Fingerprinting a draw

peter

Member
Does anyone here fingerprint there draws.?
What I mean is do you identify a draw with a code.
A draw can be fingerprinted by decade, or by odd/ even, or by both.
For example last draw 5,13,15,20,24,42,41 would have a decade fingerprint of 1,2,2,3,3,5,5 or you could fingerprint by odd'even, as o,o,o,e,e,e,o, or combine the two would be,o1,o2,o2,e3,e3,e5,o5. put these fingerprints in one cell the cell after your bonus number. Dennis this would be a new method to come up with announcers for decades and odd/ even, very few fingerprints are alike.
As an exercise, do a fingerprint, using decades for the last ten draws, you'll see what I mean.
Beaker ,you will especially like this tool, since you are a decades kinda guy. more later, I'm out tonight.
 

Beaker

Member
I did this Peter - in colour. Interesting.

....and Dennis, no you never have mentioned that and that is another gem. :clown:

Thanks for that one :agree2:
 

Rebeckah

Member
oh, Peter, I was just compiling a list of DataBases {or fingerprints)to make. I have done this previously by decades: 012345 and decade positions: 11112, 123, 222, etc., FDs & jackpot amounts {~but that's not really a *fingerprint*, just a filtered DB?). Which led me into using that *O* chart on GHs sw. ;)

My mind boggels at how many databases we could make. Wanna compile a list? And each item on the list can become a seperate database for: announcing, draw order/sorted, Bonus ball included, or not. :eek: Humongeous amount of work, isn't it? :dizzy: :) Thank God for software!

For pick5/6/7:
decades 012345
decade positions 1122,111111, 123, 24, etc
final digits
deltas
jackpot amounts
Odd/Even
o/o/e/e/o/o
low/high
sum roots
adjacent
repeats
longshots
hot/warm/cold/comatose

(are these more of a filtered DB?}
ball sets
draw dates
day of the week
drawn in a certain month
astrological months
seasons, by equinoxes, etc.

& actually Peter, I found some helpful trends in the fingerprints. Like with decades 70% of the time my game would hit a 0 decade. That's a great stat to bet! I think you just have to go back far enough in order to capture the trends. i.e.: I had almost 300 draws for FD sequences, {113756 etc.) and it had just started getting some repeats. {not enough history yet) But for decade sequences 300 games was enough to show me big trends.

PS: In decades I tracked: sequence, position, total hits, hit with totals, double/triple/quad decs hit with. I was also working on a decade DB/chart of what decade hit most frequently with what other decade, as well as what followed it. (Decade Announcers}

In my FD DB I tracked the: sequence{111111, 11112, 1122, 123, etc.), repeat/new ratio, what hits with what, double & triple hits, FD announcing. All of which was a ton of work to do by hand.

& I really like your o/o/e/o/e/e concept. I hadn't thought of that one B4! :) thanks!

all comments welcome & please add to our list! :lol: :agree:
 

charles2

Member
Odd Even FINGERPRINTING Canada 649 checked all draws upto and including April 16 2003,

0=Odd 1=Even


Hit?
x's

53 = 010010
51 = 010100
48 = 011010
47 = 011110
44 = 100110
43 = 001010
41 = 001011
40 = 000101
38 = 000100
38 = 011101
38 = 110110
37 = 001101
37 = 001110
37 = 010101
37 = 011000
37 = 100100
37 = 101011
36 = 010000
36 = 101110
34 = 001100
33 = 001000
33 = 010011
33 = 010111
33 = 100000
33 = 101010
33 = 110111
32 = 000010
32 = 000110
32 = 011100
32 = 111000
32 = 111010***** sum of 1167 from here to top
30 = 010110
30 = 011001
30 = 101001***** sum of 780 from here to btm
30 = 101101
30 = 110100
29 = 000111
29 = 011011
29 = 100101
29 = 101000
29 = 111101
28 = 100010
28 = 111011
27 = 000001
27 = 110010
27 = 111100
26 = 000011
25 = 100001
25 = 101100
25 = 110000
25 = 110101
25 = 111001
25 = 111110
24 = 001001
24 = 100011
24 = 101111
23 = 110011
22 = 100111
21 = 001111
21 = 010001
19 = 011111
19 = 110001
18 = 000000
17 = 111111
 

Beaker

Member
charles2 said:
Odd Even FINGERPRINTING Canada 649 checked all draws upto and including April 16 2003,

0=Odd 1=Even


Hit?
x's

53 = 010010
51 = 010100
48 = 011010
47 = 011110
44 = 100110
43 = 001010
41 = 001011
40 = 000101
38 = 000100
38 = 011101
38 = 110110
37 = 001101
37 = 001110
37 = 010101
37 = 011000
37 = 100100
37 = 101011
36 = 010000
36 = 101110
34 = 001100
33 = 001000
33 = 010011
33 = 010111
33 = 100000
33 = 101010
33 = 110111
32 = 000010
32 = 000110
32 = 011100
32 = 111000
32 = 111010***** sum of 1167 from here to top
30 = 010110
30 = 011001
30 = 101001***** sum of 780 from here to btm
30 = 101101
30 = 110100
29 = 000111
29 = 011011
29 = 100101
29 = 101000
29 = 111101
28 = 100010
28 = 111011
27 = 000001
27 = 110010
27 = 111100
26 = 000011
25 = 100001
25 = 101100
25 = 110000
25 = 110101
25 = 111001
25 = 111110
24 = 001001
24 = 100011
24 = 101111
23 = 110011
22 = 100111
21 = 001111
21 = 010001
19 = 011111
19 = 110001
18 = 000000
17 = 111111
This would be valuable for all the positional/filter players :agree:
 

peter

Member
I understand a "fingerprint" to be a "unique" signature of that one specific draw. Using a thought from Lin Shen, you could also finger print each draw using the "up","down","even", scenario.
I tried this experiment (using Can649) last ten draws.
looks like this:
dr2004,15,21,31,36,44,49,05.(2344551)(oooeeoo)
dr2005,08,10,15,16,31,46,25.(1222453)(eeoeoeo)(ddddddu)
dr2006,05,07,09,25,28,48,27.(1113353)(ooooeeo)(ddduduu)
dr2007,08,18,21,26,42,48,31.(1233554)(eeoeeeo)(uuuuueu)
dr2008,04,12,40,43,48,49,27.(1255553)(eeeoeoo)(dduuuud)
dr2009,06,09,14,29,34,45,49.(1123553)(eoeoeoo)(udddddu)
dr2010,03,17,20,30,32,35,06.(1234441)(ooeeeoe)(duuuddd)
dr2011,06,07,19,29,43,47,24.(1123553)(eoooooe)(uddduuu)
dr2012,05,12,31,35,37,46,09.(1244451)(oeoooeo)(duuuddd)
dr2013,04,20,28,33,43,48,08.(1334551)(eeeooee)(dudduud)
dr2014,05,13,15,20,24,42,41.(1223355)(oooeeeo)(udddddu)

Fingerprinting, is a unique, and different way of looking at trends.
Note to Dennis, I think by fingerprinting all of the Can 649 draws, and then sorting them, you can expand on announcers.
P.S. the first set of brackets, are the numbers expressed as "decades"
The second set of brackets, are the numbers , expressed as odd/even.
And the third set of brackets, are the numbers, expressed as to whether or not the ballnumber in that position from the previous draw was either, up, down, or even ( stayed the same).
I hope others look, or have looked at this, and are able to expand on it.P.S. Dennis, feel free to use French letters for odd/even/up/down :lol:
 
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Beaker said:
I did this Peter - in colour. Interesting.

....and Dennis, no you never have mentioned that and that is another gem. :clown:

Thanks for that one :agree2:
Thanks Beaker ...And yes I have been holding that one inside the magic drawer for a while now... :agree:
 

gsobier

Member
Peter:

There is another thing you might want to track, "Zero as in 10, 20, 30, and 40" Would Odd, Even, and Zero work better?

Regards,
George:)

peter said:
I understand a "fingerprint" to be a "unique" signature of that one specific draw. Using a thought from Lin Shen, you could also finger print each draw using the "up","down","even", scenario.
I tried this experiment (using Can649) last ten draws.
looks like this:
dr2004,15,21,31,36,44,49,05.(2344551)(oooeeoo)
dr2005,08,10,15,16,31,46,25.(1222453)(eeoeoeo)(ddddddu)
dr2006,05,07,09,25,28,48,27.(1113353)(ooooeeo)(ddduduu)
dr2007,08,18,21,26,42,48,31.(1233554)(eeoeeeo)(uuuuueu)
dr2008,04,12,40,43,48,49,27.(1255553)(eeeoeoo)(dduuuud)
dr2009,06,09,14,29,34,45,49.(1123553)(eoeoeoo)(udddddu)
dr2010,03,17,20,30,32,35,06.(1234441)(ooeeeoe)(duuuddd)
dr2011,06,07,19,29,43,47,24.(1123553)(eoooooe)(uddduuu)
dr2012,05,12,31,35,37,46,09.(1244451)(oeoooeo)(duuuddd)
dr2013,04,20,28,33,43,48,08.(1334551)(eeeooee)(dudduud)
dr2014,05,13,15,20,24,42,41.(1223355)(oooeeeo)(udddddu)

Fingerprinting, is a unique, and different way of looking at trends.
Note to Dennis, I think by fingerprinting all of the Can 649 draws, and then sorting them, you can expand on announcers.
P.S. the first set of brackets, are the numbers expressed as "decades"
The second set of brackets, are the numbers , expressed as odd/even.
And the third set of brackets, are the numbers, expressed as to whether or not the ballnumber in that position from the previous draw was either, up, down, or even ( stayed the same).
I hope others look, or have looked at this, and are able to expand on it.P.S. Dennis, feel free to use French letters for odd/even/up/down :lol:
 

peter

Member
gsobier said:
Peter:

There is another thing you might want to track, "Zero as in 10, 20, 30, and 40" Would Odd, Even, and Zero work better?

Regards,
George:)
George, unless I missed something, re zeros, I already track all the LD's.
 

gsobier

Member
Zeros

Peter:

Let me try again...
dr2013,04,20,28,33,43,48,08.(1334551)(eeeooee)(dudduud)

could look like this...
dr2013,04,20,28,33,43,48,08.(1334551)(eezooee)(dudduud)

I will make the sorted order different... ...could be good or bad, depending on what you are looking for:eek:.

Regards,
George:)

peter said:
George, unless I missed something, re zeros, I already track all the LD's.
 

peter

Member
Dennis I really think this finger printing has some merit. Take the last draw for example, by the decades 1223355, instead of looking at 7 numbers, if we sort this finger print to see if others match it, we can see what happened next, last time this finger print occurred.
 

rajeev28

Member
Was Einstein around when Lotto was Invented. I am sure he would have...............

Vow, you guys know so much. Great
 

Beaker

Member
peter said:
Dennis I really think this finger printing has some merit. Take the last draw for example, by the decades 1223355, instead of looking at 7 numbers, if we sort this finger print to see if others match it, we can see what happened next, last time this finger print occurred.
When I did this in colour, it looked like mountain ranges. :eek:

Expect 3 high numbers, 2 30's 1 40 or 1 30, 2 40's.

... for May 14th

should put this in the discussion thread but I'm lurking there

I combined the 10's with 20's and 30's with 40's in colour. Seriously looks like waves. :eek:
 

Beaker

Member
peter said:
Dennis I really think this finger printing has some merit. Take the last draw for example, by the decades 1223355, instead of looking at 7 numbers, if we sort this finger print to see if others match it, we can see what happened next, last time this finger print occurred.
Tell you what Peter, You will see a HIGH draw within 2 after this condition appears. :agree:
 

gsobier

Member
Sorting

Beaker and Peter:

I sorted the finger prints... ...want to see the results?

Regards,
George:)

Beaker said:
When I did this in colour, it looked like mountain ranges. :eek:

Expect 3 high numbers, 2 30's 1 40 or 1 30, 2 40's.

... for May 14th

should put this in the discussion thread but I'm lurking there

I combined the 10's with 20's and 30's with 40's in colour. Seriously looks like waves. :eek:
 

gsobier

Member
Peter:

The whole thing would be too big to post here... ...I could give you a report of ones which match the last draw (2014) and the following one from the decades.

Regards,
George:)

peter said:
Yes George , I would. Thank-you.:agree2:
 

Beaker

Member
gsobier said:
Peter:

The whole thing would be too big to post here... ...I could give you a report of ones which match the last draw (2014) and the following one from the decades.

Regards,
George:)
George I'd post that 2014 list in the discussion thread. :agree:
 
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