Any software, code or algorithm ?????

tomtom

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Is there any software, code or algorithm that may lend a hand in reducing number of lines ? I’m thinking about reducing number of lines with some certain guaranties…For example, 100 lines to 20 or 30 with a guarantee of a 4hit if 5 were in the beginning 100 lines…Any hint, link or something regarding this matter?
 

mirage

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tomtom said:
Is there any software, code or algorithm that may lend a hand in reducing number of lines ? I’m thinking about reducing number of lines with some certain guaranties…For example, 100 lines to 20 or 30 with a guarantee of a 4hit if 5 were in the beginning 100 lines…Any hint, link or something regarding this matter?

There's plenty of hints and suggestions all over this board. You just have to open your eyes.
 

Beaker

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Re: Re: Re: Any software, code or algorithm ?????

tomtom said:
For example?
try Lotwin - it's free and will do what you want.

If you want to do it yourself, there are odd/even, LD's, decades, consectives,announcers, primes, unit sums, etc etc on and on
 

hot4

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Lotwin has a trial (evaluation) version but the registered one costs $ :D

As Beaker told you, it gets what you want: to filter a given prize from a set having 6 numbers.
 

tomtom

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Any software, code or algorithm ?????

Unfortunately, lotwin requires some in my opinion heavy registrations for a lite version….

It is wery interesting that many of the old DOS programs are able to make 170lines or such with 3if 6 guaranties out of 49 numbers. It’s a huge work to come down from 14 millions to 170 lines with a certain guaranty. Therefore, I really wonder why is so out of the ordinary a possibility to input 170 particular lines with a guaranty 3 if 6 out of 49 numbers to get some 20 – 30 lines with again some specific guaranty..
 

Beaker

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Any software, code or algorithm ?????

tomtom said:
Unfortunately, lotwin requires some in my opinion heavy registrations for a lite version….

It is wery interesting that many of the old DOS programs are able to make 170lines or such with 3if 6 guaranties out of 49 numbers. It’s a huge work to come down from 14 millions to 170 lines with a certain guaranty. Therefore, I really wonder why is so out of the ordinary a possibility to input 170 particular lines with a guaranty 3 if 6 out of 49 numbers to get some 20 – 30 lines with again some specific guaranty..
lotwin lite is free. and you can input line sets into that SW and reduce with every imaginable filter you want :notme:

God luck
 

hot4

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Any software, code or algorithm ?????

tomtom said:
Unfortunately, lotwin requires some in my opinion heavy registrations for a lite version….

It is wery interesting that many of the old DOS programs are able to make 170lines or such with 3if 6 guaranties out of 49 numbers. It’s a huge work to come down from 14 millions to 170 lines with a certain guaranty. Therefore, I really wonder why is so out of the ordinary a possibility to input 170 particular lines with a guaranty 3 if 6 out of 49 numbers to get some 20 – 30 lines with again some specific guaranty..

I see. If you want to get for example 3 hits in a line of 170, it's supposed that one line of the 170 has 6 numbers!! Otherwise there's no guarantee that you'll get 3 hits. And that makes a problem to you: why to want 3hits if I can get 6 with +- 140 lines more?
Lotwin will satisfy you if you have a lot of lines for your budget (1000-10000) or you want to guarantee a 5if6 existing in +- 100-200 lines. Post here your set of lines and, perhaps someone can get a very good reduction using lotwin.

If you want to use 20 lines without any predictive/forecasting characteristic you can make a wheel in CoverMaster that gives you 20 lines with a very good covering.
 

hot4

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Thornc,

tomtom wants a software that chooses a small amount of lines from a wheel that guarantees a ?if6 prize.

So, after wheeling for example 49 numbers, he gets +- 200 lines that guarantee 3if6. Then he wants a software that, from the +- 200, picks a small amount (+-20) that guarantees to him 3 or 4 hits if one of the 200 has 6 hits!

Do you think there's a portuguese software making this? The software you pointed seems to me not making such work, but I'd be glad if you tell me yes. :wavey:
 

tomtom

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thornc said:
This does something like you want... to bad its n Portugueese!

Google translation seem to be help a bit, check it here!
Have fun!


THNX…I’m really becoming interested in how deeply this subject is out of sight. Searching the net, you may find all kind of free or commercial lotto software, or a lot of different free codes and algorithms… But, almost nothing about possible extensive reductions of lines where the input are your certain combinations…Well, it seems that a lot of people have limitless playing budgets and not to many are concerned about saving some money for the rainy lottery days……

:goodluck:
 

tomtom

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hot4 said:
Thornc,

tomtom wants a software that chooses a small amount of lines from a wheel that guarantees a ?if6 prize.

So, after wheeling for example 49 numbers, he gets +- 200 lines that guarantee 3if6. Then he wants a software that, from the +- 200, picks a small amount (+-20) that guarantees to him 3 or 4 hits if one of the 200 has 6 hits!

Do you think there's a portuguese software making this? The software you pointed seems to me not making such work, but I'd be glad if you tell me yes. :wavey:

Actually, I was thinking about any certain 200 (or even10000) starting lines…. It seems fair enough to have at least a few 3’s or a 4 hit, if from any reason you can’t play all 200 (or 10000) lines, but somehow a 6 or 5 hit was in the 200(or10000) initial ones…


BTW, Portuguese guys here in Canada made some decent atmosphere during the Euro soccer championship …They ended second, but also the second place is sometime reputable, too…
 
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hot4

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tomtom said:
Actually, I was thinking about any certain 200 (or even10000) starting lines…. It seems fair enough to have at least a few 3’s or a 4 hit, if from any reason you can’t play all 200 (or 10000) lines, but somehow a 6 or 5 hit was in the 200(or10000) initial ones…


BTW, Portuguese guys here in Canada made some decent atmosphere during the Euro soccer championship …They ended second, but also the second place is sometime reputable, too…
Post your initial lines, and perhaps someone can get a wheel guaranting you 4 numbers if_one_line_of_the_initial_has_6hits.
Glad to know that portuguese people in Canada made decent party, while Portugal winned the second place (sometimes considered the worst!) :agree2:
 

tomtom

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hot4 said:
Post your initial lines, and perhaps someone can get a wheel guaranting you 4 numbers if_one_line_of_the_initial_has_6hits.
Glad to know that portuguese people in Canada made decent party, while Portugal winned the second place (sometimes considered the worst!) :agree2:

Well, I don’t believe that it’s promising to do that way. As I said, I am looking for any software, code or algorithm that may help…

Regarding the soccer, if somebody has any potential to reach the second or third prize out of many possible, also has the potential to reach the first in future…
 

tomtom

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Nick Koutras said:
Beaker,

I follow this thread by curiosity only.
Whatever is said here is done by LottoStatisticsXL.

As for the low draws, do generate the
"Trivial Report" with Duration= the total draws of the database.

Go to the bottom of the report and see the effect of the first Draws on the output.

The only significant point of this thread
will be the ability to generate the multitude
of combinations that a range of Skips permits
and the ability to map them in such a way
that a wheeling system can guarantee smaller wins
(like a 3-win or 4-win) with the minimum possible number of combinations.

I just found this at the other tread regarding skips. This is exactly what I was thinking about when talking about lines...Hope that Nick might help with a little code or algorithm that shrinks a bit any number of lines.. or point to some link…
 
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tomtom said:
I just found this at the other tread regarding skips. This is exactly what I was thinking about when talking about lines...Hope that Nick might help with a little code or algorithm that shrinks a bit any number of lines.. or point to some link…

Hi tomtom,

To reduce/filter any lotto game is like to
make assumtions that the target draw will have,
like 2-4 Even
2-4 Small numbers
... or any other

So the first step shall be to define your
hypotheses.

The best way to do that will be on a Spreadsheet

Then we can generate all the lines and allow only the ones that comply with these assumtions.

If it is that what you are looking for
then that can be done easily.
I also think that Snides program does exactly that. See the proper thread for details.

So indicate the kind of Filters you wish to apply and I can provide you with the proper code.
 

tomtom

Member
Nick Koutras said:
Hi tomtom,

To reduce/filter any lotto game is like to
make assumtions that the target draw will have,
like 2-4 Even
2-4 Small numbers
... or any other

So the first step shall be to define your
hypotheses.

The best way to do that will be on a Spreadsheet

Then we can generate all the lines and allow only the ones that comply with these assumtions.

If it is that what you are looking for
then that can be done easily.
I also think that Snides program does exactly that. See the proper thread for details.

So indicate the kind of Filters you wish to apply and I can provide you with the proper code.

Well, I was thinking about 2-4 small numbers from exactly three decades that make a sure 3 or 4 hit in a minimum needed number of lines.
 

tomtom

Member
tomtom said:
Well, I was thinking about 2-4 small numbers from exactly three decades that make a sure 3 or 4 hit in a minimum needed number of lines.

Of course, I was thinking about a sure 3 or 4 hit if all 6 numbers were from 2-4 small and exact (or any) 3 decades…
 

tomtom

Member
Wow, found some sequencing methods…but it seems that it will resulted in too many 1’, 2’, 3’ and 48’,49’… the old good DOS-ie…
 

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