks anyway. CM54.zip, right? I tried to use the CM552.zip but it is said that the version is a broken one. Can someone please share a CM551 version if they have it? What is the different from the old ones?

 

[Karnac]

Karnac,

I think the wheel you posted is specified as LD(15,6,3,6,L=2)=5 or LD(15,6,3,7,L=4)=5 and not LD(15,6,3,7,L=2)=5

Cheers,
Vic

Hi Vic

Here's the thread posted by Nick from where it came originally.

http://www.lotto649.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3777&highlight=question

I am no expert when it comes to wheels, but I am an expert at copy and paste.

 

[Karnac]

Karnac, I am currently using that version. Thanks anyway. CM54.zip, right? I tried to use the CM552.zip but it is said that the version is a broken one. Can someone please share a CM551 version if they have it? What is the different from the old ones?

Adfy,

I have always used that version of Covermaster, and I'm happy with it.
I believe the difference is the version I use doesn't have automated optimization. It still works great. Perhaps Brad could point you right.....

 

[Brad]

re: CoverMaster

I've been using the latest version for some time (0.55.2.0) and don't know if or how much better it is from CM54.zip. My suggestion is to use the older version while waiting for the pass from John Rawson for the new one (not sure if he charges for it now). Once you have both, then you can report to us re the difference . Karnac's Lotto-logix link will point to the mail (contact author).

Another good wheeling prog (freeware) is JADE Lottery SG, could give that a try also.

Quoting JADE's author here, note that CM=CoverMaster:

JADE LSG works a little differently than CM. CM is a very good wheel generator; great for coverage and optimization. However, JADE LSG works on a different generation process that deals with probabilty distribution of draw occurrence and symmertic draw occurrence. Also, I tried to make JADE LSG versatile enough to allow a person using JADE LSG to fine tune the lines in a wheel. With CM you are fairly limited to what is produced, however, this should not take away from CM's abilities. Another thing to consider about JADE LSG is that when someone creates a wheel on their computer, the system has a high probability of being unique for the same set of parameters. Try generating a wheel with the same parameters and you'll find that the number combinations are not the same; except for full wheel generation. This means that someone else generating a wheel with the same parameters is most likely not going to have the same system as you. If for example, someone is using the same lottery analysis program and comes up with the same numbers you decide to use, your system's wheel will be different, thus enabling you to be the one with the unique combiantion for the jackpot win; should that be the case.

One thing I'll add is that if someone is concerned about the 'uniqueness' of wheels made with CM, as Jade mentions, one could use CM's Randomize feature without altering the cover. Also, since CM doesn't filter, I sometimes randomize the wheels I make to see if I can improve some lines (ie: get rid of too many odds or evens on one line) ... it doesn't always work, and can be time consuming depending on the size of the wheel.

I haven't used JADE LSG for some time (so don't ask me about it ), all I remember is that it was good, but since I was more familiar with CM at that time I chose to stick with it.

Cheers

 

[Adfy]

Adfy,

I have always used that version of Covermaster, and I'm happy with it.
I believe the difference is the version I use doesn't have automated optimization. It still works great. Perhaps Brad could point you right.....

The CM54.ZIP that I got is a prerelease version of Covermaster 0.5.4. Is that the one that you are using, Karnac?

If there are literally no difference in term of performance I guess there is no need to be hunting a newer version.

Anyway, I am testing the Covermaster to see how it compares to GH Wheel Six Plus. I did read somewhere in the forum that when you wheel, you have no chance to directly hit the Jackpot. Is that true, Karnac/Brad?

I mean, what is the use of wheeling when the chance of getting hit the Jackpot is none except collecting small prizes all the way?

 

[Adfy]

Re: re: CoverMaster

I've been using the latest version for some time (0.55.2.0) and don't know if or how much better it is from CM54.zip. My suggestion is to use the older version while waiting for the pass from John Rawson for the new one (not sure if he charges for it now). Once you have both, then you can report to us re the difference . Karnac's Lotto-logix link will point to the mail (contact author).

Another good wheeling prog (freeware) is JADE Lottery SG, could give that a try also.

Quoting JADE's author here, note that CM=CoverMaster:

JADE LSG works a little differently than CM. CM is a very good wheel generator; great for coverage and optimization. However, JADE LSG works on a different generation process that deals with probabilty distribution of draw occurrence and symmertic draw occurrence. Also, I tried to make JADE LSG versatile enough to allow a person using JADE LSG to fine tune the lines in a wheel. With CM you are fairly limited to what is produced, however, this should not take away from CM's abilities. Another thing to consider about JADE LSG is that when someone creates a wheel on their computer, the system has a high probability of being unique for the same set of parameters. Try generating a wheel with the same parameters and you'll find that the number combinations are not the same; except for full wheel generation. This means that someone else generating a wheel with the same parameters is most likely not going to have the same system as you. If for example, someone is using the same lottery analysis program and comes up with the same numbers you decide to use, your system's wheel will be different, thus enabling you to be the one with the unique combiantion for the jackpot win; should that be the case.

One thing I'll add is that if someone is concerned about the 'uniqueness' of wheels made with CM, as Jade mentions, one could use CM's Randomize feature without altering the cover. Also, since CM doesn't filter, I sometimes randomize the wheels I make to see if I can improve some lines (ie: get rid of too many odds or evens on one line) ... it doesn't always work, and can be time consuming depending on the size of the wheel.

I haven't used JADE LSG for some time (so don't ask me about it ), all I remember is that it was good, but since I was more familiar with CM at that time I chose to stick with it.

Cheers

Hiya Brad...

For your info... I have already used Jade and seems like the "Symmetrical Concept" although did not fully understand it. But then again, I read somewhere in the forum that says Jade is an unbalance system. Here is the link :-

http://www.lotto649.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=779&highlight=jade

Please do check it out since I am confused, which is true. I stopped using Jade immediately after reading the post.

I do realise that Covermaster generate the wheel differently everytime... but still with what I have tested Covermaster is a bit better than GH Wheel Six Plus. This statement stays until I find something less better produced by Covermaster and something better are hit by GH Wheel Six Plus.

I am going to play 6/42 this Wednesday. The payout has been reduced to a RM300,000. That is not more than USD100,000. Maybe I can see better future from tomorrow...

 

[Brad]

Hmmm ... the wheels are a'turning ...

Well Adfy, you can wheel till your hubcaps fall off but if you don't pick the right numbers to populate your wheels with you ain't gettin nothin'

I've read a good analogy lately that wheeling is like gearing, a reduction ... we know how to build the transmission but we're still trying to perfect the prediction engine. I'm sure the gear-heads among us will have no problems relating to that, self included

Then there are some who will argue that wheels are useless

 

[Brad]

Re: Re: re: CoverMaster

Hiya Brad...

For your info... I have already used Jade and seems like the "Symmetrical Concept" although did not fully understand it. But then again, I read somewhere in the forum that says Jade is an unbalance system. Here is the link :-

http://www.lotto649.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=779&highlight=jade

Please do check it out since I am confused, which is true. I stopped using Jade immediately after reading the post. <<<snip>>>

I vaguely remember having that discussion with ComboManiac but you'd have to ask him for details. I think that he had some concerns about the Jade's stated cover being incorrect but when I compared its reports with CM's all was ok. Like I said, it's been a long while since I used it.