heres my plan ozzie lotto

savagegoose

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i have been wondering how to pick a wheel and play some numbers. and finally decided on this plan.

its a 24 game wheel in australian pools. a 6/38 game.

it uses 3 banked numbers ie all entries have same 3 numbers and the other 3 i will wheel 13 numbers on a 3 if 3 of 7 wheel.

that mean i need the bankers plus 1 of the 13 to get anything or as im hoping the bankers and 3 of the wheel numbers to win the pot.

im usung lottostatisticsxl to find the most popular 3 numbers for being drawn together.

entry a game is only 55c a line so 24 will cost me $13.20 to enter

I wont be able to play it every week and think i'll save it up till the jackpot pool has built up. i'll show the numbers here when i select tyhem and try n play every week.

wish me luck.
 

savagegoose

Member
this will cost me $13.20 , its an all or nothing bash

ok the search of draw history said the same 3 numbers came up together 11
times out of last 744 draws, so I used them

I used cover master to make a 3if7 out of 13, the game has a bonus ball.

I think I'll mark my tickets and get off to the shops sometime this week.
btw wheel came up with 23 combos but u need to enter even numbers here so I
just guessed last pick s 3 #'s

24 31 34 16 18 20
24 31 34 26 28 29
24 31 34 30 32 33
24 31 34 12 35 36
24 31 34 16 26 37
24 31 34 18 28 37
24 31 34 20 29 30
24 31 34 20 32 35
24 31 34 29 33 36
24 31 34 12 16 28
24 31 34 12 18 26
24 31 34 30 35 37
24 31 34 32 36 37
24 31 34 20 26 33
24 31 34 16 18 35
24 31 34 28 30 36
24 31 34 12 29 32
24 31 34 28 33 35
24 31 34 16 30 36
24 31 34 20 29 37
24 31 34 18 26 32
24 31 34 12 18 33
24 31 34 12 26 30
24 31 34 22 19 38
 

hot4

Member
savagegoose said:
this will cost me $13.20 , its an all or nothing bash

ok the search of draw history said the same 3 numbers came up together 11
times out of last 744 draws, so I used them

I used cover master to make a 3if7 out of 13, the game has a bonus ball.

I think I'll mark my tickets and get off to the shops sometime this week.
btw wheel came up with 23 combos but u need to enter even numbers here so I
just guessed last pick s 3 #'s

24 31 34 16 18 20
24 31 34 26 28 29
24 31 34 30 32 33
24 31 34 12 35 36
24 31 34 16 26 37
24 31 34 18 28 37
24 31 34 20 29 30
24 31 34 20 32 35
24 31 34 29 33 36
24 31 34 12 16 28
24 31 34 12 18 26
24 31 34 30 35 37
24 31 34 32 36 37
24 31 34 20 26 33
24 31 34 16 18 35
24 31 34 28 30 36
24 31 34 12 29 32
24 31 34 28 33 35
24 31 34 16 30 36
24 31 34 20 29 37
24 31 34 18 26 32
24 31 34 12 18 33
24 31 34 12 26 30
24 31 34 22 19 38
How many numbers do you want to hit from the 13 numbers set? Thinking you'll hit 3 in 24 31 34, you can make in CM a wheel 13,3,2if3=13 sets that is cheaper and guarantees to you 5 numbers if you hit 3 in the bankers and 3 in the 13.

Isn't it?
 

savagegoose

Member
ehh its a 3 if 7 as i get a bonus ball as well.

i could make a 1 if 7 and wheel all other 35 numbers to just go for a 4 win if i got 3 bankers, but i'm doing an all or nothing.

i entered the numbers now, and saved them on my player card so its easy to replay.

dunno how long im willing to lose $13 a week.

but this is my 1st ever wheel i actually put money on ., well more than my regular money anyhow.,
 
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hot4

Member
savagegoose said:
ehh its a 3 if 7 as i get a bonus ball as well.

i could make a 1 if 7 and wheel all other 35 numbers to just go for a 4 win if i got 3 bankers, but i'm doing an all or nothing.

i entered the numbers now, and saved them on my player card so its easy to replay.

dunno how long im willing to lose $13 a week.

but this is my 1st ever wheel i actually put money on ., well more than my regular money anyhow.,
If you hit 3 numbers in bankers, you have only 3 numbers of the 6 (or 4 numbers counting the bonus number) to hit in the 13 numbers set.

So, it's logic to make a 2if3 wheel if you think the 3 bankers are really worth to play as bankers. If you think that only one number of the bankers will hit (and you don't know which of them), you could make a 2 if 6 (or 5) to combine with the 3 bankers.

In my opinion, it's not logic to bet in the 3 bankers and at the same time, not to bet in them in the same line/wheel :cool:
Good luck!!:wavey:
Frank
 

savagegoose

Member
being the eternal optimist that i am, im hoping for all 3 bankers and to hit 7 out of the 13 to get my 3 if 7.

i already think a whell with all of the 35 other numbers apopearing once woulda been a better wheel.

only cost $6 and would be 12 lines if i get all 3 bankers would be guranteed about $10 win


of course the 3 bankers are a big IF
 

hot4

Member
savagegoose said:
being the eternal optimist that i am, im hoping for all 3 bankers and to hit 7 out of the 13 to get my 3 if 7.

i already think a whell with all of the 35 other numbers apopearing once woulda been a better wheel.

only cost $6 and would be 12 lines if i get all 3 bankers would be guranteed about $10 win


of course the 3 bankers are a big IF

Can you hit "7 out of the 13" and to hit 3 bankers, in your lottery?
 

savagegoose

Member
errm i did in covermaster

pool 13

pick 3

match 3

hits 7

for 23 tickets

well its 6 and bonus ball so i now see what your saying, i cant get 6 or 7 in the 13 as 3 of em will be the bank

:p

guess i am a dumbo ,

sure hope i win something
 
hot4 said:
Can you hit "7 out of the 13" and to hit 3 bankers, in your lottery?
I like that approach...
You won't hit them 3 bankers all the time...But consider this...by playing cold triples, cold triples consecutives as bankers or/and open pairs strategy...you will hit them 3 dead on at one point and I think that it is a very healty strategy to play...Because you might have to hit them only once to break the bank!
But there's more to this...because you will hit 1 or 2 of your bankers more often and when that happens you increases your chances of getting more than 3 a lot of times...
:agree: :agree2:
 

hot4

Member
savagegoose said:
errm i did in covermaster

pool 13

pick 3

match 3

hits 7

for 23 tickets

well its 6 and bonus ball so i now see what your saying, i cant get 6 or 7 in the 13 as 3 of em will be the bank

:p

guess i am a dumbo ,

sure hope i win something
I was trying to understand your aim, making this wheel. Your wheel can win indeed. You are not a dumbo.

However, if you want to cover those draws when you hit zero in your bankers, you can wheel all the non-bankers for the prize you want. That's more profitable, I think. Good luck.
 

hot4

Member
Dennis Bassboss said:
I like that approach...
You won't hit them 3 bankers all the time...But consider this...by playing cold triples, cold triples consecutives as bankers or/and open pairs strategy...you will hit them 3 dead on at one point and I think that it is a very healty strategy to play...Because you might have to hit them only once to break the bank!
But there's more to this...because you will hit 1 or 2 of your bankers more often and when that happens you increases your chances of getting more than 3 a lot of times...
:agree: :agree2:
Sure, but if we want to put all the money in the wheel made with bankers, we are *betting* that they will come next draw (3).

For those draws they will not hit, it's better to put our money in the non-bankers. To predict this is difficult.
 
hot4 said:
Sure, but if we want to put all the money in the wheel made with bankers, we are *betting* that they will come next draw (3).

For those draws they will not hit, it's better to put our money in the non-bankers. To predict this is difficult.
It is not easy for sure...But I do like this approach! :agree: :agree2:
 

savagegoose

Member
well the results are in .

i won nada , zilch , zippo.

i had 1 banker and 2+bonusball from the 13

we need 3+b here to grab any prize.

the numbers drawn where 7 14 24 35 36 38 , bonus 26

best i had was 3 numbers my banker and 2 of the 13, if i had had all 3 bankers and othe rnumbers being the same woulda been a 5 numer win . o well

as i said same 3 ntupplets have come up 11 times over 900 draws so im guessing an avg about 1 in 10 draws


oh and had 9 tickets with 2 numbers a banker and 1 of the other, so if i had had 3 bankers and all else being woulda been 9 x $10 wins


i did trial a hit4 matcxh 3 and thats over 100 tickets

and a hit match 2 only 11 tickets, i canaford to lose $5.50 a week a lot better thant $50

but i'll keep up the $13 while i can and prey to what ever god thats listening
 

hot4

Member
savagegoose said:
well the results are in .

i won nada , zilch , zippo.

i had 1 banker and 2+bonusball from the 13

we need 3+b here to grab any prize.<snip>
1 in 3 numbers is very good. You hit 3 numbers in a line but as you need to hit bonus to have a prize, the way you played guarantees a prize in 286 lines. As it's difficult to hit 3 bankers, you could combine 1 banker and 5 numbers of the 13, three times by this wheel: 13,5,3,5=8;

e.g. Bankers= A,B,C

1- A, 1,2,3,4,5
2- A, 6,7,8,9,10
3- A, 11,12,1,3,9 etc
...
8- A, 1,8,9,12,13

Now for banker B:
9- B, 1,7,10,11,12
10- B,.....
....
16-B, ....

and same thing for banker C.

The good thing this wheel gives is the opportunity for you to change (randomizing) the 13 numbers, while maintaining the prize 3if5. You can play 8 lines with banker B (and C) different from those you combine with banker A. This way you spread the possibility to win a prize if only 3 numbers hit in the 13 numbers.
 

savagegoose

Member
yeah this is the 1st wheel i actually put my money on. ive made so many and tested so many my head spins.

i'll stick with the same one for a few weeks, maybe run it for 10 and hope toi hit the biggie. but if not i'll save it for when the game jackpots 10 weeks in a row and theres a nice pool to win.

but while i got spare cash to blow on it I will
 

savagegoose

Member
yeah i understand the idea there 1 banker also in a line.

im just gonna run this whell a little longer, see how things turn up. they turned up pretty bad this weeek

1 out 3 bankers and 2 outa 13 wheeled

l gave me

2 x3 hits

8x2 hits

and everything else with 1

as always i need a little luck 2 x bankers and a reasoinable hit in the 13 would be sweet,

i guess the more bankers i hit the less of ther 13 im gonna get
 

savagegoose

Member
omg what a terrible result, no bankers

numbers where 14 x 1 hit and
1 x 3 hit,

draw was
14 22 23 30 32 33 bb 28

o well always next week
 

savagegoose

Member
well i played it 5 times and am already bored with losing money, think i'l sit on this one till the jackpot mounts to something woirth really winning, although my money back would be a good start.

also i made a different version with a larger spread of non banking numbers.

now i get to choose what one to play.

also i find now ive made and played the thing, i feel like always putting the thing on incase it does win when im not playing the wheel.

this is bad, i spose easiest way to fix that is not check the numbers if i dont play it.
 

savagegoose

Member
this wheell is dead

i officially killed this wheel off.

i loked at my past history file in a new way, what ive been told is posistional filters. and about half this wheel would be filtered out with the pos filter rules, so i deleted it .


thasts not to say the 3 banker and 3 if 4 / x is a dead concept, but it will need to fit this possistional filter a bit better.

heres the post of the pos filter .

http://lotto649.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2733
 
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