Do you research and play a system?
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Lazy Bum,
Looks to me like you are doing research towards a business idea of some sort. Nothing wrong with that, I guess. But nobody likes to be taken advantage of, like, "lets see what the suckers are up to and fleece them", or some such. (Ok, maybe that's too cynical and you are more sincere. I should give you the benefit.)
Overall, my 2 cents, it's not a very good idea. However, I'm a boomer. I don't know, the 20-somethings might be smarter in some ways, but they may be less able to think for themselves. (?).
So, I can't speak for all lottery players. But, my impression is that the systems oriented players are pretty individualistic, even egotistic, for the most part, and would not be a good group to try to get to agree on which system works best.
There are adherents to various schools of thought, some of which have some good ideas in them. But the most successful systems players are those who are developing their own, labour intensive systems. In a few cases these might be adopted by syndicates type operations but this is rare. There was one guy, a professional experienced programmer it seemed, who indicated that he had been operating a syndicate of people with success to a degree (but he'd not been able to win the JP, to date.) He seemed to be the exception. I personally found it quite amazing that if his claims were true and not overstated that he would be able to do this with any consistency and he was no lazy bum or dummy. Looked like he'd worked away at it for a very long time to get it to any success rate.
Trying to do what you appear to have in mind is naive. My hunch is the lottery corp goes to considerable pains - whether it is outright rigging (sometimes, maybe --) or just by making sure that lotteries are really random and very difficult to predict, however they do this. They don't want system players winning consistently as indication of their being vulnerable. (Not good for them.) (That programmer/syndicate guy the exception(??)
The Lottery corp knows that the main appeal of the lottery is the big dream, and there can only be so many winners. Whether it's by increasing prices, or having to resort to increasing number of balls, they must make sure the jackpots are fairly high. The players involved with you would have to really believe in you
and this would be unusual. Plus chances of it working over time would be unlikely,
but maybe you don't care?...
I would suggest go into Financial Planning, Real Estate or Life Insurance, something less hokey.
And as for the question, am I a so-called "systems player"? Yes and no. Yes, I track stats, histories and odds, to a degree and use these, but I also use or try to use intuition, which is outside the boundaries of anything that could be called "systems", for sure. And I'm not alone. I think the majority of "systems" players use either intuition or the "luck factor" as part of how they make their number selection choices. (But again, I can't speak for all.) But anyway, how would you go about getting a group to agree, given these ways of also working at choosing numbers? This board, so far, has been an attempt at using the best of both worlds toward working at the problem.
Looks to me like you are doing research towards a business idea of some sort. Nothing wrong with that, I guess. But nobody likes to be taken advantage of, like, "lets see what the suckers are up to and fleece them", or some such. (Ok, maybe that's too cynical and you are more sincere. I should give you the benefit.)
Overall, my 2 cents, it's not a very good idea. However, I'm a boomer. I don't know, the 20-somethings might be smarter in some ways, but they may be less able to think for themselves. (?).
So, I can't speak for all lottery players. But, my impression is that the systems oriented players are pretty individualistic, even egotistic, for the most part, and would not be a good group to try to get to agree on which system works best.
There are adherents to various schools of thought, some of which have some good ideas in them. But the most successful systems players are those who are developing their own, labour intensive systems. In a few cases these might be adopted by syndicates type operations but this is rare. There was one guy, a professional experienced programmer it seemed, who indicated that he had been operating a syndicate of people with success to a degree (but he'd not been able to win the JP, to date.) He seemed to be the exception. I personally found it quite amazing that if his claims were true and not overstated that he would be able to do this with any consistency and he was no lazy bum or dummy. Looked like he'd worked away at it for a very long time to get it to any success rate.
Trying to do what you appear to have in mind is naive. My hunch is the lottery corp goes to considerable pains - whether it is outright rigging (sometimes, maybe --) or just by making sure that lotteries are really random and very difficult to predict, however they do this. They don't want system players winning consistently as indication of their being vulnerable. (Not good for them.) (That programmer/syndicate guy the exception(??)
The Lottery corp knows that the main appeal of the lottery is the big dream, and there can only be so many winners. Whether it's by increasing prices, or having to resort to increasing number of balls, they must make sure the jackpots are fairly high. The players involved with you would have to really believe in you
and this would be unusual. Plus chances of it working over time would be unlikely, but maybe you don't care?...
I would suggest go into Financial Planning, Real Estate or Life Insurance, something less hokey.
And as for the question, am I a so-called "systems player"? Yes and no. Yes, I track stats, histories and odds, to a degree and use these, but I also use or try to use intuition, which is outside the boundaries of anything that could be called "systems", for sure. And I'm not alone. I think the majority of "systems" players use either intuition or the "luck factor" as part of how they make their number selection choices. (But again, I can't speak for all.) But anyway, how would you go about getting a group to agree, given these ways of also working at choosing numbers? This board, so far, has been an attempt at using the best of both worlds toward working at the problem.
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Mirage,
I totally agree with everything you've stated. My aim is quite innocent. I, like everyone else, have a desire to "beat the system".
The OLGC succeeds and thrives on the premise that everyone is independent and greedy, and looking to maximize their own returns. I have played with pool players who just don't understand the "team concept", and prefer to argue over winnings not even won.
By many people working together in concert, we can greatly increase our odds. No system is perfect however, and I am vary of (A) Corporation who's aim is profit maximization...B) The possibility of said corporation controlling the outcomes through technology.
I like gathering and monitoring statistics, posting polls, etc. to gauge what others are thinking along with their playing habits.
By doing this, I hope to find which methods are most popular and find some way to bring everyone together, with their respective systems intact to increase all our odds.
I totally agree with everything you've stated. My aim is quite innocent. I, like everyone else, have a desire to "beat the system".
The OLGC succeeds and thrives on the premise that everyone is independent and greedy, and looking to maximize their own returns. I have played with pool players who just don't understand the "team concept", and prefer to argue over winnings not even won.
By many people working together in concert, we can greatly increase our odds. No system is perfect however, and I am vary of (A) Corporation who's aim is profit maximization...B) The possibility of said corporation controlling the outcomes through technology.
I like gathering and monitoring statistics, posting polls, etc. to gauge what others are thinking along with their playing habits.
By doing this, I hope to find which methods are most popular and find some way to bring everyone together, with their respective systems intact to increase all our odds.